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Who flies/trains/buses them in and pays for the hotel accommodations exactly? And on this scale - namely 30 cities?
All it takes for sleeping is sympathisers, squatted buildings and a sleeping bag, besides that most of the protesters are from close-by.

And even if they wanted a bus of their own, 60 people a weekend and 300 miles is doable for 1.500,-, that's $25,- per person. Peanuts for a group where people are more than willing to pay along to make the activities possible.

I think you over-estimate the financial needs of them.
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Old 31.05.2020, 23:06
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Feelings are a deeply personal thing, they have no relevance in the public domain. Your love for your OH for example is utterly irrelevant for the general public. If he were to commit whatever crime, your feelings wouldn't change the verdict even one bit.

Feelings may cause you to reach certain moral values, but moral itself is a logical set of values that are (hopefully) concise in and of themselves. "You must not kill" (except in a few exceptional circumstance) and "don't do unto others what you don't want done unto you" are fundamental moral (and legal) commandments. They're also completely void of emotions. Which is in fact the reason why they work.

The inverse of the latter, "do unto others in need as you wish be done unto you" is of course rooted in compassion but contains zero emotionality.
Do you know what the broad definition of a psychopath is? It's someone who lacks empathy, and one of the typical characteristics of psychopaths is that they are detached from their emotions and are unable to experience guilt.

The fact that you believe empathy and consideration of people's feelings is not important and has no relevance in the public domain is truly frightening. But from what I've seen in your other posts, in which you blame the poor for being poor, etc., empathy clearly isn't considered normal or necessary behavior in your mental space.
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Old 31.05.2020, 23:13
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Stop trying to tell me what to do. It's none of your business and it doesn't work.
Oh yes it is, as long as you keep replying to my posts.

I proposed to leave it at that, us. We don't have to continue any dialogue.
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Old 31.05.2020, 23:14
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All it takes for sleeping is sympathisers, squatted buildings and a sleeping bag, besides that most of the protesters are from close-by.

And even if they wanted a bus of their own, 60 people a weekend and 300 miles is doable for 1.500,-, that's $25,- per person. Peanuts for a group where people are more than willing to pay along to make the activities possible.

I think you over-estimate the financial needs of them.
Perhaps..But I saw videos today (hand held) of people offering money to others to smash business windows - basically create anarchy. This was a mobilized effort. Who mobilized it is the question? And that mobilization takes money...
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All it takes for sleeping is sympathisers, squatted buildings and a sleeping bag, besides that most of the protesters are from close-by.

And even if they wanted a bus of their own, 60 people a weekend and 300 miles is doable for 1.500,-, that's $25,- per person. Peanuts for a group where people are more than willing to pay along to make the activities possible.

I think you over-estimate the financial needs of them.
PS..Some mayors have said that the looters were not from their state and came from out of state borders...
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Old 31.05.2020, 23:35
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Has Antifa issued any kind of formal statement to suggest that they condone the looting, the burning of businesses, etc.? Have there been many Antifa flags showing up at the riots?

I know they're not necessarily anti-violence, but one would think that Antifa would find such behavior to work against their cause. They usually try to discourage violence unless it is necessary and directed at white supremacists.
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Oh yes it is, as long as you keep replying to my posts.

I proposed to leave it at that, us. We don't have to continue any dialogue.
You obviously have serious comprehension problems. Not surprising considering it's coming from you.

Bedtime for you now, HAGN.
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I‘d be more likely to believe that white supremacists are behind the violence than Antifa, especially if Trump is claiming that Antifa are responsible.
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Has Antifa issued any kind of formal statement to suggest that they condone the looting, the burning of businesses, etc.?
Who should do that? There is no such thing as "The Antifa" or a central leadership who decides on all. It is just a whole bunch of individuals and local groups with the same ideas waving the same flag, it's a movement not an organisation and nobody is in the position to speak on behalf of the movement.
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Do you know what the broad definition of a psychopath is? It's someone who lacks empathy, and one of the typical characteristics of psychopaths is that they are detached from their emotions and are unable to experience guilt.
There you go again with your personal attacks. Better not complain next time you're the target.
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You obviously have serious comprehension problems. Not surprising considering it's coming from you.

Bedtime for you now, HAGN.
And yet you keep replying.
Why?
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Not always. People become single parents through death of the partner, the partner leaving (not necessarily the fault of the one left behind), and even simple lack of access to preventive measures and/or abortion after rape.

To say single parenthood is caused by the person who is single is a bit oversimplified.
Of course it's a simplification. Obviously. If one were to enumerate every exception to a point the actual point would get drowned and the post become TLDR.

Anyway Sherlock, you called for it: to what percentage of the out-of-wedlock births do those exceptions add up to? Please provide credible sources.
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Old 31.05.2020, 23:55
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Do you know what the broad definition of a psychopath is? It's someone who lacks empathy, and one of the typical characteristics of psychopaths is that they are detached from their emotions and are unable to experience guilt.

The fact that you believe empathy and consideration of people's feelings is not important and has no relevance in the public domain is truly frightening. But from what I've seen in your other posts, in which you blame the poor for being poor, etc., empathy clearly isn't considered normal or necessary behavior in your mental space.
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There you go again with your personal attacks. Better not complain next time you're the target.
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Anyway Sherlock, you called for it:

Do you not see who's making these attacks?

We can go on till the end of the day. As long as you choose to harass and insult, there's no point to continue replying to people you so much dislike.

What happened with let's agree to disagree? Or I don't see your point? More civil things like that?

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And yet you keep replying.
Why?
I wanted to know what childish behaviour such as yours feels like. Well, it's no fun to a mature person.

I'll leave you the last word. Again, HAGN.
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Old 01.06.2020, 00:11
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I'll leave you the last word. Again, HAGN.
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Stop trying to tell me what to do. It's none of your business and it doesn't work.
What you said.
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Old 01.06.2020, 00:25
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I guess you won't see this if you blocked me as you said that you would, but I couldn't possibly care less if you block me.

I never once said that it couldn't be caused by multiple factors. But it was you who had written the following and said that black people might actually be treated roughly the same as whites [by the judicial system] and that the predominant factor seems to be socioeconomic in nature:

"It seems to me that having access to a good lawyer (and the money to settle, where available) may be the predominant factor here. As a consequence the poor would get sentenced more often, and for longer, than their well-off or rich counterparts. An extreme case is Ethan Couch, a Texan who walked free after killing four people driving drunk due to suffering from what his lawyers termed "affluenza".

Given the socioeconomic realities, this could mean that black people are treated roughly the same as the whites in a comparable situation, but because poor whites are a smaller subset of their racial group than poor blacks, the racial average may look like blacks get handled more heavy-handed than whites although, in such a scenario, that's not necessarily the (main or only) reason."

And yet now you're trying to accuse ME of saying that there aren't multiple factors involved?
No, he won't block you he'll keep pestering and insulting, as he does with many people here.

I regret to inform you you're not that lucky.
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Let's do this right and let's do this peacefully. Demand change within the police system, demand change towards equality and be a role model in all of this.
I'm not sure how closely you follow US politics or this particular issue, but they've been "demanding change within the police force, the justice system and hoped for equality for years/decades/hundreds of years. With the results you see today.

What actions would be peaceful and appropriate?
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Uhhh! Can this be true? The national guard shooting at civilians?https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...m_source=share


Taking it with a biiiig pinch of salt but if it is a fake then a damn good one.
They were shooting paintballs at civillians on their own front door steps in suburban, residential Minneapolis last night, and the footage was shown on the ITV evening news in the UK. Maybe I'm wrong, but that looks like a decent neighbourhood, and if I saw that number of police in the street, I'd be wondering what the eff the place is coming to.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9541016.html
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I'm not sure how closely you follow US politics or this particular issue, but they've been "demanding change within the police force, the justice system and hoped for equality for years/decades/hundreds of years. With the results you see today.

What actions would be peaceful and appropriate?
No looting. No property damage. No violence.
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I wanted to know what childish behaviour such as yours feels like. Well, it's no fun to a mature person.

I'll leave you the last word. Again, HAGN.

So, let me get this straight, Urs. You claim you are a mature person? You have been engaging in childish behaviour, not because you are childish but because (in your opinion) other posters are being childish towards you and so you are being childish back to show them what being childish feels like? Is that really the actions of a mature person?

But you are spot on in one regard. It is no fun for the many mature posters wanting only civility and polite discussion to have to read childish and ill mannered posts, whatever the reason and whosoever posts them. Why don't we all keep it classy
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