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12.04.2021, 16:39
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Perhaps a group of children should have surrounded her and sang kumbaya then? | | | | | Well if it worked it would certainly have been a better definition of de-escalation. | The following 3 users would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
12.04.2021, 21:35
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that cop technique was good, particularly considering all the bulky stuff they need to carry.
he obviously trains the bee jay jay
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13.04.2021, 11:22
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| | Re: The racial time bomb-USA | Quote: | |  | | | And here’s a cop showing exactly how you de-escalate and subdue a criminal: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...tm_name=iossmf
Fit, well trained, calm, polite and thankful for help received. All police force should have this type of fitness, composure & training. | | | | | And here’s an example of how police completely escalate a calm and minor situation ... absurd beyond belief. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...tm_name=iossmf | The following 4 users would like to thank Susie-Q for this useful post: | | 
13.04.2021, 11:33
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| | Re: The racial time bomb-USA | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Someone called the cops to complain about noise. I guess this is a wet dream for some people | 
13.04.2021, 11:51
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| | Re: The racial time bomb-USA | Quote: | |  | | | Someone called the cops to complain about noise. I guess this is a wet dream for some people  | | | | | At 8:30 PM!  Is this Switzerland?
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16.04.2021, 19:41
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| | Re: The racial time bomb-USA | Quote: |  | | | A data breach of a Christian crowdfunding site revealed that public officials and police officers have donated to Kyle Rittenhouse, a teen facing charges for shooting protesters demonstrating for Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wis.
Rittenhouse is accused of firing his weapon into a crowd of protesters, killing two of them.
Among the donors identified was Sgt. William Kelly of the Norfolk Police Department, who gave $30 to Rittenhouse on Sept. 3.
He left the comment “God bless. Thank you for your courage. Keep your head up. You’ve done nothing wrong.” | | | | | Only in America | The following 2 users would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
16.04.2021, 22:04
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| | Re: The racial time bomb-USA | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | That society is heading for one big fall.
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16.04.2021, 22:11
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Those guys were pissed because the couple didn’t show deference nor respect. But one cannot demand respect, one can only earn it.
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17.04.2021, 14:13
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| | Re: The racial time bomb-USA | Quote: | |  | | | Those guys were pissed because the couple didn’t show deference nor respect. But one cannot demand respect, one can only earn it. | | | | | It had also occurred to me that because the video record was so good for proving the central allegation of at least "over reaction", that all the cops appear to have been white and the chief victim was (lightly) coloured, that it was a spoof designed to cause outrage. But, no, it does seem to be just daily life there.
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17.04.2021, 15:15
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He has a Tongan surname. I once heard a CA cop say, "They don't belong in clothes." In the upheaval of the '70s, we used to walk home from uni classes, and when we encountered the LAPD guarding the B of A building, we'd raise our hands in the air and say, "Just going home, officer, just going home."
This has been a bomb long in the making...
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19.04.2021, 01:31
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The US has more than its fair share of extreme nutters | Quote: |  | | | One person was killed and five others injured during a shooting that took place at a vigil for a shooting victim, Jarrin Hickman - a black man, on Saturday in Columbus, Ohio.
According to the Franklin County Sheriff's Office, a dark SUV drove by the vigil around 7:30 p.m. and began shooting at the crowd, hitting five people including a 12-year-old child. All five people were taken to local hospitals with non-life-threatening injuries.
Latoya Carpenter, 39, was not part of the vigil and was driving by when the shooting started. A bullet hit Carpenter in the head, Carpenter was declared dead at the scene. | | | | | | 
21.04.2021, 18:41
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Derek Chauvin guilty on all three counts. wow
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21.04.2021, 18:54
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| | Re: The racial time bomb-USA | Quote: | |  | | | Derek Chauvin guilty on all three counts. wow | | | | | It ain’t over until it’s over. He has the right to appeal and even the judge thinks there may be grounds for this. And if he wins, or loses, there is room for appeals all the way to the Supremes.
If this is over before the pandemic is, I’d be very surprised.
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21.04.2021, 21:24
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| | Re: The racial time bomb-USA | Quote: | |  | | | | Quote: |  | | | A data breach of a Christian crowdfunding site revealed that public officials and police officers have donated to Kyle Rittenhouse, a teen facing charges for shooting protesters demonstrating for Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wis.
Rittenhouse is accused of firing his weapon into a crowd of protesters, killing two of them.
Among the donors identified was Sgt. William Kelly of the Norfolk Police Department, who gave $30 to Rittenhouse on Sept. 3.
He left the comment “God bless. Thank you for your courage. Keep your head up. You’ve done nothing wrong.” | | | | |
Only in America  | | | | | Sgt. William Kelly of the Norfolk Police Department has now been fired.
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21.04.2021, 21:56
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| | Re: The racial time bomb-USA | Quote: | |  | | | It ain’t over until it’s over. He has the right to appeal and even the judge thinks there may be grounds for this. And if he wins, or loses, there is room for appeals all the way to the Supremes.
If this is over before the pandemic is, I’d be very surprised. | | | | | Yep, thanks to Maxine Waters he has a clear reason to appeal (even the judge said so).
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22.04.2021, 14:32
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| | Re: The racial time bomb-USA | Quote: | |  | | | Yep, thanks to Maxine Waters he has a clear reason to appeal (even the judge said so).
Tom | | | | | Even without her incitiong violence. The judge's remark that a "not guilty" verdict might cause renewed unrest is another one. Didn't he say that before Waters broke the law?
How can you claim Chauvin caused Floyd's death when the actual cause is unclear? First the prosecution went for asphyxia, but when that fell apart they changed their claim to heart arrest. Which is rather far fetched given that his heart blood vessels were blocked by something like 90% before the arrest. He definitely didn't get that from Chauvin's knee.
And of course there's the not-so-trivial fact of the fentanyl and other drugs in Floyd's blood, its concentration appears to have ben significantly higher (like by 50%) than what was lethal in other cases, plus semi-dissolved drug pills on the police car with Floyd's DNA on them.
Floyd's drug dealer was with him in the car, but refused testimony pleading the 5th. Usually the prosecution would offer immunity in return for the testimony, but no such thing was offered here. Obviously the prosecution doesn't care about the truth, they're only interested in a verdict.
Oh and btw, Maxine Waters was obviously inciting violence. But that's Ok, it's only bad when the Republicans do it.
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22.04.2021, 14:38
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| | Re: The racial time bomb-USA | Quote: | |  | | | Even without her blabberings. The judge's remark that a "not guilty" verdict might cause renewed unrest is another one.
How can you claim Chauvin caused Floyd's death when the actual cause is unclear? First the prosecution went for asphxia, but when that fell apart they changed their claim to heart arrest. Which is rather far fetched given that his heart blood vessels were blocked by something like 90% before the arrest. He definitely didn't get that from Chauvin's knee.
And of course there's the not-so-trivial fact of the fentanyl and other drugs in Floyd's blood, its concentration appears to have significantly higher than what was lethal in other cases, plus semi-dissolved drug pills on the police car with Floyd's DNA on them.
Floyd's drug dealer was with him in the car, but refused testimony pleading the 5th. Usually the prosecution would offer immunity in return for the testimony, but no such thing was offered here. Obviously the prosecution doesn't care about the truth, they're only interested in a verdict. Talk about racism. | | | | | prosecution maintained he died from asphixia. the "unclear cause of death" testimony came from the defense's expert .
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23.04.2021, 11:56
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| | Re: The racial time bomb-USA | Quote: | |  | | | Derek Chauvin guilty on all three counts. wow | | | | | Would have been very surprised if the most mediated case of institutional racism ended up with a different sentence. I think he can appeal till the cows come home. He might invoke a mental illness though, that scene made me believe the man could be mentally ill. There's no way such an amount of visceral hatred belongs to "normal". We'll see. After all he might get away on the basis of mental sickness.
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| | Re: The racial time bomb-USA | Quote: | |  | | | Would have been very surprised if the most mediated case of institutional racism ended up with a different sentence. | | | | | Umm, there is no sentence yet.
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23.04.2021, 13:02
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| | Re: The racial time bomb-USA | Quote: | |  | | | Umm, there is no sentence yet. 
Tom | | | | | I think it's the other meaning of sentence: words put together with a subject, verb and predicate. Maybe...
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