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Old 02.12.2020, 14:26
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If Donald Trump's 2016 victory had been accepted with good grace, then the Dems would be justified in denouncing the claims the election was stolen. As it is, Trump and his supporters are just using the playbook that the Dems created.
My memory (and the Internet) paints a VERY different picture: Hillary Clinton conceded in the middle of the night after election day (Nov. 9th, shortly after midnight), and Obama formally invited Trump to the White House to discuss transition of power the day after that. Source: CNN.
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Old 02.12.2020, 14:27
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There's no evidence that Russian interference changed the outcome of the 2016 election. I'm certain that there will be evidence found of electoral fraud, also very unlikely to be on a scale to influence the result.

If Donald Trump's 2016 victory had been accepted with good grace, then the Dems would be justified in denouncing the claims the election was stolen. As it is, Trump and his supporters are just using the playbook that the Dems created.

Brexit was decided by a similar margin to this election, if the last four and half years years of Brexit have taught us anything it's that telling people to shut up and get over it doesn't tend to have the desired effect. We can look forward to four more years in US politics of the same!
Nevertheless, I tell you "to shut up and get over it".

More TC nonsense in "If Donald Trump's 2016 victory had been accepted with good grace". It was accepted with good grace.
"Hillary Clinton congratulated Donald Trump on his win in the middle of the night after election day on Nov. 8, 2016. She formally conceded before noon on Nov. 9."
Do stop trying to pervert history.

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Old 02.12.2020, 14:32
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My memory (and the Internet) paints a VERY different picture: Hillary Clinton conceded in the middle of the night after election day (Nov. 9th, shortly after midnight), and Obama formally invited Trump to the White House to discuss transition of power the day after that. Source: CNN.
Yes, but it's what came after that that set the precedent for what we're seeing today. Once they'd gotten over the shell shock, the grasping at straws for an excuse began. The result of this was RUSSIA!
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Old 02.12.2020, 14:40
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There's no evidence that Russian interference changed the outcome of the 2016 election. I'm certain that there will be evidence found of electoral fraud, also very unlikely to be on a scale to influence the result.

If Donald Trump's 2016 victory had been accepted with good grace, then the Dems would be justified in denouncing the claims the election was stolen. As it is, Trump and his supporters are just using the playbook that the Dems created.

Brexit was decided by a similar margin to this election, if the last four and half years years of Brexit have taught us anything it's that telling people to shut up and get over it doesn't tend to have the desired effect. We can look forward to four more years in US politics of the same!
Brexit was not decided by a similar margin to this election, Biden 306 EC votes vs Trump 232; 57% to 43%.

Or are you looking at the popular vote and now claiming Hillary won after all
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Old 02.12.2020, 14:53
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There's no evidence that Russian interference changed the outcome of the 2016 election. I'm certain that there will be evidence found of electoral fraud, also very unlikely to be on a scale to influence the result.

If Donald Trump's 2016 victory had been accepted with good grace, then the Dems would be justified in denouncing the claims the election was stolen. As it is, Trump and his supporters are just using the playbook that the Dems created.
This is absurd.

No one claimed thar votes were messed with, no one doubted the count. No one delayed or sabotaged the transition. Yes, some called Trump "illegitimate" because of not winning the popular vote, and this is a rubbish argument as this is the electoral process. There is no proof that Russian interference changed the outcome, but it is clear they intervened pro-Trump and the electoral college was decided by 77k votes in total.
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Old 02.12.2020, 15:05
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Yes, but it's what came after that that set the precedent for what we're seeing today. Once they'd gotten over the shell shock, the grasping at straws for an excuse began. The result of this was RUSSIA!
Stop rewriting history, the investigation into Trump's alleged collusion with Russia was by Trump's own DOJ, not the Dems.

In May 2017, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointed Mueller as a Special Counsel - long after Trump's inauguration.
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This is absurd.

No one claimed thar votes were messed with, no one doubted the count. No one delayed or sabotaged the transition. Yes, some called Trump "illegitimate" because of not winning the popular vote, and this is a rubbish argument as this is the electoral process. There is no proof that Russian interference changed the outcome, but it is clear they intervened pro-Trump and the electoral college was decided by 77k votes in total.
It's not absurd at all to make the comparison, if you can't see that then there is little point in discussing this further. That's where we're at now, it's not even that people can't agree on the truth, people can't even agree on reality anymore.

Four more years of this to look forward to
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Old 02.12.2020, 15:07
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It's not absurd at all to make the comparison, if you can't see that then there is little point in discussing this further. That's where we're at now, it's not even that people can't agree on the truth, people can't even agree on reality anymore.

Four more years of this to look forward to
I made the comparison.
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Re: Dominion insider blows whistle on voter fraud.

It needed to be said...



The amount of lunacy going on is incredible.

EDIT - And holy **** look at Trumps "star witness" of the Dominion fraud conspiracy testifying... she is insane. Maniacal.



The Trump camp has truly gone off the deep end...

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Old 03.12.2020, 09:54
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EDIT - And holy **** look at Trumps "star witness" of the Dominion fraud conspiracy testifying... she is insane. Maniacal.
I'm not sure if she's drunk or just naturally stupid. She seriously comes across as thought she was sneaking some vodka in the bathroom before the hearing. She's incapable of having a calm, rational, intelligent conversation; and of course, as expected, she also tried to play the victim.

One has to wonder just how much Trump and his campaign are willing to pay people to invent fraud stories.

Lost your job because of COVID? The economy got you down? We have the answer! Sign up now to be a fraud conspiracy theory testimony witness and you can earn up to $500 per week AND as a sign-on bonus, you can get on national television!
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Old 03.12.2020, 10:50
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As much as I am dismayed at the state of the US, watching the remaining somewhat sane republicans struggle to deal with the malignantly stupid conspiratorial wing of the republican party that they helped create is pretty satisfying.
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

I don't take seriously claims of being shocked or dismayed with the state of the US republic. You should have been dismayed for the last 25 years , during the 'glorious' administrations of Clinton, Bushs, Obama. The utter corruption of two-party tyranny has been destroying the country with a complete disregard for the plight of their constituents.
All this rehearsed outrage and theatrical fainting in the age of Trump is grotesque and pathetic posturing.
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Old 03.12.2020, 22:25
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Trump's legal farce keeps crashing and burning.
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Wisconsin's top court turned away a lawsuit from President Trump that sought to have the state's election results decertified, yet another blow to Trump's long-shot legal efforts to undo President-elect Joe Biden's victory.

The Wisconsin Supreme Court said on Thursday that the lawsuit filed this week would be best suited for one of the state's lower courts.

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court on Thursday refused to halt its previous ruling rejecting a last-ditch GOP bid to prevent further action on the certification of the 2020 election results in the state.
The new self-defeating "Kraken" strategy to try to leapfrog lower courts by filing in higher ones is also failing.
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It needed to be said...



The amount of lunacy going on is incredible.

EDIT - And holy **** look at Trumps "star witness" of the Dominion fraud conspiracy testifying... she is insane. Maniacal.



The Trump camp has truly gone off the deep end...
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Biden's been turned into an elf!

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Biden's been turned into an elf!

I always had that impression.
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Old 04.12.2020, 23:32
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

President-elect Joe Biden's margin over President Donald Trump in the nationwide popular vote is now more than 7 million votes and may continue to grow as several states continue counting votes.
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President-elect Joe Biden's margin over President Donald Trump in the nationwide popular vote is now more than 7 million votes and may continue to grow as several states continue counting votes.
I hope Joe lives long enough to see them finally finish the count
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I hope Joe lives long enough to see them finally finish the count
He should do if he stops playing with his dog!
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