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According to the BBC the victim has been handcuffed to his bed. What a bunch of {expletive deleted} morons.
Handcuffed to the bed despite supposedly being paralyzed from the waist down? I don't know... maybe it's protocol or something. Maybe there is a law that someone has to be handcuffed to their hospital bed no matter what their condition is, in a situation such as this. I'll assume there is probably a more logical explanation for it, albeit one that doesn't appear to make much sense.

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Handcuffed to the bed despite supposedly being paralyzed from the waist down? I don't know... maybe it's protocol or something. Maybe there is a law that someone has to be handcuffed to their hospital bed no matter what their condition is...
It was only recently that the US allowed convicted women giving birth not to be handcuffed to the bed. Or stopped sentencing children to life imprisonment without possibility of parole. Or sending 13 year olds to adult prison.

Alabama only repealed laws preventing black and white people marrying in 2000.

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On Friday, Mr Blake's attorney, Patrick Cafferty, told US media that Mr Blake was released from handcuffs and the outstanding warrants against him had been vacated.
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On Friday, Mr Blake's attorney, Patrick Cafferty, told US media that Mr Blake was released from handcuffs and the outstanding warrants against him had been vacated.
Is this what passes for justice in the US these days?

A criminal with a violent past is let off for sexual assault charges if they happen to get shot while reaching for a weapon while resisting arrest? Or is it only if they happen to be black?

It's terrible what happened to him (selberschuld IMO), but dropping the charges is just going to backfire for racial justice cancel culture and DT will end up in office for 4 more years.
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Re: The racial time bomb-USA

I believe the warrants were vacated, not the charges. If he is in custody the warrants are pointless, n’est pas?

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I believe the warrants were vacated, not the charges. If he is in custody the warrants are pointless, n’est pas?
Oh, ok. My misunderstanding.

Why even bother reporting on the warrants if it has no relevance to anything? In other news: an ant farted somewhere.

The media coverage of the incident is strange. One news article I read recounted the actions of the guy who got shot in the arm - saying that he had been chasing the 17 yr old, then paused and put his arms up when the skateboard guy got shot, then took a step toward the shooter before getting shot in the arm, then ran off screaming in pain and seeking medical attention.

Funny how they forgot to mention that before leaving the scene, he pulled out a pistol and unloaded his magazine in the direction of the 17 year old, missing all shots.
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Old 29.08.2020, 17:00
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Funny how they forgot to mention that before leaving the scene, he pulled out a pistol and unloaded his magazine in the direction of the 17 year old, missing all shots.
At what point did the guy who was shot in the arm start shooting at the kid with the rifle? I can't seem to find any info about that anywhere. What I saw in the videos is that he got shot in the arm, ran off screaming and was crouched down in pain and then a few of the other protestors put a tourniquet on his arm. And in the part of the video where it shows the kid with the rifle walking away, toward the police vehicles, I don't remember hearing any shots being fired. So I'm just trying to understand at what point the guy who was shot in the arm could have been firing his gun at the kid with the rifle.
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At what point did the guy who was shot in the arm start shooting at the kid with the rifle? I can't seem to find any info about that anywhere. What I saw in the videos is that he got shot in the arm, ran off screaming and was crouched down in pain and then a few of the other protestors put a tourniquet on his arm. And in the part of the video where it shows the kid with the rifle walking away, toward the police vehicles, I don't remember hearing any shots being fired. So I'm just trying to understand at what point the guy who was shot in the arm could have been firing his gun at the kid with the rifle.
In this video you can see that they guy who got shot in the arm was holding his pistol at the time (at around 0:07). This moment is shown again from a different angle at 0:33-then the guy who's been shot runs off, and 8 shots are fired between 0:41 and 0:45.

Unless i'm mistaken, (I forget where I read it), it was the guy who'd been shot who returned fire.

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Re: The racial time bomb-USA

This article has more info, and to me it looks as if the 17 year old will get off on the charges with a self-defense argument.


https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/20...osha-shooting/

This is a right wing site, but the videos they show of the 17 year old getting chased moments before a shot is heard, after which he shoots back at his attackers, are impartial. The other two who were later shot were attacking him with a skateboard and with a drawn pistol.

Rioters burning car dealerships over the shooting of a violent criminal who was resisting arrest. 17 year old kids feeling the need to protect car dealerships with assault rifles. Cops siding with armed vigilantes. White guys protesting on behalf of Black Lives Matter feeling the need to start fights with said armed vigilantes, shouting "Shoot me, Nigga!" And someone can walk away from the scene of a shooting holding an assault rifle and the cops don't bat an eyelid.

The US is f'n nuts.
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In this video you can see that they guy who got shot in the arm was holding his pistol at the time (at around 0:07). This moment is shown again from a different angle at 0:33-then the guy who's been shot runs off, and 8 shots are fired between 0:41 and 0:45.

Unless i'm mistaken, (I forget where I read it), it was the guy who'd been shot who returned fire.
Thanks. Wow, yeah I can see in there that the guy who was shot in the arm does indeed have a pistol in his hand. It's still a bit unclear to me as to who is shooting between :41 and :45, though. In another video that I saw, it shows the guy who was shot in the arm immediately running away, screaming for a medic and then crouching down in pain before a few other protestors come to him and put a tourniquet on his arm. So I don't see any moments in there, after he was shot, where he even had the opportunity to shoot the kid with the rifle because he had immediately run away after being shot and was crouched down in pain, not even facing the shooter (his back was turned to that area where the kid with the rifle was). Also, he's holding the pistol in his right hand, and it's his right arm that was shot. I'm not sure if he could have even fired that pistol if he wanted to, considering the condition of that arm. Here is a link to that video:

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Old 29.08.2020, 19:38
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Thanks. Wow, yeah I can see in there that the guy who was shot in the arm does indeed have a pistol in his hand. It's still a bit unclear to me as to who is shooting between :41 and :45, though. In another video that I saw, it shows the guy who was shot in the arm immediately running away, screaming for a medic and then crouching down in pain before a few other protestors come to him and put a tourniquet on his arm. So I don't see any moments in there, after he was shot, where he even had the opportunity to shoot the kid with the rifle because he had immediately run away after being shot and was crouched down in pain, not even facing the shooter (his back was turned to that area where the kid with the rifle was). Also, he's holding the pistol in his right hand, and it's his right arm that was shot. I'm not sure if he could have even fired that pistol if he wanted to, considering the condition of that arm. Here is a link to that video:

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you're right, it couldn't have been him firing those rounds.

It's like the Wild West all over again. Maybe everyone should carry two guns to be twice as safe.
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Old 29.08.2020, 19:45
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you're right, it couldn't have been him firing those rounds.

It's like the Wild West all over again. Maybe everyone should carry two guns to be twice as safe.
Yeah, it's so bizarre. And every time I see those videos, I still find them so disturbing.
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Re: The racial time bomb-USA

You can't figure out what really happened by just reading accounts and watching videos.

That's what the police do. Plus all sorts of other forensics. Drawing any kind of conclusion other than "it might have been self-defence" is a bit silly.
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Old 29.08.2020, 20:19
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You can't figure out what really happened by just reading accounts and watching videos.

That's what the police do. Plus all sorts of other forensics. Drawing any kind of conclusion other than "it might have been self-defence" is a bit silly.
Huh?

No, it's not silly to think that it's self-defense if an armed person is being attacked and they shoot the attacker. The alternative would likely be the attacker taking the gun and shooting them.

Maybe the events recorded on video don't fit your preconceived notion of what you would have preferred to happen? Maybe you were secretly longing for a right-wing bogeyman to help the left feel more of a sense of victimhood?
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Huh?

No, it's not silly to think that it's self-defense if an armed person is being attacked and they shoot the attacker. The alternative would likely be the attacker taking the gun and shooting them.

Maybe the events recorded on video don't fit your preconceived notion of what you would have preferred to happen? Maybe you were secretly longing for a right-wing bogeyman to help the left feel more of a sense of victimhood?
This isn't simply a case of self-defense, though. The protestors were chasing him and confronted him to try to take his gun away from him because he had just shot and killed someone else down the street simply because that guy had thrown a plastic bag at him. So they were trying to disarm him, and you can see that in the video when both guys (who were shot) were trying to grab his gun away from him prior to being shot. This isn't just a matter of people having attacked him. This is a matter of him having needlessly shot and killed someone else moments prior and then being chased down because people were trying to disarm him before he could kill more people. Again, you can see in the videos that both men who were shot were just trying to get the guy's gun away from him. They weren't wanting him to get away because he had just shot someone and they wanted to detain him so he could be held accountable.

Do you remember in the UK a year or two ago when there was a guy with a knife on the London bridge and people on the street were trying to detain him because he had just stabbed people in the building nearby? Imagine if that guy with the knife had stabbed and killed the people who were trying to detain him. Would he be innocent of murdering them because he was using his weapon in self-defense?

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This isn't simply a case of self-defense, though. The protestors were chasing him and confronted him to try to take his gun away from him because he had just shot and killed someone else down the street simply because that guy had thrown a plastic bag at him. So they were trying to disarm him, and you can see that in the video when both guys (who were shot) were trying to grab his gun away from him prior to being shot. This isn't just a matter of people having attacked him. This is a matter of him having needlessly shot and killed someone else moments prior and then being chased down because people were trying to disarm him before he could kill more people. Again, you can see in the videos that both men who were shot were just trying to get the guy's gun away from him. They weren't wanting him to get away because he had just shot someone and they wanted to detain him so he could be held accountable. The guy with the pistol didn't even use it on him. He was more focused on just trying to get the guy's gun away from him (prior to being shot).

Do you remember in the UK a year or two ago when there was a guy with a knife on the London bridge and people on the street were trying to detain him because he had just stabbed people in the building nearby? Imagine if that guy with the knife had stabbed and killed the people who were trying to detain him. Would he be innocent because he was simply using his weapon in self-defense?
In one of the videos on the site that i linked previously, you can see the 17 yr old being chased by the guy who was first shot, and others. He (guy first shot) throws what appears to be a bag full of liquid (which i read may have been gasoline, as the protestors/rioters had been starting dumpster fires and torching cars) at the 17yr old and misses, then continues chasing him in between the parked cars. A pistol shot is fired from somewhere/someone, and the 17 yr old's rifle is heard afterwards.

Lawyers for the 17 yr old say that he was being chased and attacked and that the shooting victim was trying to wrestle away the rifle when he was shot - which seems fairly consistent with the video evidence. He then returned to where the guy who he'd shot was lying, got on the phone with ?? to say he'd just killed someone, and then took off jogging in the direction of where he knew the police to be when he saw an angry mob forming. They chased him down the street, hitting him from behind with shouts of 'get him' and 'kill him' This is when he tripped and fell and was attacked by one guy with a flying kick (who he shot at and missed), another with a skateboard (who he shot and killed), and another with a handgun (shot in the arm).

The same guy who initially chasing him and was shot and killed can be seen in earlier videos being violent and aggressive towards the armed vigilante guys, basically trying to pick a fight, and shouting "shoot me!".

IMO all three victims were shot in self defense. My first thought after hearing about the incident was that some crazy right wing redneck racist must have gone to pick a fight with/kill BLM protestors. That was certainly the impression I got from MSM.

But looking at the photos of the burned out lot of cars from the protestors rioting the night before, it does make sense (in a strange dystopian way) that the armed vigilantes would be there to protect from further property damage (and not that it was just some made up excuse to be there in order to start trouble or intimidate protestors).

What a complete shitshow on all sides - trigger happy cops, rioting protestors, armed vigilantes, deceptive media, etc.
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Huh?

No, it's not silly to think that it's self-defense if an armed person is being attacked and they shoot the attacker.
No.Although in more civilised countries, simply being attacked isn't sufficient to be using deadly force. If he was being shot at, or he was in imminent danger of harm, then perhaps it would be proportionate. (Blood silly to be attacking someone who is heavily armed though)
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I'm not a big fan of the left either. I love this forum. I post one thing and get accused of being a fascist, another and I'm a bleeding heart liberal and yet another and I'm suddenly to the left of Marx!

TL;DR I think it is silly to make a firm judgement on what happened either way. Let's see what the police forensics come up with and what the courts say.

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I'm not a big fan of the left either. I love this forum. I post one thing and get accused of being a fascist, another and I'm a bleeding heart liberal and yet another and I'm suddenly to the left of Marx!

TL;DR I think it is silly to make a firm judgement on what happened either way. Let's see what the police forensics come up with and what the courts say.

But this happens to most people here, it's not some special treatment only you get. I could easily say "I'm no a big fan of the right" either, but I know these classifications don't mean much lately. I'm not a big fan of either extreme.
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I love this forum. I post one thing and get accused of being a fascist, another and I'm a bleeding heart liberal and yet another and I'm suddenly to the left of Marx!
And where did I accuse you of being any of those things?

I certainly had a preconceived notion of what had happened, based on the way that the incident was/is being portrayed by the MSM, as I stated in a previous post. Good thing that the video evidence is there for all to see, the eyewitness interviews are able to be read, etc. so that I might have a better idea of what is happening in my own country instead of waiting for the police to finish their investigations and blindly trusting what they have to say.

From the legal representation of the shooter:

"“in a reactionary rush to appease the divisive, destructive forces currently roiling this country, prosecutors in Kenosha did not engage in any meaningful analysis of the facts, or any in-depth review of available video footage (some of which shows that a critical state’s witness was not even at the area where the shots were fired); this was not a serious investigation. Rather, after learning Kyle may have had conservative political viewpoints, they immediately saw him as a convenient target who they could use as a scapegoat to distract from the Jacob Blake shooting and the government’s abject failure to ensure basic law and order to citizens. Within 24-36 hours, he was charged with multiple homicide counts.”

It seemed like you were trying to stifle discussion. Am i wrong?
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