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Re: Kim Jong Un reportedly as good as dead

North Korea will probably have a female leader before the UK labour party at this rate...
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Old 26.04.2020, 18:53
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I think you are mixing some things up. What may look like a "revolution" (or made to look like one sometimes even by Western media) is often nothing more than a "coup".
Maybe you can read a bit more thoroughly, as I wrote that in the post above.

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other people wanting power in the military will ride that wave of discontent to further their own ends in the name of "progression" and there will be a coup.
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Yes and then they lived happily ever after....what a naive comment. Cubans are under Castros for 60+ years, North Koreans another 70+. They are stronger than ever. Dream on.
60 or 70 years is hardly an epoch worthy of the sagas... things can and do change with time, especially as modern communication delivery methods get more advanced and information becomes harder to control.
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Old 26.04.2020, 20:18
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Omtatsat should change his siggy.
hes not dead yet! And anyhow they have made a replica clone from him.
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His sister Kim Yo Jong, aka the North Korean Ivanka.
If he's dead and the sister takes over I sure wouldn't want to be the widow (or one of her children).
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Re: Kim Jong Un reportedly as good as dead

That's bad news. At least we knew what to expect from Un, showing his power and exercising it inside the country, but not really considering to attack anyone (just rhethorics to bargain some more rice from China). The new one may be not so predictable and crazy for real.
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That's bad news. At least we knew what to expect from Un, showing his power and exercising it inside the country, but not really considering to attack anyone (just rhethorics to bargain some more rice from China). The new one may be not so predictable and crazy for real.
Yes, and he's not doing a totally bad job, from what he took over. If reports are correct, he economy is doing - for DPRK levels - pretty fine, and he didn't do any crazy stuff like the "currency reform" he father tried.

In short, he knows life outside is better, he knows people are getting quite some information how life in China and South Korea is, and that it's obviously MUCH better than that in North Korea.

Trump is probably playing heavily into his cards - that dude manages to annoy both South Korea and China at the same time, but even more, making himself (and the US) look so bad, they can probably stream his TV "shows" live in North Korea, and make it look like the Americans are really lead by a show of monkeys.

Apparently, Kim did re-distribute quite some money from the army towards civilian development, including using army labour to build civilian projects. He can only do so much without fearing a military takeover, that's pretty obvious. But by having some working nukes, even if it's 60s tech, he basically managed to keep the Americans at bay. Having the risk to get Tokyo, Osaka and Seoul nuked should they try something funny is a MUCH better detergent than some 5 million men and women under arms, but not able to actually properly feed them.

I could even see Kim eventually trying to unify Korea in a peace term. Something DDR-like, where the North wouldn't completely lose out, with amnesia or even a political career possible for him and his top men, I wouldn't rule that out. He knows that, should North Korea eventually collapse completely, South Korea and China would share/grab whatever they can from it. With his name, and that of his family, tained forever.

Bringing, however, a unification to Korea, would mean his name would be whitewashed to quite some degree. Of course it's possible he could become the same lunatic as his father, and considering he doesn't really got his eating problems under control (and neither his smoking), I doubt he's such a strong leader to actually think that far. So probably, as others said, he'll just play the other powers to survive as a leader, while being careful to bring some progress to it's people (so they stay content, despite more and more knowledge about the outside world getting in) but not upsetting the army.

It's all really a joker's box.

It could be his death would change the situation in Korea for the better. It could be for the (much) worse. Or it could stay more or less the same. His sister seems extremely competent, but also ruthless.
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Old 26.04.2020, 22:58
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Do they let women rule in North Korea? I have no knowledge/real understanding of the country.
They do let women rule in communist countries. Even encourage it. Though according to my South-Korean friend their culture is very patriarchal, but over the border things are/might be different.

I'm not sure his sister would be better tbh. I do see their situation hopeless.
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Re: Kim Jong Un reportedly as good as dead

Some of the most egoistic and ruthless leaders I have had at work have been women.
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Old 27.04.2020, 09:05
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Re: Kim Jong Un reportedly as good as dead

Is he really dead, half-dead, media-dead or still alive? Please confirm.
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Is he really dead, half-dead, media-dead or still alive? Please confirm.
Yes.
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Is he really dead, half-dead, media-dead or still alive? Please confirm.
That could take a while considering they're quite good at hiding things and a lot of this is based on speculation due his media vanishing act and perceived poor health. He's done it before and came back with a cane, maybe this time it'll be a wheelchair, maybe a coffin.
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Some of the most egoistic and ruthless leaders I have had at work have been women.
Sorry to hear that... You're not the only one to have this opinion, I guess women are flawed too.
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Yes, and he's not doing a totally bad job, from what he took over.
At his reign certainly science and scientists got a very prominent and preferential treatment. But unfortunately by doing so they have advanced their rocket science capabilities beyond any forecasts by leapfrogging maybe even decades with a very probable help of some former Soviet Union rocket scientists and engineers and now have an ICMB capable rocket engine tested and ready for an adequate payload.
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Old 27.04.2020, 10:30
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That could take a while considering they're quite good at hiding things and a lot of this is based on speculation due his media vanishing act and perceived poor health. He's done it before and came back with a cane, maybe this time it'll be a wheelchair, maybe a coffin.
Judging by the piece of unconfirmed news which have also reached me few days ago, I attempted to find some credible source of actual state of affairs in N.Korea. The latest reveal that he is still alive and kicking, probably enhancing his nuclear program.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/26/asia/...ntl/index.html
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Re: Kim Jong Un reportedly as good as dead

Japan is most anxious about KJU and whats next now. After all, KJU shot missiles passing Japan a few times and who knows what the new leader would do...
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Re: Kim Jong Un reportedly as good as dead

Kim must have given an order to start the nuclear war, now sealed in his bunker for 30 years, thinking there is radioactive apocalypse outside
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I remember the Robert Mugabe thread.

We may be seeing deja vu all over again.
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Kim must have given an order to start the nuclear war, now sealed in his bunker for 30 years, thinking there is radioactive apocalypse outside
I wish we could lock him and Trump away in a padded room together with nothing but a lifetime supply of Pringles.
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I wish we could lock him and Trump away in a padded room together with nothing but a lifetime supply of Pringles.
They could share their locker room stories.
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Re: Kim Jong Un reportedly as good as dead

Voila, he is "Back in Black"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...YXf?li=BBnb7Kz
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