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12.08.2020, 18:13
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | I think/hope ! harris is not that stupid to bring religion into this | | | | | Why would she? Let’s face it he will find a good reason to cancel it. He’ll send his ‘mother’ instead.
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12.08.2020, 18:13
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | Seems the Trump family is impressed by Kamala! | | | | |
She could be a VP candidate for both and double her chances to become president.
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12.08.2020, 18:58
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
Hey, has anyone asked her for her birth certificate? Non American born parents, spend years (possibly decades) in a foreign country (Montreal). Very Suspicious if you ask me. She could be a Chinese spy as they have those in Canada.
If my Sarcasm can’t be detected above, I assure you it is there.
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12.08.2020, 19:16
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | I don't think those accusations were real to begin with. I think she knows that too, otherwise she wouldn't have accepted. | | | | | That doesn't make it any better.
Either she lied or was mistaken when she made the accusations, in which case the least she owes Biden is a public apology, or she has agreed to shut up, in which case she is putting her career before the truth.
Neither is a pretty message for the millions of people in America who were genuinely victims of sexual abuse, and who maybe think the old white men in Washington aren't doing enough about it.
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12.08.2020, 19:37
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | I can’t help but that choice swings things into President Trumps favour a little. The threat of applying the 25th Amendment to Joe Biden could be too big to stomach for many voters! Also, not much to offer the independents and “anyone but Trump” Republicans. | | | | | If the 25th was never invoked with Trump then it also won't be with Biden. | Quote: | |  | | | Presuming Biden makes it as far as November. | | | | | I think he will, he often appears frail but what person who is 78 doesn't at times? | Quote: | |  | | | now here we have a good republican ,he should have run for president. | | | | | Kasich did run for president in 2016. And lost to Trump in the primaries. | Quote: | |  | | | Is not the time for Democrats to win...Republicans still have one more term...Clinton has two terms...Bush has two terms...Obama has two terms...now its time for Trump to have his two terms...Democrats have to wait for the time to the 'table'...for feeding... | | | | | Says who? The voters get to decide every four years. While recent presidents have mostly been voted for two terms, it's not a guaranteed thing by law or any stretch of the imagination. | Quote: | |  | | | ... Hilary Clinton lost an election for much the same reason. | | | | | I disagree. She lost because she acted entitled to the job and didn't take Trump or his supporters seriously. She largely ignored swing states in the Midwest, assuming she had them wrapped up without effort. She had too much baggage and bitterness from her run against Obama. Many voters who would normally vote democrat simply stayed home, partly because they didn't like her but partly because they figured she'd win anyway. | The following 5 users would like to thank 3Wishes for this useful post: | | 
12.08.2020, 19:48
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | That doesn't make it any better.
Either she lied or was mistaken when she made the accusations, in which case the least she owes Biden is a public apology, or she has agreed to shut up, in which case she is putting her career before the truth.
Neither is a pretty message for the millions of people in America who were genuinely victims of sexual abuse, and who maybe think the old white men in Washington aren't doing enough about it. | | | | | It was not supposed to make anything better.
My opinion is still the same - that he chose her as his VP because of her competence and that is admirable considering their differences on more issues not just one. Your opinion is because she might have agreed to shut up and he is/could be blackmailed, fair enough, that is your opinion not mine.
I think whatever she had to say she already said back then.
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12.08.2020, 20:11
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | A woman who accused him of being a predator gets to be his VP?
And she gets to shut up about the accusations?
You man that could be blackmail? | | | | | I need my tin foil hat for this one!
You really believe Kamala has secret evidence about Biden that she can use to blackmail him?
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12.08.2020, 20:29
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: |  | | | If the 25th was never invoked with Trump then it also won't be with Biden. | | | | | It wasn’t with Reagan either.
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12.08.2020, 20:43
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | I need my tin foil hat for this one!
You really believe Kamala has secret evidence about Biden that she can use to blackmail him? | | | | | But of course, what else could propel her into a VP's chair.... | Quote: | |  | | | Hey, has anyone asked her for her birth certificate? Non American born parents, spend years (possibly decades) in a foreign country (Montreal). Very Suspicious if you ask me. She could be a Chinese spy as they have those in Canada.
. | | | | | Oh yeah, that too!
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12.08.2020, 21:06
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | Seems the Trump family is impressed by Kamala! | | | | | Lol that is hilarious. Orange monster will curse that day seeing that the internet never forgets (he'll probably do so on Twitter)
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
The daggers are out and Harris is being thoroughly examined with any flaws being posted on FB, Twitter and the opinion pages of newspapers. She's going to need some tough skin to get through this.
I still like her.
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12.08.2020, 21:28
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
Biden picking Harris as his VP has essentially guaranteed Trump to win again.
Biden has alienated a large portion of the Left as Harris' record as a prosecutor is abysmal. A few examples being withholding exculpatory for a black man she prosecuted who was on death row, and over 1500 prison sentences for personal marijuana users, many of whom were from the black and minority communities.
The Left currently have a big campaign saying Black lives matter and "All Cops are #astards", now Biden chooses a prosecutor who stands for the complete opposite to what many on the Left are campaigning for. Meanwhile on the Trump side, Trump has done more for prison reform than anyone in living memory.
Trump will win a landslide.
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12.08.2020, 21:34
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
There is a terrible echo in here.
And no he won’t.
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | There is a terrible echo in here.
And no he won’t. | | | | | I wasnt able to edit the post to include the word *evidence.
Bet you said he wont in 2016 too.
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | Either she lied or was mistaken when she made the accusations, in which case the least she owes Biden is a public apology, or she has agreed to shut up, in which case she is putting her career before the truth.
. | | | | | I meant the sexual allegations against Biden which as far as I read were made by several women or are you trying to imply it was Kamala accusing him of sexual misconduct? Very confusing, what do you mean.
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | Biden picking Harris as his VP has essentially guaranteed Trump to win again.
Biden has alienated a large portion of the Left as Harris' record as a prosecutor is abysmal. A few examples being withholding exculpatory for a black man she prosecuted who was on death row, and over 1500 prison sentences for personal marijuana users, many of whom were from the black and minority communities.
The Left currently have a big campaign saying Black lives matter and "All Cops are #astards", now Biden chooses a prosecutor who stands for the complete opposite to what many on the Left are campaigning for. Meanwhile on the Trump side, Trump has done more for prison reform than anyone in living memory.
Trump will win a landslide. | | | | | Yeah, and now all the lefties are going to vote for Trump. Laughable.
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | A woman who accused him of being a predator gets to be his VP?
| | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | That doesn't make it any better.
Either she lied or was mistaken when she made the accusations, in which case the least she owes Biden is a public apology, or she has agreed to shut up, in which case she is putting her career before the truth.
Neither is a pretty message for the millions of people in America who were genuinely victims of sexual abuse, and who maybe think the old white men in Washington aren't doing enough about it. | | | | | She didn't accuse him of being a predator. This is what she had said about Biden in regard to the women who had said that Biden had made them uncomfortable:
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"I believe them and I respect them being able to tell their story and having the courage to do it," Harris said at a presidential campaign event in Nevada.
The California senator added that Biden will need to decide for himself whether to run for president.
"He's going to have to make that decision for himself. I wouldn’t tell him what to do," Harris said.
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As a woman herself, and as a past district attorney who had once defended rape victims, Harris may have felt a sense of obligation to give some degree of credit to the allegations, rather than to instinctively dismiss them as being false (which, in my opinion, is completely understandable). Wouldn't it be more eyebrow-raising if she had just instinctively NOT believed those women?
I think you can simultaneously believe that the women felt uncomfortable AND that Biden had innocent intentions (or none at all) with whatever he did. As an example, a guy could put his hand on my shoulder without there being anything sexual at all about it, in regard to his intentions, but if I didn't like the guy or thought he was just creepy in general, then I would perceive his hand on my shoulder as making me uncomfortable; whereas if someone who I did not think was creepy did the exact same thing, it would not make me uncomfortable at all.
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | There is a terrible echo in here.
And no he won’t. | | | | | What odds are you giving?
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | Yeah, and now all the lefties are going to vote for Trump. Laughable. | | | | | I certainly know several who will.
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| | Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got? | Quote: | |  | | | She didn't accuse him of being a predator. This is what she had said about Biden in regard to the women who had said that Biden had made them uncomfortable:
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