Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Off-Topic > Off-Topic > International affairs/politics  
View Poll Results: Who will win the US election?
Trump/Pence 11 52.38%
Biden/Harris 10 47.62%
Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #301  
Old 15.08.2020, 11:40
curley's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canton ZH
Posts: 12,593
Groaned at 206 Times in 171 Posts
Thanked 14,389 Times in 7,438 Posts
curley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Quote:
View Post
And Kamala sleeping with someone, or Biden being overly "touchy", is worse than Trump raping and assaulting multiple women over the years and yet still becoming president? Any chance you can talk about that or is it basically "anything goes for the people whose politics you agree with", when it comes to your morality? Or your, erm... utter immorality, I mean.
Has Trump ever been sentenced for rape?
I don't like the guy but even in Switzerland freedom of speech is limited.
The following 2 users would like to thank curley for this useful post:
  #302  
Old 15.08.2020, 12:09
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: SG
Posts: 8,894
Groaned at 456 Times in 339 Posts
Thanked 11,785 Times in 6,144 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Quote:
View Post
I find it pathetic that this mentality continues: "Any woman who is successful must have slept her way to the top, but any man who is successful did it on his own merits".
MeToo
The following 6 users would like to thank Urs Max for this useful post:
  #303  
Old 15.08.2020, 12:21
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 10,554
Groaned at 470 Times in 403 Posts
Thanked 19,349 Times in 10,216 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Over a year ago AG Barr appointed prosecutor Durham to investigate Trump's claims that the Russian investigation was somehow a criminal affair targeting Trump led by Obama, FBI and CIA.

Now Durham has announced a criminal charge against a low-level FBI lawyer. Sometimes they target low-level people to do a deal to obtain information against more senior people. Seems unlikely in this case as the lawyer has said he will plead guilty.

So far the Durham investigation looks like a damp squib using a battle tank to crush an ant.

Meanwhile the conservative group Judicial Watch has been trying to revive the Hillary email business but the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled, 3-0, against them.

Quote:
“Secretary Clinton … provided eleven hours of public testimony before the House Select Committee, and has answered countless media inquiries on the matter,” wrote DC Judge Wilkins, an appointee of President Barack Obama.
“These facts underscore both the impropriety of the District Court’s Order and the appropriateness of turning the page on the issue.”
__________________
It is naive to assume my posts are my own work
This user would like to thank marton for this useful post:
  #304  
Old 15.08.2020, 13:39
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 10,554
Groaned at 470 Times in 403 Posts
Thanked 19,349 Times in 10,216 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Quote:
View Post
But she did
The positive side of the nonsense attacks on Harris is they push evermore women voters from Trump to Biden.

The latest Fox News poll published yesterday had Biden 12 points ahead of Trump among women voters.
This user groans at marton for this post:
  #305  
Old 15.08.2020, 18:02
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Nyon
Posts: 4,820
Groaned at 242 Times in 176 Posts
Thanked 6,534 Times in 3,080 Posts
bowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Well then. I guess that the only child of DJT eligible to follow in his footsteps would be Tiffany. The rest (Don jr., Ivanka, Eric and Barron) are all children of immigrants.

Tiffany?
The following 3 users would like to thank bowlie for this useful post:
  #306  
Old 15.08.2020, 19:53
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Frick, Aargau
Posts: 2,492
Groaned at 50 Times in 44 Posts
Thanked 3,365 Times in 1,622 Posts
HickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Quote:
View Post
The positive side of the nonsense attacks on Harris is they push evermore women voters from Trump to Biden.

The latest Fox News poll published yesterday had Biden 12 points ahead of Trump among women voters.
That's the same lead Clinton had over Trump....

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...der-education/
The following 2 users would like to thank HickvonFrick for this useful post:
  #307  
Old 15.08.2020, 20:33
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Quote:
View Post
True that.

Someone even made a song about it, Smoking Water or sumpting.
Makes a change from what Ritchie Blackmore usually smoked in the early 70s.
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #308  
Old 15.08.2020, 20:54
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Quote:
View Post
There are stories/accusations that she did sleep her way to the top.
Quote:
View Post
But she did
Are you talking about Willie Brown? The guy who was single (separated for 13 years from his wife) when he openly started a relationship (which was frequently reported on) with Kamala Harris, a relationship that lasted over a year and ended when Brown decided to go back to his wife when he won the mayoralty of San Francisco? Brown appointed her to a couple of commissions in California -- something he did for a lot of friends and acquaintances, perhaps not the best look, but certainly nothing new (Ronny Jackson for Secretary of Veterans Affairs, anyone?). But Harris won her first political election (San Francisco DA) in 2003, more than eight years after her relationship with Brown ended.

So no, she didn't have an extramarital affair with Brown (you didn't suggest that, but the Tea Party did), and she didn't benefit politically from her relationship with him. Or do you have some other gossip for us?
The following 6 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #309  
Old 15.08.2020, 22:08
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 10,554
Groaned at 470 Times in 403 Posts
Thanked 19,349 Times in 10,216 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Quote:
View Post
That's the same lead Clinton had over Trump....

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...der-education/
Really great news, a male candidate with the same lead in women voters as Hillary.
Thanks.
This user would like to thank marton for this useful post:
  #310  
Old 15.08.2020, 23:37
curley's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canton ZH
Posts: 12,593
Groaned at 206 Times in 171 Posts
Thanked 14,389 Times in 7,438 Posts
curley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

So this is really it? The Americans have only the choice between Trump and Biden .... or of course to shut up?

Why would I not feel being taken seriously if I were an American?

However, time to move all this geriatric gear and staff into the White House. And hope these boys have health insurance (as it's not standard in the US ) or the next four years are gonna be even more expensive than normally for the US-taxpayers (oh, that's many of you folks, eih? Hope you're all still on 120K+ per year then.)
__________________
It Ain’t What You Don’t Know That Gets You Into Trouble. It’s What You Know for Sure That Just Ain’t So
  #311  
Old 16.08.2020, 06:01
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Zurich
Posts: 13,254
Groaned at 1,184 Times in 785 Posts
Thanked 19,117 Times in 7,416 Posts
Chuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Hah this is genius! One of many brutal videos on this adminstration... https://www.youtube.com/c/TheLincolnProject/videos

  #312  
Old 16.08.2020, 06:22
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Quote:
Are you talking about Willie Brown? The guy who was single (separated for 13 years from his wife) when he openly started a relationship (which was frequently reported on) with Kamala Harris, a relationship that lasted over a year and ended when Brown decided to go back to his wife when he won the mayoralty of San Francisco? Brown appointed her to a couple of commissions in California -- something he did for a lot of friends and acquaintances, perhaps not the best look, but certainly nothing new (Ronny Jackson for Secretary of Veterans Affairs, anyone?). But Harris won her first political election (San Francisco DA) in 2003, more than eight years after her relationship with Brown ended.

So no, she didn't have an extramarital affair with Brown (you didn't suggest that, but the Tea Party did), and she didn't benefit politically from her relationship with him. Or do you have some other gossip for us?
So let's forget about how Kamala "got" there - and sorry, 22 Yards, from what I have read, "Slick Willie" and their relationship played a part in her rise politically. During their relationship, she gained three significant appointments in a very short time from Willie (The California Medical Commission in 1994, The California Unemployment Appeals Board - even more money! - and finally, The California Medical Assistance Commission - despite having no medical background).

Instead, let's focus on her completely abysmal campaign for presidency. I defer here to Kimberly Strassel of the Wall Street Journal who writes well; her article on Kamala's nomination as VP may be behind a paywall but I will attach a link (PS..google Strassel and Kamala Harris and one should be able to should gain access if my link does not work).

https://www.wsj.com/articles/kamala-...gn-11597360619
The following 2 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #313  
Old 16.08.2020, 07:10
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Zurich
Posts: 13,254
Groaned at 1,184 Times in 785 Posts
Thanked 19,117 Times in 7,416 Posts
Chuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Quote:
View Post
So let's forget about how Kamala "got" there - and sorry, 22 Yards, from what I have read, "Slick Willie" and their relationship played a part in her rise politically. During their relationship, she gained three significant appointments in a very short time from Willie (The California Medical Commission in 1994, The California Unemployment Appeals Board - even more money! - and finally, The California Medical Assistance Commission - despite having no medical background).

Instead, let's focus on her completely abysmal campaign for presidency. I defer here to Kimberly Strassel of the Wall Street Journal who writes well; her article on Kamala's nomination as VP may be behind a paywall but I will attach a link (PS..google Strassel and Kamala Harris and one should be able to should gain access if my link does not work).

https://www.wsj.com/articles/kamala-...gn-11597360619
So, lets get this straight... you think Kamala, even if she had political advantages from a relationship and ran a bad campaign... is a worse person than Trump? A pathological liar and psycopath who is a known racist and mysoginist, accused of many serious sexual assaults and who has caused many tens of unnecessary thousands of deaths from his erratic bungling of the Coronavirus pandemic? Who attacks basic freedoms and press and is trying to subvert democracy by purposefully damaging the postal services ability to function so that people can engage their right to vote by mail during a pandemic? These are multiple TERRIBLE and HEINOUS things.

I really have to wonder at the levels of rationality of some of the people who post in these threads if they are not able to put these things into any sort of real perspective.
The following 4 users would like to thank Chuff for this useful post:
  #314  
Old 16.08.2020, 07:58
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Nyon
Posts: 4,820
Groaned at 242 Times in 176 Posts
Thanked 6,534 Times in 3,080 Posts
bowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Apparently Mr. Trump believes that if the US adopts universal mail-in voting the US will become the laughingstock of the World.

What absolute and utter Rubbish, the US is already the laughingstock of the world because of him.

Only 5 states use universal voting (where the ballots are sent automatically to all registered voters) and it’s unlikely that any of the others will get their act together in such a short period of time. So they likely will require voters to request an absentee ballot, something every state is capable of doing.

It does suggest that Mr. Trump may know something we don’t know, perhaps that states voting lists are not accurate.

Switzerland has been using universal voting for decades and we are not the world’s laughingstock.
  #315  
Old 16.08.2020, 08:53
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Bern
Posts: 288
Groaned at 199 Times in 106 Posts
Thanked 995 Times in 467 Posts
Full Circle has a reputation beyond reputeFull Circle has a reputation beyond reputeFull Circle has a reputation beyond reputeFull Circle has a reputation beyond reputeFull Circle has a reputation beyond reputeFull Circle has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Quote:
So no, she didn't have an extramarital affair with Brown (you didn't suggest that, but the Tea Party did), and she didn't benefit politically from her relationship with him. Or do you have some other gossip for us?
No other gossip, just the part you mentioned and seem willing to gloss over:

'Brown appointed her to a couple of commissions in California -- something he did for a lot of friends and acquaintances, perhaps not the best look, but certainly nothing new.'
  #316  
Old 16.08.2020, 09:52
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Zurich
Posts: 8,273
Groaned at 294 Times in 223 Posts
Thanked 18,936 Times in 6,603 Posts
k_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Quote:
View Post
So, lets get this straight... you think Kamala, even if she had political advantages from a relationship and ran a bad campaign... is a worse person than Trump?

Did anyone write that Harris is a worse person than Trump?
The following 2 users would like to thank k_and_e for this useful post:
  #317  
Old 16.08.2020, 14:47
3Wishes's Avatar
Moderately Amused
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bern area
Posts: 11,139
Groaned at 86 Times in 82 Posts
Thanked 18,799 Times in 8,378 Posts
3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Quote:
View Post
So this is really it? The Americans have only the choice between Trump and Biden .... or of course to shut up?
In essence, yes. But - If you want to go with wild times in 2020, if either Trump or Biden dies after accepting their party's nomination but before the election then their respective parties would need to choose a new nominee. Logic would dictate that the Rs would choose Pence and the Ds would choose Harris. But this year is anything but normal.

Quote:
View Post
...It does suggest that Mr. Trump may know something we don’t know, perhaps that states voting lists are not accurate.

Switzerland has been using universal voting for decades and we are not the world’s laughingstock.
State voting lists are always inaccurate in the USA, because people move around a lot and don't bother to update information. Women get married or divorced and don't update name changes. State databases do ping against law enforcement and social security, but there are often delays between when the data is entered in one place and when it's compared in the other. Thus why you still have felons and deceased people on the rolls.

There is a new, multi-state partnership of information exchange that helps try and reduce these issues, but it only includes 30 states and the District of Columbia so far. It will be more useful once all states are on board.

In Switzerland, everyone is registered with a municipality, making it easier to keep track of people. There's no central registration of residence in the USA.
  #318  
Old 16.08.2020, 15:29
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Zurich
Posts: 3,624
Groaned at 70 Times in 49 Posts
Thanked 3,794 Times in 2,054 Posts
rainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Quote:
View Post
In essence, yes. But - If you want to go with wild times in 2020, if either Trump or Biden dies after accepting their party's nomination but before the election then their respective parties would need to choose a new nominee. Logic would dictate that the Rs would choose Pence and the Ds would choose Harris. But this year is anything but normal.



State voting lists are always inaccurate in the USA, because people move around a lot and don't bother to update information. Women get married or divorced and don't update name changes. State databases do ping against law enforcement and social security, but there are often delays between when the data is entered in one place and when it's compared in the other. Thus why you still have felons and deceased people on the rolls.

There is a new, multi-state partnership of information exchange that helps try and reduce these issues, but it only includes 30 states and the District of Columbia so far. It will be more useful once all states are on board.

In Switzerland, everyone is registered with a municipality, making it easier to keep track of people. There's no central registration of residence in the USA.
But everybody has a Facebook account.

US is a basketcase.

China and Russia just need to stay put and wait it out before it implodes and then share what is left.
This user would like to thank rainer_d for this useful post:
  #319  
Old 16.08.2020, 16:18
Jack of all trades.'s Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Basel
Posts: 812
Groaned at 21 Times in 14 Posts
Thanked 665 Times in 323 Posts
Jack of all trades. has a reputation beyond reputeJack of all trades. has a reputation beyond reputeJack of all trades. has a reputation beyond reputeJack of all trades. has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

I don`t accept the question because they are both total gits, but OK, I prefer Trump because with a bit of luck with a Trump USA vs China possibly continuing in the future there is the chance that those two will screw each other, stop vampiring the rest of the world and we can go back to a alltogether new normal.
  #320  
Old 16.08.2020, 16:26
Jack of all trades.'s Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Basel
Posts: 812
Groaned at 21 Times in 14 Posts
Thanked 665 Times in 323 Posts
Jack of all trades. has a reputation beyond reputeJack of all trades. has a reputation beyond reputeJack of all trades. has a reputation beyond reputeJack of all trades. has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Quote:
View Post
Did anyone write that Harris is a worse person than Trump?
Give Harris a chance to show her swamp qualities first please. I suppose anyone within the swamp bubble has a chance of turning a new leaf.

What might the chances be? safe odds for any bookie. 0.0000001% is my odds on this 1.

Still, there is a chance that she might be possessed by a demon or something and suddenly turn a new leaf. I have seen leaves like this in the past you know. Yeah I have. after a sydney bush fire years back I saw burnt out leaves falling from the sky...

Last edited by Jack of all trades.; 16.08.2020 at 16:27. Reason: years instead of ears. much better you now, I mean know.
Closed Thread




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New: Trump Jokes Ardneham Jokes/funnies 15 29.01.2021 13:59
How will Trump Presidency End? Jim2007 International affairs/politics 58 11.01.2021 20:38
Will Trump get reelected robBob International affairs/politics 129 02.03.2020 21:15
The New Trump Tax Cuts ToothCentral International affairs/politics 11 05.04.2017 22:14
Will Trump be the next US President? Phil_MCR International affairs/politics 2618 14.11.2016 11:16


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 19:04.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0