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Old 24.05.2020, 22:03
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Speaking of which, did you read that Hertz just filed for bankruptcy? USD 19 billion in debt Given this, just how many other smaller companies (with thin margins!) will fold? So sad...

https://www.theguardian.com/business...otection-in-us
It's not going totally under, yet. Chapter 11 allows them to restructure and hopefully come out on the other side.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/chapter11.asp
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Old 24.05.2020, 22:16
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Speaking of which, did you read that Hertz just filed for bankruptcy? USD 19 billion in debt Given this, just how many other smaller companies (with thin margins!) will fold? So sad...

https://www.theguardian.com/business...otection-in-us
Chapter 11 is not bankruptcy. It is in fact to intended to enable a firm to avoid bankruptcy, by reaching an agreement with it's creditors. It remains to be seen if they can find some kind of workable solution with their creditors or not.
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Re: Travelling Abroad: When do YOU feel it's safe?

Probably going to the US in July, a state relatively unaffected and rather rural. I need to see my family. We have all in the immediate family most likely been exposed so that does factor in. Was planning originally to all meet up in upstate NY to see extended family but that’s been put off until next year—Not comfortable with the risk certain elderly and poorly extended family members would incur. All that can change so quick though of course. Probably will head down to Italy with my husband in September by car to enjoy our annual trip. In short we’re making plans but staying flexible ...
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Old 25.05.2020, 08:58
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6th of July, direct flight to Cancun. Bought tickets back in January, hope we'll be able to use them.

I also expect double standards: lots of criticism for driving across borders and short-haul flights in Europe, while curiosity for long-haul flights.

PS. staycations are a joke: Unguarded border post allows traveller caravans to enter Switzerland https://www.thelocal.ch/20200522/ung...er-switzerland

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as soon as al the borders in Europe will be open, I will travel by car to visit family and friends back home in Croatia.
You can already do that.
Germany, Austria and Slovenia (and Italy perhaps too, if you go that route) do let passengers (going back to their citizenship-country) in transit through.
And Croatia has no regulations for compulsory self-quarantine once there, just recommendations.
I am going in 2 weeks.
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One thing that I'm curious about is the safety of aircraft that have been 'parked up' for months. I'm no aviation expert, but would probably want to let planes fly for a few months before I set foot on one. That shouldn't be a problem as my company is not allowing travel until, at best, 31 August and no large meetings until 31 March.
Aircraft have a maintenance schedule that must be adhered to with special provisions for long term parking. You've possibly flown on aircraft which have been parked up before. Even the 737's which have been grounded for nearly a year require continuing maintenance.
There are also procedures for returning aircraft to use if they've been neglected, this is expensive but less so than having an unusable aircraft.
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6th of July, direct flight to Cancun. Bought tickets back in January, hope we'll be able to use them.

I also expect double standards: lots of criticism for driving across borders and short-haul flights in Europe, while curiosity for long-haul flights.

PS. staycations are a joke: Unguarded border post allows traveller caravans to enter Switzerland https://www.thelocal.ch/20200522/ung...er-switzerland
I can't read the post since i'm not a member. Where is this unguarded border post located?
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Old 26.05.2020, 16:55
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My son just left for the States today. The airport had a few people roaming around but only Terminal 1 was open, with people lining up for their Swiss flights. No crowds, no waiting at security...it was a weird feeling.

As for me, I've got no plans for travelling at the moment but I definitely would like to see the tourism sector stop losing money.
Olygirl, how did it go for him? I assume he still had to transit through one of a handful of airports? Did he have a temperature check and/or a brief interview with instructions on self-isolating? Hope it went smoothly.
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Old 26.05.2020, 18:38
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I can't read the post since i'm not a member. Where is this unguarded border post located?
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After the public embarrassment, I'd bet the police is now guarding this road 24/7.
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You can already do that.
Germany, Austria and Slovenia (and Italy perhaps too, if you go that route) do let passengers (going back to their citizenship-country) in transit through.
And Croatia has no regulations for compulsory self-quarantine once there, just recommendations.
I am going in 2 weeks.
I know. But signing in Austria that you will not do any stop in it (not gas stop, bathroom stop, nothing) is currently risk for me because I have so far traveled through Italy so don't know how that would go....
no rush for now, so.... let's wait for few more weeks.
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Small sidetrack: Anyone know if it’s possible for non-Schengen to travel to Schengen (anywhere is fine) if they are direct relatives (i.e. parents), from a country that allows visa-free travel and there’s a “valid” reason (whatever the hell that may mean exactly - but it wouldn’t be for tourism)? Not right now, but as of early June as borders open? I presume it’s not clear yet, but I can’t find conclusive information.
As I understood, it depends on each country who they let in or from where. Schengen doesn't really mean much these days.
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Olygirl, how did it go for him? I assume he still had to transit through one of a handful of airports? Did he have a temperature check and/or a brief interview with instructions on self-isolating? Hope it went smoothly.
He arrived safely in Newark and has since reached his final destination. I know things went smoothly but I haven’t had a chance to talk to him yet.
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As I understood, it depends on each country who they let in and from where. Schengen doesn't really mean much these days.
Indeed, Italy wants to open on the 3rd, CH and the other neighbors said 15th, CH now says no Italy before July.

Unless they change their minds again tomorrow.

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Indeed, Italy wants to open on the 3rd, CH and the other neighbors said 15th, CH now says no Italy before July.

Unless they change their minds again tomorrow.

Tom

I read that the opening of the borders between Switzerland, Germany, France and Austria was announced for 15th of June, provided that the epidemiological developments in these countries are favourable.
So for Italy will be July. Good to know.
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Re: Travelling Abroad: When do YOU feel it's safe?

olygirl, do you know if the US is open to non-nationals? Trip planned for July, would like to take my swiss husband if I can. Not keen on three weeks vacation apart hehehe.
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olygirl, do you know if the US is open to non-nationals? Trip planned for July, would like to take my swiss husband if I can. Not keen on three weeks vacation apart hehehe.

I honestly don't know if spouses are allowed to accompany their American counterparts back to the US
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olygirl, do you know if the US is open to non-nationals? Trip planned for July, would like to take my swiss husband if I can. Not keen on three weeks vacation apart hehehe.
He is allowed to follow you:

2. Passengers who have transited or have been in Austria, Belgium, China (People's Rep.), Czechia, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Iran, Ireland (Rep.), Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland or in the United Kingdom (excluding overseas territories outside of Europe), in the past 14 days are not allowed to enter the USA.
-This does not apply to:
- nationals and permanent residents of the USA;
- spouses of nationals and of permanent residents of the USA
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He is allowed to follow you:

2. Passengers who have transited or have been in Austria, Belgium, China (People's Rep.), Czechia, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Iran, Ireland (Rep.), Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland or in the United Kingdom (excluding overseas territories outside of Europe), in the past 14 days are not allowed to enter the USA.
-This does not apply to:
- nationals and permanent residents of the USA;
- spouses of nationals and of permanent residents of the USA
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He arrived safely in Newark and has since reached his final destination. I know things went smoothly but I haven’t had a chance to talk to him yet.
My son said people we’re wearing masks during the flight and when he arrived in Newark, they took his temperature and advised him to self-isolate for two weeks.

That’s it.
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Re: Travelling Abroad: When do YOU feel it's safe?

For what it's worth, I have cancelled my summer holidays planned for late July in Greece. I had already booked and paid 50% of my rental, which I will lose (Fr. 1200), but I was lucky to not have purchased or booked anything else (neither flights nor first night hotels, etc). I am not risking attending a beach with thousands of people from all over Europe, especially with my 2 youngest kids along with us. I'd rather miss one summer holiday, stay at home, and see howthe first year of this pandemic plays out, and will be the happiest guy in the world to see that I "wasted" Fr. 1200 because there's no such thing as a "second wave", if that's what turns out to occur.
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