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Old 22.05.2020, 19:43
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Travelling Abroad: When do YOU feel it's safe?

When do you feel it's safe to travel abroad? I'm on a travel forum and people are literally yelling at anyone who is considering travelling abroad to stay home, even if the borders open up within Schengen or to non-Schengen visitors. Anything else is irresponsible.



Some posters state that travelling in a plane with multiple layovers will increase the risk of infection while others insist that travel will accelerate a second wave.


There's a lot of fear-mongering going around, especially among those 60+.


I personally feel that if borders are open and you don't mind adhering to the safety measures involved, than travel will be safe.



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Old 22.05.2020, 19:53
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Re: Travelling Abroad: When do YOU feel it's safe?

Mass-travelling would be no problem if people would stick to the preventive measurements, however I have very low faith in humanity when it comes to such things, some will do perfect, others will screw it up.
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Iam so furious - people have travelled to UK and UK residents have returned from all over the world from countries where Covid19 was very active. No checks, no leaflets, no announcement at UK airports- NOTHING. We have been in isolation since 16th of March and were hoping by the end of June we would be able to go and stay at our apartment and see the children and grandchildren...And today we are told we would ahve to self isolate in the flat for 14 days- and risk 1000 fine if we do not. And I suppose self isolate again for 14 days on return. I would have welcomed a this 2 months ago - but too late, too late - why now?
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Old 22.05.2020, 20:21
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Iam so furious - people have travelled to UK and UK residents have returned from all over the world from countries where Covid19 was very active. No checks, no leaflets, no announcement at UK airports- NOTHING. We have been in isolation since 16th of March and were hoping by the end of June we would be able to go and stay at our apartment and see the children and grandchildren...And today we are told we would ahve to self isolate in the flat for 14 days- and risk 1000 fine if we do not. And I suppose self isolate again for 14 days on return. I would have welcomed a this 2 months ago - but too late, too late - why now?
Why on return?
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Old 22.05.2020, 20:30
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Re: Travelling Abroad: When do YOU feel it's safe?

I don't intend to do any unnecessary travel for the foreseeable future. I would no enjoy it so there is no point.
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Old 22.05.2020, 20:33
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Re: Travelling Abroad: When do YOU feel it's safe?

Well, the Falkland Islands have no cases, so they're probably ok.

I do want to go to the UK as I have elderly parents. But otherwise, I'm holidaying in Switzerland.
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Re: Travelling Abroad: When do YOU feel it's safe?

Because I am over 65, and OH is over 70 and at very high risk - so would have to self isolate from him too.
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Old 22.05.2020, 21:22
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Because I am over 65, and OH is over 70 and at very high risk - so would have to self isolate from him too.
That would be your own decision. No "have to" here in Switzerland.

And if that's how strongly you feel about it - what are your arguing about? The less safe you feel about travelling the less desire you should have to do so?
Or are you just arguing that "they" (who ever that would be) have not eliminated this darn corona-thing yet?


As to "when do I feel safe about it", very unlike me, on this subject I will just take the government's view: When the borders are open again, I will cross them again as I only didn't 'cause I couldn't. I don't think the German corona is all that different from the Swiss one.
Although, re the things I need to buy in Germany ('cause not available here), I'll give it about a month until all the shopping-locusts have gotten their stuff and I can do my thing in piece and quiet.
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Irrespective of the rules and laws of any country, Odile, if your OH is at very high risk, why would he even, for one moment, be considering travelling? I'm sorry, I don't understand this part of your/his plans. Of course I can't know, but I think that, if I were in his shoes, I wouldn't want to risk it.
exactly, the reason why I intended to go on my own. So I would have to self isolate for 2 weeks in UK, and then not stay with daughter and grandchildren- and see one at a time outside (as per current UK rules) - then self isolate in our own home on return to protect OH.

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Iam so furious - people have travelled to UK and UK residents have returned from all over the world from countries where Covid19 was very active. No checks, no leaflets, no announcement at UK airports- NOTHING. We have been in isolation since 16th of March and were hoping by the end of June we would be able to go and stay at our apartment and see the children and grandchildren...And today we are told we would ahve to self isolate in the flat for 14 days- and risk 1000 fine if we do not. And I suppose self isolate again for 14 days on return. I would have welcomed a this 2 months ago - but too late, too late - why now?
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When do you feel it's safe to travel abroad? I'm on a travel forum and people are literally yelling at anyone who is considering travelling abroad to stay home, even if the borders open up within Schengen or to non-Schengen visitors. Anything else is irresponsible.



Some posters state that travelling in a plane with multiple layovers will increase the risk of infection while others insist that travel will accelerate a second wave.


There's a lot of fear-mongering going around, especially among those 60+.


I personally feel that if borders are open and you don't mind adhering to the safety measures involved, than travel will be safe.



What do you think?
The point is, that most borders are closed and that there are not many flights .
Currently in europe you can travel to sweden, uk, netherlands and portugal without quarantine .
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Last March.

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When do you feel it's safe to travel abroad? I'm on a travel forum and people are literally yelling at anyone who is considering travelling abroad to stay home, even if the borders open up within Schengen or to non-Schengen visitors. Anything else is irresponsible.



Some posters state that travelling in a plane with multiple layovers will increase the risk of infection while others insist that travel will accelerate a second wave.


There's a lot of fear-mongering going around, especially among those 60+.


I personally feel that if borders are open and you don't mind adhering to the safety measures involved, than travel will be safe.



What do you think?
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olygirl, you didn't say, how do you intend to travel?
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olygirl, you didn't say, how do you intend to travel?
My son just left for the States today. The airport had a few people roaming around but only Terminal 1 was open, with people lining up for their Swiss flights. No crowds, no waiting at security...it was a weird feeling.

As for me, I've got no plans for travelling at the moment but I definitely would like to see the tourism sector stop losing money.
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My son just left for the States today. The airport had a few people roaming around but only Terminal 1 was open, with people lining up for their Swiss flights. No crowds, no waiting at security...it was a weird feeling.

As for me, I've got no plans for travelling at the moment but I definitely would like to see the tourism sector stop losing money.
Speaking of which, did you read that Hertz just filed for bankruptcy? USD 19 billion in debt Given this, just how many other smaller companies (with thin margins!) will fold? So sad...

https://www.theguardian.com/business...otection-in-us
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Speaking of which, did you read that Hertz just filed for bankruptcy? USD 19 billion in debt Given this, just how many other smaller companies (with thin margins!) will fold? So sad...

https://www.theguardian.com/business...otection-in-us
It's not going totally under, yet. Chapter 11 allows them to restructure and hopefully come out on the other side.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/chapter11.asp
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Speaking of which, did you read that Hertz just filed for bankruptcy? USD 19 billion in debt Given this, just how many other smaller companies (with thin margins!) will fold? So sad...

https://www.theguardian.com/business...otection-in-us
Chapter 11 is not bankruptcy. It is in fact to intended to enable a firm to avoid bankruptcy, by reaching an agreement with it's creditors. It remains to be seen if they can find some kind of workable solution with their creditors or not.
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My son just left for the States today. The airport had a few people roaming around but only Terminal 1 was open, with people lining up for their Swiss flights. No crowds, no waiting at security...it was a weird feeling.

As for me, I've got no plans for travelling at the moment but I definitely would like to see the tourism sector stop losing money.
Olygirl, how did it go for him? I assume he still had to transit through one of a handful of airports? Did he have a temperature check and/or a brief interview with instructions on self-isolating? Hope it went smoothly.
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