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Old 18.06.2020, 20:49
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And shooting him in the back, while almost injuring an innocent bystander, kicking him when he was dying and standing on his shoulder were all acceptable police tactics.

Why couldn’t the police have simply given him a summons to appear the next day?
Because he's a danger to himself and a menace to society. Do you really think that he would simply show up the next day in court? This isn't Switzerland, where you need to register at the Gemeinde and they know where everybody lives.
Shooting him in the back? He had not problems deploying the taser while running forward.

Ace brought something up pertaining to unarmed. Do you really think that those people shot "unarmed" last year didn't pose any imminent danger to the lives of passerby or a police officer?
Like this case for instance. And guess what, people marched there as well against police brutality. There is a lack of accountabilty, where society draws a line and start using common sense. Pancake's last post, pretty much sums it up beautifully. While it is unfortunate that he got shot, it was entirely Mr. Brook's wrongdoing. If you live in a society, where you think it's alright to attack police officers and then get summoned the next day, then I'm afraid, you haven't realized how grave the situation really is. And surely enough, the media is always present to add more fuel to the fire.
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Old 18.06.2020, 21:07
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Why couldn’t the police have simply given him a summons to appear the next day?
Because it isn't Switzerland.

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Old 18.06.2020, 21:33
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So what happens now? Do people in the US think it's okay to violently resist arrest when they're being arrested for a DUI or anything else? Is it okay to steal a cop's taser and use it on a cop because the cop isn't legally allowed to defend himself?
Black privilege.
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Like this case for instance.
Wow, that's some case! From that article:
... another man came into the store and began a violent struggle with the officers, leading to one of them using their stun gun on him, but it failed to subdue him, according to Harrison.

The man, identified by police sources as 33-year-old Kwesi Ashun, then used a chair and struck one of the officers in the head, police said. The cop that was hit then fired his gun six times, striking Ashon in the head and shattering the front window of the salon, according to a law enforcement source.


The police fired the tazer, but it didn't stop the man.
Then the police officer was struck on the head by chair (so much so that he was later in hospital for intensive treatment) but that didn't prevent him from firing his gun six times, including hitting his target accurately.

Apart from the rightness or wrongness of anyone's actions in this case, if what is reported here is true, then those are two very tough men!
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Old 18.06.2020, 23:03
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Wow, that's some case! From that article:
... another man came into the store and began a violent struggle with the officers, leading to one of them using their stun gun on him, but it failed to subdue him, according to Harrison.

The man, identified by police sources as 33-year-old Kwesi Ashun, then used a chair and struck one of the officers in the head, police said. The cop that was hit then fired his gun six times, striking Ashon in the head and shattering the front window of the salon, according to a law enforcement source.


The police fired the tazer, but it didn't stop the man.
Then the police officer was struck on the head by chair (so much so that he was later in hospital for intensive treatment) but that didn't prevent him from firing his gun six times, including hitting his target accurately.

Apart from the rightness or wrongness of anyone's actions in this case, if what is reported here is true, then those are two very tough men!
Yes, as a sidenote, the issue with the taser is that if both prong don't connect with the target, they're pretty much ineffective. Another issue are baggy articles of clothing, which would prevent the prongs from sticking into the flesh. What also poses another issue are drugs. There are reported cases, where a subject gets tasered repeatedly but to no avail, because the target was so heavily intoxicated that (I don't know the exact science behind it) that the nervous system failed to report the breach in the body. (or something along those lines).
Pertaining to that particular case, the office who shot the assailant was put into a medically induced coma but he was released from the hospital.
Here's the news footage:


Toward the end of the video, listen to the audacity of what the assailant's sister had to say; and people marched against police brutality.


Another case of an unarmed men getting shot is this one:

People also marched for this incident.
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Re: The racial time bomb-USA

Racist Facebook post by Bern ( fascist ) cop!

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Old 24.06.2020, 09:44
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Re: The racial time bomb-USA

We don't really know how racist the person is or the context behind it. I need more info before calling anyone a racist just because of this one photo and text.
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Old 24.06.2020, 09:52
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Racist Facebook post by Bern ( fascist ) cop!

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Why are you posting facebook posts from 2013. No matter how tasteless, it's 7 years ago.
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Old 24.06.2020, 10:11
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Why are you posting facebook posts from 2013. No matter how tasteless, it's 7 years ago.
Well people are getting upset over statues of slave owners from 350 years ago so this so why not?!
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Old 24.06.2020, 10:21
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Re: The racial time bomb-USA

... statues of slave owners, traitors to their country and poor soldiers who caused tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths...
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... statues of slave owners, traitors to their country and poor soldiers who caused tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths...
Careful or we could also add George W. Bush to the list for instigating a war against Iraq under false pretenses.
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Trump moving in the military just feels like he is rehearsing for a coup he plans if the elections go the wrong way. Let’s see now who in the military plays ball and who should get replaced till autumn...
I don’t normally quote myself but it seems we are at stage 2 of the test by now: Trump gets away with unmarked „federal agents“ in cities that did not ask for help. Allegedly DHS with added ex-blackwater contractors. I am wondering what will happen in the hours and days after the election...
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I don’t normally quote myself but it seems we are at stage 2 of the test by now: Trump gets away with unmarked „federal agents“ in cities that did not ask for help. Allegedly DHS with added ex-blackwater contractors. I am wondering what will happen in the hours and days after the election...
Well I expect the Secret Service, his praetorian guard will show him the exit, supported by the DC police, the parks service, the Smithsonian staff, the DC national guard, and a bunch of other independent police forces.

That is, if he doesn’t hide out in his golf course when it will be the same regular suspects but just geographically shifted.
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Re: The racial time bomb-USA

Or perhaps Moms! https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53504151
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Re: The racial time bomb-USA

And again...

Kenosha shooting: Protests erupt after US police shoot black man
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Re: The racial time bomb-USA

Shot in the back seven times.

As I recall correctly from all those cowboy films it was dishonourable to shoot a man in the back, particularly an unarmed one. What the hell were they thinking?
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Old 24.08.2020, 20:36
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Shot in the back seven times.

As I recall correctly from all those cowboy films it was dishonourable to shoot a man in the back, particularly an unarmed one.

Not if the person is heading to his horse/saddle when clearly told not to do so by the Sheriff
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Not if the person is heading to his horse/saddle when clearly told not to do so by the Sheriff
There is a difference between a last second shot to stop a bad guy from doing something terrible on the one hand and dumping an entire magazine into the back of a guy who hasn’t posed an immediate threat yet.

Or to put this simple: do you believe this was standard police practice or would the cops behave differently in case he was white?
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Or to put this simple: do you believe this was standard police practice or would the cops behave differently in case he was white?
Probably the same except that we wouldn't have heard about it.
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There is a difference between a last second shot to stop a bad guy from doing something terrible on the one hand and dumping an entire magazine into the back of a guy who hasn’t posed an immediate threat yet.
Have only watched the video once with sound off as I am already fed up of this world and can't be taking on more neagtive emotions, but if I saw correctly then...

- Was the guy walking away from the cops from right door of his vehicle all the way to the left door of his vehicle then heading down towards his car seat?

-Where the cops telling him to stop repeatedly?

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I don't know, neither do you. There are good cops and bad cops. I don't paint them all with the same brush. Maybe the cop was prejudiced by number of times black vs white person had resisted arrest. Who knows, let's riot and get to the facts later.

Tell me something, how would a cop differentiate between a person not following his command and just heading for his car seat vs someone reaching for a hand gun under his car seat?

In the current climate how dumb would it be for a cop to act racist in front of so many witnesses and also how dumb for the person not to follow cops orders?
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