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People might not want to change but circumstance will dictate in the future that they have to change. There won't be a choice
Don't know. All I know is what I can change I will definitely change. I never relied on anyone else other than myself and a close circle of friends and family, never expected anything from strangers and never asked for anything from anyone. I don't expect anyone to change, I can only hope but I'm reserved.

Seriously, take my advice. Work on yourself. The rest is just.... noise.
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Not to disturb your nice list, but have a look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
Just a little X-Files chucked into the mix.
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The Swiss National Bank is buying it up (again). They can buy it back after.
Yes, with money printed out of nowhere.
And the volume of goods produced is not increasing (but the opposite probably).
Welcome, rising inflation.

And Switzerland is lucky because its economy will probably recover relatively quickly.
Rest of the world is much more messed up.
E.g. Croatia got out of the 2008 recession perhaps 5 years ago.
If this results in a new one, they are screwed for at least another 5 years...
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Old 30.03.2020, 10:02
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Re: Corona - The aftermath

Just to have some perspective on the issue, like I said, it is a combination of greed and animal abuse that managed to get us to where we are right now. Did you all know about some facts regarding Coronavirus and Italy?

Take a look at this: https://uncoverdc.com/2020/03/20/why...ZwZX4imnCvtT2E
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Old 30.03.2020, 10:06
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...Also, personally I have had zero downtime but have instead been working 12, 13, 14 hours nonstop a day and thus much more than normal. In many ways this is precisely because there's no natural cutoff to the day - nowhere to commute to, no lunch to go to, no beers to be had anywhere and with anyone, no exercise class to disappear to, and no family to go back to as they've been around you all day already anyway (provided you have one). Most people I know report the same. No corona vacation here and of course absolutely not sustainable either without creating problems on a whole other level.
I think you have to take some measure of control over your circumstances or you're going to burn out.

Mr Wishes and I have chosen to stick to our normal routine as close as possible. We get up at the same time as always, put on regular clothes (not dressed up but no pjs) take coffee breaks and lunch when we normally would, etc. My team is doing virtual coffee breaks online so we can still chat like we usually would.

I'd say hubby and I are working a bit longer than normal but certainly not 12-14 hr days. Maybe an extra hour or half hour.

We're also keeping dinner and bedtimes normal. We assume at some point we'll go back to working mostly in the office and by keeping routines this should be less of a shock to the system. We're not bingeing on netflix or whatever.

The only "big" change for us is that he normally shops every other day for fresh foods and now he's shopping max twice a week to limit exposure. I'm not going out at all, so that's a bit odd when normally I commute via public transport.
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Old 30.03.2020, 10:20
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For a lot of employees, remote work may become a more common thing to do during normal times.

Albeit, a lot of people who should stay away from computers is now trying to work through them. My wife works with children in the afternoons, her employer is pushing the idea of teaching via video. I see a great long term risk on this, what if customers(parents) believe it works? Expect work to be concentrated by celebrity teachers and the rest of them without a job.

On the business side. WeWork may go finally bust. The idea of sharing spaces and things will lose a bit of popularity. Greedy people that put all their eggs on the AirBnB basket may face bankruptcy too. Expect the rest of the "sharing economy" to suffer too.

I wonder what are the effects of the current crisis in the net migration to CH. Is people still arriving or leaving? Employees with scarce skills may benefit a lot.
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For a lot of employees, remote work may become a more common thing to do during normal times.

Albeit, a lot of people who should stay away from computers is now trying to work through them. My wife works with children in the afternoons, her employer is pushing the idea of teaching via video. I see a great long term risk on this, what if customers(parents) believe it works? Expect work to be concentrated by celebrity teachers and the rest of them without a job.

On the business side. WeWork may go finally bust. The idea of sharing spaces and things will lose a bit of popularity. Greedy people that put all their eggs on the AirBnB basket may face bankruptcy too. Expect the rest of the "sharing economy" to suffer too.

I wonder what are the effects of the current crisis in the net migration to CH. Is people still arriving or leaving? Employees with scarce skills may benefit a lot.
I wonder what the numbers are in CH


-people who still have to go out of their house to work
-people who work from home
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I wonder what the numbers are in CH


-people who still have to go out of their house to work
-people who work from home
I took a walk on the weekend, passed above the A1 on a bridge. Traffic looked normal. Food still needs to be delivered by truck drivers, they're a must. But I did not understand why so much small car traffic, most of us are supposed to be at home
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I took a walk on the weekend, passed above the A1 on a bridge. Traffic looked normal. Food still needs to be delivered by truck drivers, they're a must. But I did not understand why so much small car traffic, most of us are supposed to be at home
People are driving to the mountains to walk in fresh air away from the crowds. (me included, in the car alone)
Better than going to the parks and forests near the cities, where everyone else is.
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Fingers crossed on not needing a ventilator.
Bloody false friends, I meant fan of course.


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On the business side. WeWork may go finally bust. The idea of sharing spaces and things will lose a bit of popularity. Greedy people that put all their eggs on the AirBnB basket may face bankruptcy too. Expect the rest of the "sharing economy" to suffer too.
This is the other area of concern, a lot of businesses have already gone to the wall and many more will suffer even with state aid. Its going to be survival of the fittest and the end result will be less choice and competition.
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I took a walk on the weekend, passed above the A1 on a bridge. Traffic looked normal. Food still needs to be delivered by truck drivers, they're a must. But I did not understand why so much small car traffic, most of us are supposed to be at home
I wonder what the main Zürich rail station looks like now in the " rush " hour. Are the trains still full at that time?
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I took a walk on the weekend, passed above the A1 on a bridge. Traffic looked normal. Food still needs to be delivered by truck drivers, they're a must. But I did not understand why so much small car traffic, most of us are supposed to be at home
About a week before lockdown began, many car rental companies in Switzerland, and across Europe, reported a huge surge in people taking out long term rentals. Many of these will be essential workers who no longer want to rely on the dwindelling public transport system.

They shouldn't be (but probably are) people who decide it's ok to take their exercise in another town or village, despite many villages complaining that they don't want tourists bringing their germs from the cities and stripping their shops bare of essentials. We've already got people who live on the outskirts of cities and villages struggling to get home deliveries and being forced to go to the shops themselves, without selfish gits driving out of the cities "for exercise" and doing "a little shopping" whilst they're at it.

The exact same thing is happening in the UK. My mate lives in a row of 3 cottages on a remote single track road in the Yorkshire Dales with elderly neighbours either side of him. He's working from home and doing the shopping for his neighbours. In one hour on Friday morning, 24 runners, 32 walkers & 14 cyclists passed his living room window, plus 8 cars and vans parked in the tiny layby outside the cottages, blocking the access to their gardens and allotments which are on the opposite side of the road. His neighbours were too scared to go outside. Just to give you an idea of how remote the place is...


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Working from home - After weeks of people proving they are quite capable of working from, and with the technology and IT tools available, I think many business will start to question why they spend so much money on office space when it's not needed.
This. The IT infrastructure is there and there is so many jobs that can be executed from home. It actually has been for quite a while now, but the companies has refused it because they believe they can control people better if they have them in sight at the office.(even though that control is false)
This will put pressure on managers. They will have to be able to spot an employees performance instead of the users monitor at 24/7.
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I wonder what the main Zürich rail station looks like now in the " rush " hour. Are the trains still full at that time?
They show it regularly on TeleZüri 'ZüriNews'. There's still a handful of people milling about last I saw on there, but it's only yesterday that all the train connections into Italy have been stopped.

We can see straight into the carriages of the trains from our balcony and they're mostly empty. The S6, S16 and S7 are running their usual timetable, but the most people I've seen on the rush hour trains recently is about 5 or 6.
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The aftermath-Trump is finished as a President. This crisis has put an end to his re-election deams.
I wouldn't be so sure. It's still early days in the USA, and as others have pointed out, Biden doesn't always come across as having all his marbles.

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I took a walk on the weekend, passed above the A1 on a bridge. Traffic looked normal. Food still needs to be delivered by truck drivers, they're a must. But I did not understand why so much small car traffic, most of us are supposed to be at home
I think most people who are still required to physically go into work are trying to go by private car to limit exposure. I'd sure try to do that and avoid public transport for now.
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About a week before lockdown began, many car rental companies in Switzerland, and across Europe, reported a huge surge in people taking out long term rentals. Many of these will be essential workers who no longer want to rely on the dwindelling public transport system.

They shouldn't be (but probably are) people who decide it's ok to take their exercise in another town or village, despite many villages complaining that they don't want tourists bringing their germs from the cities and stripping their shops bare of essentials. We've already got people who live on the outskirts of cities and villages struggling to get home deliveries and being forced to go to the shops themselves, without selfish gits driving out of the cities "for exercise" and doing "a little shopping" whilst they're at it.

The exact same thing is happening in the UK. My mate lives in a row of 3 cottages on a remote single track road in the Yorkshire Dales with elderly neighbours either side of him. He's working from home and doing the shopping for his neighbours. In one hour on Friday morning, 24 runners, 32 walkers & 14 cyclists passed his living room window, plus 8 cars and vans parked in the tiny layby outside the cottages, blocking the access to their gardens and allotments which are on the opposite side of the road. His neighbours were too scared to go outside. Just to give you an idea of how remote the place is...


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So now we reached "this is my area of the country"?
It's perfectly okay to live in the sticks, go to town to see a movie, have dinner, do shopping etc. when needed or only wanted in normal times but it's not okay for the city people to take walks in the country, when it's hardly possible in the city?

By the way, in times of crisis (wars in the nearer past) city people always go to the country, remembering their own farmers etc.

They can walk and cycle past my window any time they like. I agree I'd get grumpy if they blocked our drive-way (how American is that, LOL, and I'm not even American).
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probably alot more hippies running around after its finished-with long hair and unshaved.
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probably alot more hippies running around after its finished-with long hair and unshaved.
Either that, or military style or bald.

For the women not being able to color their hair, it might be the end of the MILF era
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Re: Corona - The aftermath

One thing that is now evident is the fact that seasonal workers from eastern Europe are no longer coming to the west to work on the fields, no fruit pickers, no Spargelstecher, no cheap labour for farms, no flowerpickers for Holland, no vegetable pickers for France and Spain.
That is going to put a dent on the harvest for 2020, add to that these workers depend on the sesonal work for a living.
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