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Old 28.04.2021, 21:24
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10 years isn't 10 years anyway in the USA, not that many people dig deep enough to find out. Between credit for time served + good behavior he'd likely be out in no more than 5 if sentenced for 10.
Do you think?

Aren't they tougher on high profile cases?

A couple of decades ago in the UK there was a case concerning a farmer called Tony Martin who shot two burglars inside his own house, killing one and injuring the second. The case got strongly politicized with the gun and farming lobby coming out in support of Tony and civil rights groups against. The case was emotional and divisive and got discussed quite a lot. Despite Tony's good behavior record in jail, his appeal for early release was rejected, probably for political reasons.
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Urs Max, I really think you are letting your judgement be clouded by your hatred for the far left and BLM movement. I understand, our emotions are powerful ... but please try and step away from them & see the crime for what it was.
Brilliant, yet another internet psychologist. The only thing that was missing.

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Old 01.05.2021, 14:12
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Aren't they tougher on high profile cases?
They will be on this one.
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Old 01.05.2021, 16:32
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Do you think?

Aren't they tougher on high profile cases?

A couple of decades ago in the UK there was a case concerning a farmer called Tony Martin who shot two burglars inside his own house, killing one and injuring the second. The case got strongly politicized with the gun and farming lobby coming out in support of Tony and civil rights groups against. The case was emotional and divisive and got discussed quite a lot. Despite Tony's good behavior record in jail, his appeal for early release was rejected, probably for political reasons.
I don't know anything about the UK justice system but I know some about the American one. Chauvin is a first-time offender, so he won't get caught out by a 3-strikes law or anything. He's not eligible for the death penalty. He's wisely chosen to be sentenced by a judge instead of a jury. Juries can be emotional and revenge-driven in sentencing.

Unless sentenced to death or life without parole, a person becomes eligible for parole at roughly the halfway point of a sentence. Prisoners earn 1 day for each day served, including any time served while awaiting trial. They earn roughly an additional day if they behave and don't cause trouble or break the rules. Being a model prisoner and all that.

In 2010, a former classmate of mine was sentenced to 29 years for a drug offense. I think he had a few misdemeanors beforehand but no felonies or anything serious. He was released on parole after serving 10 years of the sentence. If he behaves for the next 5 years of parole, he'll have completed his sentence in 15 years instead of 29.

According to this article, Chauvin will only be sentenced on the most severe charge (2nd degree murder). The recommended time is 12.5 years. The minimum would be 10 years 8 months and the max 40 years.
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According to this article, Chauvin will only be sentenced on the most severe charge (2nd degree murder). The recommended time is 12.5 years. The minimum would be 10 years 8 months and the max 40 years.
In MN there's no "bonus" for good behaviour, Chauvin will probably be let out on parole after serving 2/3 of his sentence. The way I understood it, he'll be sentenced for all three charges separately but they'll be served in parallel.

But that's secondary. The real problem is the procedure and the predetermined guilt.
Police officers are leaving in droves, the spike since Floyd's death is bound to just be the beginning of much worse.
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