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This would have naturally had a real detrimental affect on the health of the hypochondriacs amongst us whose
irrational fears would have been magnified and gone into overdrive as a result of the pandemic.[/URL]
Do you count yourself among this group, then?

Realistically the amount of hypocondriacs affected by this is going to be proportionally very small. Most people will just get on with life except with better hygenic (more hand washing and cleansing) and social distancing (not shaking everyones hand and kissing strangers) habits than previously.

This pandemic has sucked for many people, especially if you lost your job or a loved one, but in the grand scheme of things I think its effects been pretty mild, especially in countries like this one.
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This would have naturally had a real detrimental affect on the health of the hypochondriacs amongst us whose
irrational fears would have been magnified and gone into overdrive as a result of the pandemic.
I do think the thread is justified despite some people having a problem with yet another reminder of the pandemics.

I think the diverse reaction here mirrors the different situations that people find themselves in. There is no way I could say that anything is better thanks to Covid and people I know, probably 99%, will concur. This difference itself will drive people out of the mental stability: while some sat at home on homeoffice, didn't risk losing their jobs nor getting infected, for too many people I know myself included, the risk was and still is really high.

I am glad to see people ranting about how great their life is, it's positive.

But I do not want to forget that CV impacts and even more will impact mental wellbeing of a big portion of the population, even if it's not talked about much because we only got used to quantifying the infection/beds/deaths..or days before the vax comes.

I'd say the problem is a lot bigger than phobias and fears over imagined danger. There is real impact, tough situations and over quite a long period of time. The difference in CV situation splits the society between those who understand the impact beyond themselves and those who only live and judge through their own personal experience.
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Am still suffering the phobia of running out of TP.
Those enduring months of empty shelves have left me scared shitless.
...so you don't even need TP. Very good.

I find I get anxious in crowded areas. But I'm sure it will pass.
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...so you don't even need TP. Very good.

I find I get anxious in crowded areas. But I'm sure it will pass.
maybe he has a bidet

I won't have aftershocks from this but I can't wait for it to be over by now. It was entirely bearable until the beginning of this year though, at least for me.
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...so you don't even need TP. Very good.

I find I get anxious in crowded areas. But I'm sure it will pass.
I never developed anxiousness in crowded places, because I am there every day. But seeing somebody obviously ill close to me makes me cautious, which in the time of hayfever..ton of big sneezing and coughing and eye rubbing on the trains these days, many people are affected.

I worry about young people, big impact on them and it is not much talked about.

Isolation, either of a family member to worry about or people isolating themselves - all that induces stress. There are people who already had to count only on their own support prior CV so can imagine that falling sick with an uknown virus can stress them. I wouldn't shrug off covid impact on mental health only as hypochondria or phobias mentioned in the opening post. Long term stress will affect our mental health in a bunch of ways, even if we can't see it now. The society will need a boost, imho.
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Re: Coronavirus Phobias the aftershocks on peoples mental health

What I can't figure out is why are there some who still drive around alone in their cars wearing masks?
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What I can't figure out is why are there some who still drive around alone in their cars wearing masks?
Maybe there are perks of mask wearing, that we do not know about.
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What I can't figure out is why are there some who still drive around alone in their cars wearing masks?
Because when you are going from job to job as an uber driver or similar you often likely just find it easier to keep it on all the time and then forget you are wearing it.

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My earworms have gotten worse. Or maybe I can hear them better now that the ski heli no longer buzzes the house every hour looking for hapless tourists. The hills are alive...
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Re: Coronavirus Phobias the aftershocks on peoples mental health

My daughter has taken to wearing a mask outside. She'll wear it in the car if the windows are open.

It cuts down on hay-fever symptoms.
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It cuts down on hay-fever symptoms.
Seeing the thick layer of pollen on our cars, I can relate.
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Old 19.04.2021, 10:52
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But I do not want to forget that CV impacts and even more will impact mental wellbeing of a big portion of the population, even if it's not talked about much because we only got used to quantifying the infection/beds/deaths..or days before the vax comes.

I'd say the problem is a lot bigger than phobias and fears over imagined danger. There is real impact, tough situations and over quite a long period of time. The difference in CV situation splits the society between those who understand the impact beyond themselves and those who only live and judge through their own personal experience.
Problems in life did not begin with the covid pandemic. If problems cannot be overcome by oneself, there's counseling or other kind of support. It's the job of mental health professionals.
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...I find I get anxious in crowded areas. But I'm sure it will pass.
I hated crowds before covid, so I guess it comes natural to me to stay away from them.

I like the thought re hey-fever symptoms. I guess I scare my neighbours to death every morning, sneezing like a maniac after opening the windows.

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What I can't figure out is why are there some who still drive around alone in their cars wearing masks?
Me neither.
But one day I did notice that I should not bin my mask in a plastic bag before I reach home as if I have an accident, I will need it again. (Not that I had one in decades).
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Maybe a positive outcome will be more attention to mental health. One can hope....
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Problems in life did not begin with the covid pandemic. If problems cannot be overcome by oneself, there's counseling or other kind of support. It's the job of mental health professionals.
Nobody questions that. Maybe we will see every 2nd person anxiety stricken either because of potentially crappy disease or loss of family or proper grieving not possible or loss of job and stability or demands that new normal imposes and people have troubles adjusting to. Insurance models will change I think. The topic of the CV impacting mental health is and will be even more important. Vaccines and anxiolitics might be our new toothpaste and TP. I am glad John was brave to post, though he was posting about hypochondriacs or phobics. I am just being realistic, based on the feedback I get from people around.

I realize that I am posting this to a group of expats, nomads or adventurers, who might be better at adjustment than your regular folk.

Mass situations like this do impact, long term. I noticed that under-insured and over-insured societies aren't happy. And it takes a while to get that equilibrium, if that even exists.
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Nobody questions that. Maybe we will see every 2nd person anxiety stricken either because of potentially crappy disease or loss of family or proper grieving not possible or loss of job and stability or demands that new normal imposes and people have troubles adjusting to.
Until a month ago there was a wave of people asking around on EF how to work for Swiss company from other countries under the new normal of working from home. I'm resisting to go full cynic on this, but it's hard. I'll just leave at not everyone's suffering.

And this is the point, at any time there's happiness and suffering. I live in an apartment building. It's well within the possibility that while we have a happy day there's someone mourning a loved one a floor above. So, a boundary needs to be drawn. If the individual circle is too small, there's a reason to suffer every hour of the day. If worrying too much, burnout eventually comes and no one wins, neither the individual nor the society. If the individual circle is too large...one becomes a psychopath, society loses.

So, some balance is needed and the first goal is helping oneself to avoid being a burden to others. There will be a time when that will be unavoidable, but not today. As crazy wish, I'd like that the consequences of burnout were more visible.
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Am still suffering the phobia of running out of TP.
Those enduring months of empty shelves have left me scared shitless.
Hehe. This thread reminded me of a joke a friend has sent me recently (I don't know if humour is translatable but I'll try)

"WHO warns us that only those who were normal before will return to normal. Let's be clear, it's a pandemic, not a miracle!"

Sorry for derailing the thread, I'll let others to make "premonitions" about our future mental health. I can't and don't want to discuss anything related to Covid-19 anymore.
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Until a month ago there was a wave of people asking around on EF how to work for Swiss company from other countries under the new normal of working from home. I'm resisting to go full cynic on this, but it's hard. I'll just leave at not everyone's suffering.

And this is the point, at any time there's happiness and suffering. I live in an apartment building. It's well within the possibility that while we have a happy day there's someone mourning a loved one a floor above. So, a boundary needs to be drawn. If the individual circle is too small, there's a reason to suffer every hour of the day. If worrying too much, burnout eventually comes and no one wins, neither the individual nor the society. If the individual circle is too large...one becomes a psychopath, society loses.

So, some balance is needed and the first goal is helping oneself to avoid being a burden to others. There will be a time when that will be unavoidable, but not today. As crazy wish, I'd like that the consequences of burnout were more visible.
I completely agree and personally for myself see it like you. But I got no illusion about impact of long terms pandemics stress on mental health of a society. Working with people and researching a lot, I know that self-reliance and mental health has its limits, the exhaustion after some time is almost mechanical. The problem with mental health is, that difficulties creep up, the long term aftermath can travel in generations, anxiety is already assumed to be passed on by parents being anxious. I wouldn't relativize this pretty unique situation too much or people will not open up. Suffering is subjective.

In terms of burnout, there was data on efficiency on homeoffice and time abuse, on average people apparently work too long and less efficiently. That itself burns a lot of motivation.

I think my main point was - one shouldn't judge people's mental health risk because not everone risks now the same way nor processes the stress the same way. And it will take a while before it gets registered. That's why I worry about kids, it may take even longer, they are supposed to "function" as before and they verbalize less efficiently.
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Covid has been an unmitigated disaster for dermatologists.
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Covid anxiety has certainly put pressures on couples and whole families, when 1 member is über anxious and controlling partner and/or rest of family.

https://www.bbc.com/news/disability-56591440
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