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Old 04.11.2020, 11:38
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

I am going to stick my neck out and say it's academic now who wins. The race is so close that this election is getting decided in the courts
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Old 04.11.2020, 11:39
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I am going to stick my neck out and say it's academic now who wins. The race is so close that this election is getting decided in the courts
Lawyers and glaziers being the big winners..
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I'm going to offer the other side of that and say that as long as PA doesn't turn, and Trump hangs on to his broadish lead in the other states, it doesn't matter if he loses Nevada and Wisconsin. Then we'll see the court cases coming from both sides.
Biden will I believe win the ‘democratic’ vote - no pun intended. Trump will fight dirty using all sorts of shady, legal shenanigans to try & stay in the WH. From all I have read and despite current thinking PA will ultimately go to Biden - most of the mail in ballots still to be counted (assuming they’re allowed to be counted) traditionally favour the Democrats. Hence my bold call for Biden but suspect we may not know the results until Friday 🙃
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

In addition to Maine, Nevada, and Wisconsin, Biden needs to win in Georgia (very unlikely):
https://www.politico.com/2020-electi...lts/president/ (Scroll until "Ways to Win")

According to this site, Georgia is at 99% reporting:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
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Old 04.11.2020, 11:54
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

The kids running round American towns, setting fire to shops and yelling in coffee-drinkers' faces look to have handed this to Trump.

And the fact that Biden was obviously not going to serve a full term.

And the fact that Biden is a poor candidate
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Old 04.11.2020, 12:04
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

I actually expect Joe Biden to win the votes needed for the Whitehouse, albeit through late counted mail ballots. Then we'll see all the problems I warned about mail ballots pre-elections. Prove a few of those are fraudulent, and it will really open up a can of worms in the courts!
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Old 04.11.2020, 12:05
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And the fact that Biden is a poor candidate
So is Trump, but he seems to be winning. So this was never about the better candidate, its about something else. Don't know what exactly though.

And the Dems will have another 4 years to look smart on TV, do stupid gimmicks and analyse what went wrong so they can lose again in 4 years from now. Unless they fundamentally change themselves and their approach
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Reminiscent of 'Oh, Jeremy Corbyn'
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So is Trump, but he seems to be winning. So this was never about the better candidate, its about something else. Don't know what exactly though.

And the Dems will have another 4 years to look smart on TV, do stupid gimmicks and analyse what went wrong so they can lose again in 4 years from now. Unless they fundamentally change themselves and their approach
OK fair point, "poor candidate to beat Trump" was what I meant.
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Old 04.11.2020, 12:09
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Am going to stick my neck out & call a narrow Biden win 😑

The race stands at 238 electoral votes for Biden to 213 for Trump, with six battleground states outstanding. If Biden can hang on to a narrow lead in Nevada, and seal the deal in Wisconsin, any additional state – North Carolina (15 electoral votes), Georgia (16), Michigan (16) or Pennsylvania (20) – brings him victory.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-polls-update
Curiously, which state(s) have been finalized to give 238 electoral votes to Biden? I'm still seeing him as having only 224 electoral votes (with Trump still at 213).

https://edition.cnn.com/election/202...n_national_map
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

4 years of reality show president and this is what the democrats achieve on the elections?

They might as well set Trump President for life.
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Old 04.11.2020, 12:15
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Ok. You must have faster internet.
The only counties with less than 90% of the vote counted are Brown (66%) and Kenosha (70%). Both are Trump counties.

Looks like Trump is going to win WI unless its the early vote that remains in those counties.
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4 years of reality show president and this is what the democrats achieve on the elections?

They might as well set Trump President for life.
Well, the mean IQ in the US is below average in comparison to the rest of the world, so go figure.

https://www.healthline.com/health/average-iq#average-iq
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Old 04.11.2020, 12:19
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Well, the mean IQ in the US is below average in comparison to the rest of the world, so go figure.

https://www.healthline.com/health/average-iq#average-iq
you're peddling this? The Democrats had 4 years to prepare for this and to get rid of Trump. It was their job to persuade the electorate, which clearly they haven't done very well.
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

If you get a chance, check out Bernie Sanders' interview with Jimmy Fallon 10 days ago - he virtually predicts with precision what appears to be transpiring now

On the flip side, this is fairly colorful & spot on as well IMHO

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you're peddling this? The Democrats had 4 years to prepare for this and to get rid of Trump. It was their job to persuade the electorate, which clearly they haven't done very well.
Yes, I am peddling a fact. Sorry.

I agree that the Dems could have done better. But I think there are also other factors involved.
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Ok. You must have faster internet.
Or google's algorithm works perfect and delivers according to it's promise "what you want and need".

I'm not into guessing so I just wait and watch. Trump's new way of talking is noticeable for example. He switched to quiet, non-humorous. It's weird, I don't know what impression he's trying to make with it as it's just .... weird. LOL.
His fans won't like it. I mean if he doesn't talk crap causing WTF reactions, what's left of him?
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Am going to stick my neck out & call a narrow Biden win 😑

The race stands at 238 electoral votes for Biden to 213 for Trump, with six battleground states outstanding. If Biden can hang on to a narrow lead in Nevada, and seal the deal in Wisconsin, any additional state – North Carolina (15 electoral votes), Georgia (16), Michigan (16) or Pennsylvania (20) – brings him victory.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-polls-update
With you on this. Wisconsin is the critical one but looks promising. If you look at the outstanding counts in Michigan, they are mainly from Democrat areas (particularly when you look at absolute numbers uncounted), same deal in Nevada where the numbers are in Las Vegas and also looking Democrat.
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So is Trump, but he seems to be winning. So this was never about the better candidate, its about something else. Don't know what exactly though.

And the Dems will have another 4 years to look smart on TV, do stupid gimmicks and analyse what went wrong so they can lose again in 4 years from now. Unless they fundamentally change themselves and their approach
It´s all about who is seen as the better candidate to protect wall street, keep the military budget flowing and let the rich stay rich.
Everything else is just cosmetics for the plebs.

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NV, WI and MI will give him the 32 votes needed indeed. It looks like it will be Michigan or Georgia to decide that election.

It feels like listening to a football game on the radio
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