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Old 23.05.2020, 11:50
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Re: Ban for motorbikes.

Too many egomaniac bikers on the road. They get a machine between their legs and think they can overtake in the most dangerous circumstances. Of course, none of you are included in the group, but there are far too many out there that have pissed off many a driver or bicyclist.


And this is coming from someone who used to love riding over the passes on the back of a powerful bike until:
- we were overtaken while we were overtaking
- we found ourselves shaking our heads watching too many dangerous maneuvers.
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Old 23.05.2020, 11:56
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Re: Ban for motorbikes.

Excellent suggestion!

Should apply to cars as well, and include the vehicles that are already immatriculated.
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At the same time why not ban SUVīs as these gas guzzling wannabe offroaders are totally over the top, and then quad bikes, theyīre just silly and why not chuck cabriolets into the bin too. And donīt get me started on penis enhancing sports cars.
At the end of the day we donīt really need all the different types of vehicles, just build an electric trabbi for those who are too lazy to use bicycles and public transport.
You're barking up the wrong tree, it's not about banning the bikes.
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Old 23.05.2020, 12:02
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And this is coming from someone who used to love riding over the passes on the back of a powerful bike until:
- we were overtaken while we were overtaking
- we found ourselves shaking our heads watching too many dangerous maneuvers.
Yep,love being a pillion rider too. We spot that also and usually we're overtaken by 'Schnuderbuebe' without wearing proper gear!! It really beggars belief how stupid some people are, sitting on their 125ccm Enduros in shorts and t-shirts..... and believe it or not, I am only slightly exxagerating. #facepalm

On our last round trip (home-Jaunpass-Fribourg-home) we got overtaken 3 times by the same group if youngsters with AG number plates, each time more dangerous at times 3 of them paralell on the 'wrong' side of the road.
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Old 23.05.2020, 12:09
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Re: Ban for motorbikes.

I got seriously groaned a couple of years back for pointing out that motorcycle riders were the best candidates for organ donorship. I mentioned a mate of mine who was waiting for a double lung transplant at that time.

Well you may be happy to hear that he got his transplant a few months back. And his donor was a motorcyclist.
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Old 23.05.2020, 12:29
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Re: Ban for motorbikes.

I'd prefer if they would control the noise, rather than the motorcycle itself.


Personally, I am very aware of the noise my bike makes when I ride. If I could switch it for electric (with comparable features), I would. However, my BMW is generally pretty quiet, and I try to be easy on the throttle.

I also tend to avoid the passes simply because that's where all of the Ricky Racers and Harley outlaw wannabes tend to congregate.
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Old 23.05.2020, 12:45
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Re: Ban for motorbikes.

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If there isn’t a regulation governing noise, there should be. And it should be enforced.
There is.

And it is.

Since 1975.

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Old 23.05.2020, 12:56
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Re: Ban for motorbikes.

At the moment I am riding a Pan European, itīs about as vanilla as you can get on a motorbike.
But I agree, some bikes do have an annoying sound, looking at you, 125cc crotchrocket, but the most annoying bikes are no longer on the road, you donīt see the one time omnipresent two stroke jobbies doing the two down and open the tap anymore.
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Old 23.05.2020, 13:00
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Re: Ban for motorbikes.

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At the moment I am riding a Pan European, itīs about as vanilla as you can get on a motorbike.
But I agree, some bikes do have an annoying sound, looking at you, 125cc crotchrocket, but the most annoying bikes are no longer on the road, you donīt see the one time omnipresent two stroke jobbies doing the two down and open the tap anymore.
My daughter has one, '81 RS 125 2-smoke.

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Old 23.05.2020, 13:10
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Re: Ban for motorbikes.

The simple fact is that had motorcycles not been invented yet, there would be zero chance of them being allowed today. It‘s frankly madness that we can stride two wheels and a powerful engine with little more than gloves and helmet as protection...

(I have held a full motorcycle licence since the 1960s, but you would never get me on one today.)

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Old 23.05.2020, 13:49
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Re: Ban for motorbikes.

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At the moment I am riding a Pan European, itīs about as vanilla as you can get on a motorbike.
But I agree, some bikes do have an annoying sound, looking at you, 125cc crotchrocket, but the most annoying bikes are no longer on the road, you donīt see the one time omnipresent two stroke jobbies doing the two down and open the tap anymore.
I see, hear and smell plenty of two-smokes on the road. Growing up a neighbor of mine had a Honda CR 500. Yes, a 500cc two stroke. It only had two gears that I am aware of. First and HOLY FUUUUK! That bike was always trying to kill who ever rode it. That said, the best form of protection is your brain. I ride as if everyone is drunk, dumb and cant see me. When a car does pull out if front of me I am expecting it and avoid it.

Car drivers on their phones.....dont get me started.
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Old 23.05.2020, 13:59
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Re: Ban for motorbikes.

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Regardless of how much I love to ride a bike, I can see they want them to be more quiet.

I live high-up in Leimbach, and I can hear them pulling the gas on the other side of Adliswill
Great, isn't it? It's always nice to hear someone appreciating their machinery and using it correctly.
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Old 23.05.2020, 14:18
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Re: Ban for motorbikes.

My neighbour's got one - it looks nearly new.

Do all modern motorbikes require the engine warming-up for ten minutes before they are driven off, or is my neighbour just a cock?
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Old 23.05.2020, 14:35
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My neighbour's got one - it looks nearly new.

Do all modern motorbikes require the engine warming-up for ten minutes before they are driven off, or is my neighbour just a cock?
A CR500? Does he want to sell it? I've never seen one in CH and just assumed they were never allowed. To be fair they never should have been built in the first place. Even in SoCal that bike is feared and often called Satan's bike.

Just look at a few YT videos, 10% throttle 30% of the time and yet still ahead of everyone else who are doing 90%-80%.

Yes, even some modern bikes are cold blooded. But if he is reving it up too much then he is just being a dick.
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Old 23.05.2020, 14:51
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I see, hear and smell plenty of two-smokes on the road. Growing up a neighbor of mine had a Honda CR 500. Yes, a 500cc two stroke. It only had two gears that I am aware of. First and HOLY FUUUUK! That bike was always trying to kill who ever rode it. That said, the best form of protection is your brain. I ride as if everyone is drunk, dumb and cant see me. When a car does pull out if front of me I am expecting it and avoid it.

Car drivers on their phones.....dont get me started.
Yep, when I started riding a bike I was told "If you think they're all out there to get you - that's exactly how it is" and been riding accordingly ever since.

Then again, it's the same for pedestrians, yet they behave as if they were unkillable. So maybe we should get rid of those too while we're at it?
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Old 23.05.2020, 14:55
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Great, isn't it? It's always nice to hear someone appreciating their machinery and using it correctly.
I don't care myself, but I can see why others don't like it. Having one of those bikes pull open the gas completely and a parent has to get out of bed in the middle of the night again to comfort the baby/toddler. There simply is no need to make such unnecessary noise in rural areas at night. If they want to drive 130 in 1st gear just find a highway outside town.

As for me, I lived a few years less than 100mtrs from a clubhouse from Gubsakkerne MC and some people indeed moved away from there due to the everlasting noise. (why anybody would want a Harley always has been a mystery to me...)
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Re: Ban for motorbikes.

No sympathy for the bikers either. Ignoring their frequent arrogance on the roads (not all are like that, but you notice one way too often), what buggers me most is the noise.

As a parent of a newborn, its super annoying to have some idiot on a chopper (or superbike, or anything else crazy loud) blast it to 80-100kmh around midnight (or even later), for those 200-300m of straight road and then break like crazy on next traffic lights. After we spend quite a bit of time to get him asleep, we are back to square one.

Same goes for loud supersport cars. Maybe drunk or high on drugs, definitely immature or compensating for some small bodyparts, at the end it doesn't matter. Cutting their own branch long term. Eventually there will come noise regulation, same as for air pollution. Fix can be relatively simple in all cases.

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Old 23.05.2020, 18:24
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If they want to drive 130 in 1st gear
I don't, which is why most of my bikes run short gearing.

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Old 23.05.2020, 18:25
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Do all modern motorbikes require the engine warming-up for ten minutes before they are driven off?
Modern, no, but most of mine are older, and do. Especially in winter.

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Old 23.05.2020, 18:28
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Having one of those bikes pull open the gas completely and a parent has to get out of bed in the middle of the night again to comfort the baby/toddler.
Always puts my kids to sleep, but my youngest started riding at 5 months (she's 27 now, and rides a '81 RS125 2-smoke)

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Old 23.05.2020, 19:08
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No sympathy for the bikers either. Ignoring their frequent arrogance on the roads (not all are like that, but you notice one way too often), what buggers me most is the noise.

As a parent of a newborn...
No sympathy for parents of newborns - you knew what you were letting yourselves in for. Anyway, the sooner your sprog gets used to night noises the sooner it will start sleeping through, so the bikers are doing you a favour by getting it done early.
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