This is really not a good look! More fuel for the lawyers

https://twitter.com/ppollingnumbers/...78982272434177

Jonathan Pie, you're a winner every time.

Some more news from Georgia. A judge has just dismissed the Trump/GOP claim that approx. 50 ballots were counted in Georgia that arrived late.

Ga. Republican Party, President Trump’s campaign files lawsuit against Chatham Co. Board of Elections over absentee ballots

Although this tweet was labelled as misleading by Twitter I am posting it here because we have the unusual situation of Donny quoting the #Fakenews media to support his case

Will be difficult for Donny to prove fraud without evidence.

A new batch of results from Nevada shows Biden expanding his lead from about 7,600 votes to about 12,000 votes, with 87% of the estimated total votes reported.

About as exciting as watching paint dry...

Indeed unbelievable how slow this now is. And then they talk about overseas and military votes that might not be in for another 10 days.

Trump is officially insane. You.Just.Could.Not.Make.This.Up.



This was not a tweet from Trump. It was an all-caps, officially issued statement.

Panic, anyone?

JOBS, JOBS, JOBS. Trump is a moron.

Wooooo, the best unemployment figures since... seven months ago.

Video of Laura Ingraham and the former House Speaker Newt F. Gingrich effectively calling for an overturn of the election because "the people aren't gonna take it".

https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/st...92716302721024

Steve Schmidt called her "America's Eva Braun today

Apparently, they're unable to grasp what the term "the people" really means.

I remember when Trump 'won' in 2016, he and so many of his supporters were trying to accuse the left of "crying like babies" about it (that's literally the term they were using), and yet in truth, no one on the left was really throwing a tantrum about it -- even despite the fact that Hillary Clinton had won the popular vote. I think we were just all just shocked more than anything else. But no one was really trying to overturn the election. And now here we are, with the tables being turned, and Trump and so many of his supporters are "crying like babies" and trying to undermine democracy because they're not getting their way. But I think we all know that if the mail-in ballots were working in Trump's favor, he would be cheering them on.

Sorry, huge multi-quote coming.

Mostly said up thread but to summarize: Mail-in votes are often processed at the same time as in-person votes, but they take a lot longer by nature. The signature (and sometimes witness) must be verified. The outer envelope is then opened and the inner secrecy sleeve/envelope removed. If there's only a ballot without the secrecy sleeve/envelope, it is set aside to be dealt with later. Some states will count ballots not in a sleeve, some won't.

Eventually ballots are fed into the counting machines. Sometimes a machine jams because a ballot was folded wrongly or whatever. If a ballot is damaged or the machine doesn't count it properly, then the ballot has to be "remade". Two election officials, one D and one R, copy the votes on to a blank ballot and feed the remade ballot into the machine. The original ballot is definitely marked and set aside; I seem to recall the remade ballot is marked with election worker initials or something so it can be found later.

In-person voting: Person marks the paper and feeds it into the machine. If it's jammed/warped/whatever, they can redo the ballot themselves right away.

Emphasis mine. As 22y said, this bit is not true. All ballots received by the deadline and verified as legal are counted, regardless of the margins.

Yes, every mail-in vote is verifiable, perhaps with the exception of ND. Every state except North Dakota has a statewide voter database. This database is updated when a ballot is sent, when it's received, and whether it was counted or rejected. All ballot envelopes have a voter name and address. Most also have a barcode that makes scanning easier.

Aside from states that have all-mail voting (which are only a handful), there is a paper voter request that can be matched up to each mail-in ballot.

This. News outlets try to be the first to "call" a race. If you like to follow, NYT has a handy chart:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...l-tracker.html

They can't request a recount officially/legally until after the results are certified by the Elections Commission. That happens after municipalities and counties canvass/certify, and could be as late as 10 Nov. Lawsuits they can file whatever they want, doesn't mean the suit has merit. I believe the recount rules are similar in other states.

Excellent post by Mitch Albom (author of famous book Tuesdays with Morrie) here:
https://eu.freep.com/story/sports/co...on/6102179002/

States could implement term limits using state statutes that govern how reps to their own state houses and Washington are elected. But they won't, because it means they might not keep their jobs. Voters mostly keep voting in the same politicians over and over anyway, because a more senior senator/rep = good for my district. McConnell was first elected in 1985. Pelosi was first elected in 1987. Both have been re-elected their respective district every election since. McConnell is 78 and Pelosi is 80.

Faithless electors go both ways. In the last election, Clinton lost 5 votes and Trump lost two. Pancakes covered some of it but there's more here too:
https://fortune.com/2020/11/04/2020-...ump-biden-270/

You're not totally wrong. Part of the reason the EC exists is because the founding fathers weren't sure voters actually knew what was good for them.

Faithless electors are few and far between and have never changed an election result (yet). See above article.

So... flammable, then?

Hmmm...https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...um+after+trump

Well, of course people were upset, and that manifested in various ways. But if I recall, the left wasn't trying to overthrow the election because of it, and that was my point. The right was calling liberals "cry babies" for being upset when Trump won -- and he didn't win the popular vote -- and now that Trump might be losing, they're doing exactly what they were accusing liberals of but in a much more aggressive manner, going so far as to try to invalidate the democratic process and threaten to try to overturn the election.

Georgia has about 42,000 ballots left to count, the state's voting system implementation manager, Gabriel Sterling, said during a news briefing this afternoon.

With 98% of the estimated vote total reported, Trump leads in Georgia by about 13,000 votes, according to the AP.

So if 2/3 of those ballots go to Biden, he'll win GA by 1000 votes.

Down to the wire.

They're just cold.

you have a very selective memory.

What about Jill Stein?

What about all the talk of "not my president"?

Large chunks of the left NEVER accepted the result.

I think you're missing my point. The left was not trying to invalidate votes that went to Trump, and I don't recall Hillary Clinton trying to take it to court in order to try to overturn the election. There is a difference between being upset about the results of an election and literally trying to overturn an election and interfere with the results by trying to deem votes that go to one's opponent as being invalid.

I wonder what would happen if Biden won and Trump refused to recognise the win and refused to hand over power.