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Trump/Pence
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04.11.2020, 18:25
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | Double standards everywhere. And now people don't find out about their mental diagnosis from EF but about their low IQ.  | | | | | Or about the tv channels they watch. Double standards everywhere, I agree. | Quote: | |  | | | Did I say "manic"
Seems the days of Presidents gracefully accepting defeat are long gone...
Seems AP may have called Arizona for Biden too soon? | | | | | He (Trump) started celebrating way too early. Is that a good sign? | This user would like to thank greenmount for this useful post: | | 
04.11.2020, 18:32
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Clearly not.
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04.11.2020, 18:44
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | He (Trump) started celebrating way too early. Is that a good sign?  | | | | | On one hand, it brings bad luck. On the other hand, you should never waste a good victory speech | The following 3 users would like to thank k_and_e for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | On one hand, it brings bad luck. On the other hand, you should never waste a good victory speech | | | | | That’s assuming the victory speech was good. Very big assumption.
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04.11.2020, 19:00
| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
I haven't read any posts on EF yet today, so apologies if this has already been mentioned:
I absolutely LMAO at this tweet from Donald Trump a couple of hours ago: | Quote: | |  | | | How come every time they count Mail-In ballot dumps they are so devastating in their percentage and power of destruction? | | | | | It's not rocket science, Donny. You spent the better part of half a year telling your base that mail-in voting was fraudulent, don't do it, go and vote in person -- and now you're crying because they didn't vote for you by mail?      
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04.11.2020, 19:00
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | That’s assuming the victory speech was good. Very big assumption. | | | | | I hit mute about 45 seconds in.
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04.11.2020, 19:11
| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: |  | | | | | | | | Explain it to me (really - i don't get it)
Trump has been saying for months that the mail in stuff would be a fraud, a fake, bad, whatever..
It's now come to that, as he said it would - as in it's come down to the mail in votes..
So what's with the mail in votes? Why are they mostly blue? Why did they all get left until the end to count? Is this normal, blue and counted last?
What else is different about mail in votes?
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04.11.2020, 19:16
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | So what's with the mail in votes? Why are they mostly blue? Why did they all get left until the end to count? Is this normal, blue and counted last?
What else is different about mail in votes? | | | | | Trump has been saying all along that Covid is a hoax and it's nothing to worry about. Also, he has been bashing the mail in votes as a process from the start. Thus, the vast majority of his voters were always going to vote in person. A sizable majority of Team Blue were always going to vote via mail in ballot to avoid exposure to Covid. There's no surprise here, this was expected before the election itself by both camps.
It makes me so happy to see the tantrums of Trump over twitter    . Especially the one that was "covered" by twitter | The following 2 users would like to thank gaburko for this useful post: | | 
04.11.2020, 19:17
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | So what's with the mail in votes? Why are they mostly blue? Why did they all get left until the end to count? Is this normal, blue and counted last?
What else is different about mail in votes? | | | | | They get counted last if there are enough to make a difference, otherwise they don't get counted.
Example1: the leader has 200k more votes more, and there are 100k mail votes, thus no need to count them.
Example2: the leader has 20k more votes more, and there are 100k mail votes, thus they need to count them.
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04.11.2020, 19:24
| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | Trump has been saying all along that Covid is a hoax and it's nothing to worry about. Also, he has been bashing the mail in votes as a process from the start. Thus, the vast majority of his voters were always going to vote in person. A sizable majority of Team Blue were always going to vote via mail in ballot to avoid exposure to Covid. There's no surprise here, this was expected before the election itself by both camps.
It makes me so happy to see the tantrums of Trump over twitter   . Especially the one that was "covered" by twitter  | | | | | Are the mail in vote verifiable? Linked to a real person? Or is it just a big bag of voting papers with an X in a box ?
If they are verified then there's not much case to answer?
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
We wont know the winner for some time. This will most likely be decided by the courts. Joe- We have put together the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics-Biden, that was not a gaff me thinks. Project Veritas (7-0 facing lawsuits) has some damming info on that and now we are seeing some sketchy shit go down in real time. 
I wont list some of the social media comments of people showing up to vote in person only to be told they have already voted via mail in ballot even though they claim they have not. I give these comments little to no weight but also keeping an eye open to see if a pattern emerges.
This on the other hand has a bit more weight than an online comment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM4u...ature=youtu.be
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04.11.2020, 19:29
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
Has there been a Rudy Giuliani interview yet? I hear he is going to be lead lawyer in the Supreme Court. With shirt tucked in.
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04.11.2020, 19:35
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
So in Michigan, basically all outstanding ballots are from the cities of Detroit, Flint and Grand Rapids.
So rigged | 
04.11.2020, 19:54
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden has won the most votes out of any candidate in history, with the former vice president notching over 70 million votes nationwide as of Wednesday afternoon.
Interesting statistic but "so what"?
As the population grows each year then so do the number of votes cast.
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04.11.2020, 19:55
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden has won the most votes out of any candidate in history, with the former vice president notching over 70 million votes nationwide as of Wednesday afternoon.
Interesting statistic but "so what"?
As the population grows each year then so do the number of votes cast. | | | | | Exactly, the same nonsense as Trump saying "more people have jobs than ever before".
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04.11.2020, 20:03
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
Second Trump tweet labelled | 
04.11.2020, 20:05
| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | They get counted last if there are enough to make a difference, otherwise they don't get counted.
Example1: the leader has 200k more votes more, and there are 100k mail votes, thus no need to count them.
Example2: the leader has 20k more votes more, and there are 100k mail votes, thus they need to count them.
Tom | | | | | That's not quite true, all votes are counted -- eventually. I guess you mean that a state can be declared (by the news outlets or by the state's Attorney-General) eve without counting the mailed-in ballots, if there aren't enough of those mail ballots to make a difference.
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04.11.2020, 20:12
| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
Interesting point in the count. Currently, most observers have the Electoral College standing at Biden 227, Trump 213, with 98 Electoral College votes undetermined. If Biden picks up just the states where he is currently in the lead -- Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin and Michigan -- he will end up with 270 Electoral College votes.
The target to win is... 270 votes.
By the way, the Trump campaign has already requested a recount in Wisconsin (they are entitled to this), and filed a suit alleging that their observers have been denied access to watch the opening of some ballots, and they want the count to be halted until their issue is resolved.
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | Explain it to me (really - i don't get it)
Trump has been saying for months that the mail in stuff would be a fraud, a fake, bad, whatever..
It's now come to that, as he said it would - as in it's come down to the mail in votes..
So what's with the mail in votes? Why are they mostly blue? Why did they all get left until the end to count? Is this normal, blue and counted last?
What else is different about mail in votes? | | | | | Some states such as Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan aren't allowed to begin counting their mail-in ballots until election day, which is one reason why their final count is taking so long. Trump has been telling his supporters for months to not vote by mail, so that could explain why so many mail-in votes are going toward Biden. However, Pennsylvania is still showing to be in Trump's favor. But also, I think the mail-in voting system has caused more people to vote this time around because it's easier than having to take time off of work and stand in line at the polls, etc. https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/...ail-in-voting/ | Quote: | |  | | | Are the mail in vote verifiable? Linked to a real person? Or is it just a big bag of voting papers with an X in a box ?
If they are verified then there's not much case to answer? | | | | | People receive a ballot in the mail with their name on it as well as their address. And yes, they are each linked to a real person and verified. Here is a pretty good article that explains how the process works: https://www.phillymag.com/news/2020/...-instructions/
I found it interesting when I read in there that "in 2016, nearly one-quarter of U.S. votes were cast by mail." | The following 2 users would like to thank Pancakes for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
It looks like they're beginning to finalize the vote in Wisconsin (for Biden). I just checked the map and see that it is now turning dark blue. So this would give Biden another 10 electoral votes, putting it at
Biden: 237
Trump: 213 |
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