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Actually the ones I was thinking of are good fun. I mentioned it just to highlight that seemingly "good people" can hold entrenched racist views. These people are then more likely to accept/rationalise overt racist acts by others.
Oh yeah, I know. I know the type. I never keep anyone like that around unless they're family..
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Old 04.06.2020, 09:05
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Turns out George Floyd was infected with the Corona virus.

I'm not sure what that has to do with the case, but it's being reported.
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Old 04.06.2020, 09:10
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I would say that‘s no different than what many people have said. What positive actions has he suggested?
I suppose none.
First, because nobody would risk fuelling the anger right now by charging the looters and arsonists, vandals etc., even if some of them were filmed and there is solid evidence against them.
Second, because main stores like Nik.e or other luxury stores etc have good insurances and won't press charges. (that would be bad for their image...I guess)

It's kind of sad that after corona lockdown many people have locked themselves in heir homes out of fear of something else now. What a mess.

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Old 04.06.2020, 09:21
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Turns out George Floyd was infected with the Corona virus.

I'm not sure what that has to do with the case, but it's being reported.
Poor George. He couldn't get a break.
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Old 04.06.2020, 09:25
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Re: The racial time bomb-USA

Those claiming there is no systemic racism in the US are dissociated from reality, analogous to climate change deniers or flat earth theorists - ignoring all empirical evidence

White privilege makes you either complicit, complacent or altogether ignorant - nevertheless, ultimately repugnant
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Old 04.06.2020, 09:41
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Re: The racial time bomb-USA

This video is a few years old now, however the story is the same now as it was then, and as it has been for decades. Chief Flynn describes the entire problem America faces in a couple of short minutes, if only it were as quick to outline the solution!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7MAO7McNKE
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Turns out George Floyd was infected with the Corona virus.

I'm not sure what that has to do with the case, but it's being reported.
It means that he will be listed as having died from COVID rather than murder.

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It means that he will be listed as having died from COVID rather than murder.

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They wouldn't dare.
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Old 04.06.2020, 10:31
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They wouldn't dare.
I can see some sneaky narrative emerging here, that what the police officer did to Floyd would not normally have been deadly, but suffering from pre-existing breathing problems on account of COVID, this made him more vulnerable and accelerated his death.

If the jury buys that, there will be a huge backlash and lots more violence. But some lawyers will try anything.

It might as a minimum make the difference between murder and manslaughter.
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Old 04.06.2020, 10:44
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I can see some sneaky narrative emerging here, that what the police officer did to Floyd would not normally have been deadly, but suffering from pre-existing breathing problems on account of COVID, this made him more vulnerable and accelerated his death.

If the jury buys that, there will be a huge backlash and lots more violence. But some lawyers will try anything.

It might as a minimum make the difference between murder and manslaughter.
How much can they push the limits when everything was filmed and everyone can see for themselves?
That would be the worst thing they can do. They won't. There might be racist policemen (though I think that police man had other.....disorders too) but not everyone will be willing to cover this crime. Not this time.
Let's have some trust...
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Old 04.06.2020, 11:32
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I can see some sneaky narrative emerging here, that what the police officer did to Floyd would not normally have been deadly, but suffering from pre-existing breathing problems on account of COVID, this made him more vulnerable and accelerated his death.

If the jury buys that, there will be a huge backlash and lots more violence. But some lawyers will try anything.

It might as a minimum make the difference between murder and manslaughter.
Oh of course that narrative will happen; I am fully prepared for an acquittal and whatever stupid excuse they can come up with they will. And then all hell will be breaking lose I'm sure... If it hasn't already. Actually strike that - it already has, it will just be an even bigger hell.



Also, it's truly a dark period seeing I have to extend my respect to Bush Jr and George Will:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/02/geor...-protests.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...bbd_story.html
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Old 04.06.2020, 11:57
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Re: The racial time bomb-USA

Trump moving in the military just feels like he is rehearsing for a coup he plans if the elections go the wrong way. Lets see now who in the military plays ball and who should get replaced till autumn...
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Oh of course that narrative will happen; I am fully prepared for an acquittal and whatever stupid excuse they can come up with they will.
I guess time will tell.
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Old 04.06.2020, 12:09
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I can see some sneaky narrative emerging here, that what the police officer did to Floyd would not normally have been deadly, but suffering from pre-existing breathing problems on account of COVID, this made him more vulnerable and accelerated his death.

If the jury buys that, there will be a huge backlash and lots more violence. But some lawyers will try anything.

It might as a minimum make the difference between murder and manslaughter.
It may not get so far. Maybe by some twist of fate, Derek Chauvin, will have caught a fatal dose of COVID-19 from this deadly encounter. Such an eventuality could also have a calming effect on the rioters.
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Old 04.06.2020, 12:27
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It still took days of protest till the cop was arrested- it took till today(!) that the others cops watching on for eight minutes finally face charges as well. I bet they wouldn’t if it wasn’t for the protests.
The police always look out for their own.

It starts with looking away when another policeman parks on the double yellow line and it ends in covering one another for murder.

The police need to be held to the same standards as the rest of society. Across the board.
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The police always look out for their own.

It starts with looking away when another policeman parks on the double yellow line and it ends in covering one another for murder.

The police need to be held to the same standards as the rest of society. Across the board.
I'm hoping these demonstrations will break the blue wall of silence.
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Bufallo NY, 75 year old assault by Police

Of all the craziness in the US right now, this really got me angry.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/u...er-unrest.html

I'm not diminishing the George Floyd murder while chained up in any way, which is an absolute disgrace on the Minneapolis Police by a few rotten apples. I hope they get their just deserts & then some.
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Regretfully it is not just 'a few' rotten apples. And every orchardist knows if you don't get rid of rotten apples quickly and completely they will rot every other apple that comes near them.

The entire system is broken. Why on earth were four police officers sent to arrest a man due to a suspicious $20 note? What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty in a court of law?

The police need to be de-militarised and trained to do their jobs. That doesn't include learning the best ways to kill people.
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Re: Bufallo NY, 75 year old assault by Police

The guy is an idiot.
He tried to stop, confront or remonstrate with a group of 40 riot police who were on route trying to disperse a crowd.

What did he think was going to happen? They'd stop for a chat?
He'd alter their point of view? They'd all take to the knee?
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The guy is an idiot.
He tried to stop, confront or remonstrate with a group of 40 riot police who were on route trying to disperse a crowd.

What did he think was going to happen? They'd stop for a chat?
He'd alter their point of view? They'd all take to the knee?
Doesn't matter what he thought.

Breaking someones skull because they're in your way is not acceptable and that's the issue here. Plus, what crowd? There were more cops then protesters there.
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