Trump or Biden .Who you got? - Page 157

robBob · #**3121** 26.11.2020, 20:58

	Quote:	greenmount
	Who wouldn't want a permanently banned user return under a new(ish) disguise? Definitely not a mod.

Omi was banned? !!! When did that happen? Where was I?

marton · #**3122** 27.11.2020, 00:24

Gets bizarre

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	Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf and other state officials assailed a Pittsburgh judge for issuing what they described as an unprecedented order halting additional steps in the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s election victory. “Since the birth of our nation nearly 250 years ago, no court has ever issued an order purporting to interfere with a state’s ascertainment of its presidential electors -- until today,” state officials said in an appeal filed shortly after Commonwealth Court Judge Patricia McCullough’s Wednesday ruling in a lawsuit brought by Pennsylvania Republicans. “There is no conceivable justification for the lower court’s issuance of such an order in this case.” It’s unclear exactly what further steps in the process can be delayed, but the plaintiffs suggested there were several including the assembly of electors. The Electoral College vote doesn’t take place until Dec. 14.

Source might be behind a paywall.

More evidence-free time-wasting.

marton · #**3123** 27.11.2020, 09:36

Is the law of unintended consequences striking again?

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	President Donald Trump’s demonization of mail-in voting may have cost him votes in the recent election. Now, his demonization of Georgia’s entire electoral system is hurting his party’s chances at keeping the Senate. Driven by Trump’s insistence that Georgia’s elections are indelibly rife with fraud, conspiratorial MAGA figures are calling for a boycott of the two Senate runoff races, slated for Jan. 5, that will determine which party controls the upper chamber. Their reason: The two GOP candidates, Sens. Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue, are not only insufficiently pro-Trump, they may be complicit in Georgia’s electoral fraud. It doesn’t matter that both candidates are essentially lock-step with Trump, or that there is no evidence of links to electoral malfeasance. On Twitter and its less-restrictive alternative Parler, Trump’s more hardline followers have linked the duo to the president’s favorite — and untrue — voter-fraud theories. Hashtags like #CrookedPerdue and #CrookedKelly are flying around. The two lawmakers’ Parler accounts are brimming with posts accusing them of being secret “liberal DemoRats.”

Source

All amusing Friday stuff but how many of these people are actually Georgia voters and will boycott the election is anybody's guess.

Parler seems to be moving from the happy playground where nobody's posts are labelled or banned into an alt-right battleground where different factions have free play.

marton · #**3124** 28.11.2020, 11:26

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	Leading the President's team in PA is Rudy Giuliani, who entered the federal case last week. The lawsuit was rejected last Saturday, when a lower court judge called it "Frankenstein's monster" for its poorly stitched together legal theories. Giuliani then appealed and was dismissed yesterday in equally scathing terms. "The Campaign never alleges that any ballot was fraudulent or cast by an illegal voter" "Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here," wrote Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, for the appeal panel. "The Campaign's claims have no merit" "The Campaign cannot win this lawsuit, it conceded that it is not alleging election fraud."

Source

Jenna Ellis, an attorney for Trump's campaign, said on Twitter following the ruling that "the activist judicial machinery in Pennsylvania continues to cover up the allegations of massive fraud," and pledged to take the case to the Supreme Court.

All bullshit while lawyers are unable to stand up in court and allege fraud without evidence so their election cases are fatally flawed, it is like something out of Monty Python.

bowlie · #**3125** 28.11.2020, 12:20

	Quote:	marton
	Source Jenna Ellis, an attorney for Trump's campaign, said on Twitter following the ruling that "the activist judicial machinery in Pennsylvania continues to cover up the allegations of massive fraud," and pledged to take the case to the Supreme Court. All bullshit while lawyers are unable to stand up in court and allege fraud without evidence so their election cases are fatally flawed, it is like something out of Monty Python.

Why would the Supreme Court take this? There is no constitutional law question. And even the Three Trump Appointees (TTA) understand that any case has to show the plaintiff suffered damage as a result of proven illegal activity. With no proven illegal activity Q.E.D goodbye White House, Hello some New York Prison.

komsomolez · #**3126** 28.11.2020, 23:23

Hilarious. The Trump campaign paid 3 million for a recount that adds 132 votes to Biden's count.

https://amp.jsonline.com/amp/6428186...mpression=true

greenmount · #**3127** 29.11.2020, 02:20

	Quote:	robBob
	Omi was banned? !!! When did that happen? Where was I?

Yeah, I found out late too.....as for when maybe you should ask a mod (we can only guess the why)? Have no idea, I guess I won't miss him that much.....lol.

22 yards · #**3128** 29.11.2020, 03:20

	Quote:	greenmount
	Yeah, I found out late too.....as for when maybe you should ask a mod (we can only guess the why)? Have no idea, I guess I won't miss him that much.....lol.

He was banned three months ago. If you search for any banned user's name, you'll find the date and duration of the ban, the reason for the ban, and the name of the moderator who banned the user.

marton · #**3129** 29.11.2020, 11:52

Last Thursday a Pittsburgh judge issued an unprecedented order halting additional steps in the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s election victory.
The lawsuit from US Rep. Mike Kelly and other Republicans tried to invalidate absentee voting and block the certification of votes in recent weeks.
The lawsuit claimed the law passed a year ago by the GOP led legislature that made absentee voting easier was unconstitutional.

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court dismissed the lawsuit Saturday night and was unanimous in deciding against Kelly and others, refusing to block vote certification on Saturday.
Five of the seven judges wrote that they believed the lawsuit had been filed far too late, a year after absentee voting procedures had been established in the state and weeks after millions of Pennsylvanians voted in good faith.

With the dismissal of around forty of Trump and other GOPs lawsuits against the election result, we seem to be coming to the end of the legal cases. Trump is still tweeting he has the evidence to start new cases but if he has the evidence then why has he not used it?

The first President in almost 30 years to not be reelected and also was impeached; a major loser.

bowlie · #**3130** 29.11.2020, 12:05

This happy-crappy will continue until the Supremes refuse to consider any appeal. And who gets rich? The lawyers ...

marton · #**3131** 29.11.2020, 12:33

	Quote:	bowlie
	This happy-crappy will continue until the Supremes refuse to consider any appeal. And who gets rich? The lawyers ...

Only assuming Trump will actually pay the lawyers

3Wishes · #**3132** 29.11.2020, 17:19

	Quote:	komsomolez
	Hilarious. The Trump campaign paid 3 million for a recount that adds 132 votes to Biden's count. https://amp.jsonline.com/amp/6428186...mpression=true

IMO the recount was never about getting enough votes to overturn the result in WI. It was about "finding" all that fraud they could then take to court, delaying as much as possible, and continuing to spread doubt among his loyal followers.

komsomolez · #**3133** 29.11.2020, 17:56

	Quote:	3Wishes
	IMO the recount was never about getting enough votes to overturn the result in WI. It was about "finding" all that fraud they could then take to court, delaying as much as possible, and continuing to spread doubt among his loyal followers.

True. But still funny.

I think a need to watch the presser with Rudy and that crazy woman again.

marton · #**3134** 29.11.2020, 23:20

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	President Donald Trump said on Sunday that it might be difficult to get his election fraud allegations heard before the U.S. Supreme Court, expressing doubt about his legal strategy as his hopes of overturning the Nov. 3 election dwindle. "The problem is it's hard to get it to the Supreme Court," Trump said in a telephone interview with Fox News.

Source

Donny slowly facing the reality.

22 yards · #**3135** 30.11.2020, 05:40

	Quote:	marton
	Source Donny slowly facing the reality.

It's pretty much impossible to get it to the Supreme Court. A case involving electoral fraud would have to be heard and lost before it could be appealed, possibly directly to the Supreme Court due to the time constraints. But none of Trump's lawsuits have actually been heard. They have been so bereft of little things like EVIDENCE, relevance, and reason, that judges have been dismissing the cases -- i.e. refusing even to hear them.

Even in the highly unlikely event that one of Trump's cases were to be heard and lost (that's not the unlikely part), it would still need to be accepted for hearing by the Supreme Court and they would have to have an entirely different majority opinion than every other judge in the country, so it seems.

Trump is off with the fairies if he thinks that Supreme Court judges are going to besmirch their reputations to deliver a partisan vote on this issue.

marton · #**3136** 30.11.2020, 09:50

Trump's legal team reach new levels of incompetence.

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Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
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GREAT NEWS!
Is Fake News@60Minutes watching this?

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	General Flynn@GenFlynn · 11h #TeamKraken wins a major injunction. Judge Batten issues an order to freeze all dominion machines in GA. The devil may have gone down to GA, but it is light that shines bright today.

It is true the injunction was issued.
"#TeamKraken" had sued the GA state officials.
Problem is that they do not own those Dominion machines, they belong to the county officials who are not part of the state organisation so the injunction had to be cancelled.

marton · #**3137** 30.11.2020, 16:33

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	President-elect Joe Biden’s favorability ratings are up since the election, while President Trump’s dipped slightly during the same period, according to new polling from Gallup. The survey found Biden’s approval rating at 55 percent, his highest since last February, two months before he announced his candidacy. His rating is now 6 points higher than just before the election. Trump’s approval rating, meanwhile, is at 42 percent, down 3 points from before the election. Trump never scored more than 49% in Gallup polls. Republicans' approval for the former vice president rose from 6 points to 12 percent.

Good for Biden

Edit; Donald Trump has been losing Twitter followers since he lost the presidential election to Joe Biden – while the Democratic president-elect has been adding them.

According to Factbase, a website dedicated to tracking Trump’s public utterances, the president has lost 133,902 followers since 17 November while the president-elect has gained 1,156,610.

Ato · #**3138** 30.11.2020, 16:47

	Quote:	marton
	Good for Biden

Break a leg as they say.

greenmount · #**3139** 30.11.2020, 19:01

	Quote:	robBob
	Omi was banned? !!! When did that happen? Where was I?

	Quote:	22 yards
	He was banned three months ago. If you search for any banned user's name, you'll find the date and duration of the ban, the reason for the ban, and the name of the moderator who banned the user.

@robBob, are you happy with 22yards' answer?

Which stage of "grief" are you in? Hope you'll get better soon....

marton · #**3140** 01.12.2020, 13:44

Interesting sidenote on the Presidential election in Georgia

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	Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has said that last month some 24,000 Republicans who voted absentee in the state’s June primary did not cast a ballot in the general election, a difference that would have been more than enough to hand Trump a win in Georgia. “They did not vote absentee, because they were told by the president ‘Do not vote absentee, it’s not secure.’ But then they did not come out and vote in person,” Raffensperger said in an interview with WSB-TV in Atlanta. “He would have won by 10,000 votes. He actually depressed, suppressed his own voting base.”

LOL!