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Old 03.01.2021, 20:27
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Donny always finding ever newer lows.
On tape. Trump is dumb as a brick.
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Old 03.01.2021, 21:22
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What is the voting process here? Is a majority vote necessary to accept or reject? Or is a single Senator that can block certification?
Adding to the previous two correct answers: if you're asking about this last-ditch effort to subvert the election results, led by Ted "Macho Beard" Cruz, it is independent from objections to the Electoral College's voter slates. Cruz et al. are seeking a 10-day investigation into alleged voter fraud, and want the final certification of the election result (scheduled for Wednesday) to be postponed till after the investigation is concluded.

Sounds reasonable, except that Trump and his team have had 60 opportunities to present evidence of fraud before the courts and have failed to do so on each and every occasion. And there's no suggestion that new evidence has since come to light, unless you count the tape that clearly demonstrates that Trump tried to induce a senior public official to commit electoral fraud in Georgia on his behalf.

Even Cruz admits that all the Democrats and "more than a few Republicans" will vote against his proposal, so that's doomed as well.

It's all political grandstanding by the jackals snapping at the heels of the mortally wounded lion (or some other animal with a large yellow mane).
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Old 03.01.2021, 22:42
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On tape. Trump is dumb as a brick.
This is crazy. The President of the United States together with his Chief of Staff on tape trying to extort the SoS of a state, arguably breaking federal and state laws on election integrity.

I only hope that this will deter some GOP voters to cast ballots tomorrow.

The GOP will break on Tuesday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...991_video.html
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Old 03.01.2021, 22:59
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He'll get away with it, nothing will happen to him - it never does.
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Old 03.01.2021, 23:05
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This is crazy. The President of the United States together with his Chief of Staff on tape trying to extort the SoS of a state, arguably breaking federal and state laws on election integrity.

I only hope that this will deter some GOP voters to cast ballots tomorrow.

The GOP will break on Tuesday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...991_video.html
Yeah, and it's really just one more example of the way he psychologically projects. In the recording, he is simultaneously saying that there was "faulty reporting" of the election results AND asking for the election results to be changed and reported inaccurately.

The audio recording can also be heard here:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...-election.html

If there was ever anything strong enough to really divide the GOP, it could be this. I only hope that more of them will have the b***s to come forward and admit that Trump is wrong once he's no longer in office, but I won't hold my breath.
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His successor(s) cannot pardon him for a state crime. He should be prosecuted in Georgia.
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Old 04.01.2021, 10:40
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It gets even stranger, US Vice-President Mike Pence says he's welcomed the effort of a group of Senators,
to refuse to certify Biden's presidential election victory.

BBC News - Mike Pence welcomes senators bid to derail the result
Politicians are, of course, politicians but I had always thought, perhaps foolishly, that US Senators were a step above.
Now we have the prospect of a group of such Senators standing up in Congress and supporting fact-free conspiracy theories that have been thrown out in over 60 court cases including by the Federal and several State Supreme Courts. It really makes the banana republics look almost respectable.
Aside from a few rabid Trump cult members who believe every Trump lie these senators should lose their credibility with most people.

Probably more worrying is this Jan 6th planned march in DC where no doubt many gun carrying thugs will turn up to venerate Trump.
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This is crazy. The President of the United States together with his Chief of Staff on tape trying to extort the SoS of a state, arguably breaking federal and state laws on election integrity.

I only hope that this will deter some GOP voters to cast ballots tomorrow.

The GOP will break on Tuesday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...991_video.html
The most important question is , how and from where or whom did this recording of the conversation come from?
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The most important question is , how and from where or whom did this recording of the conversation come from?
How is that the most important question... can you please explain your logic?
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Old 04.01.2021, 11:57
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The most important question is , how and from where or whom did this recording of the conversation come from?

It is totally irrelevant, Trump himself has confirmed it. The fact remains that these people are seeking to deny democracy, with a shred of evidence. It's the kind of behavior that we expect from despot regimes. And any American citizen that is not outraged by this behavior needs to consider their position.



You really think you got the most important question????
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How is that the most important question... can you please explain your logic?
No. I dont intend to explain. If its not obvious thats your Problem
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Old 04.01.2021, 12:28
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No. I dont intend to explain. If its not obvious thats your Problem
Your problem is very obvious, indeed.
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On tape. Trump is dumb as a brick.
Looks can be deceiving. Think about that
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We don‘t know how the recording came to the Washington Post. The Reporter won‘t reveal her sources, and she probably won‘t have to. No one is disputing the veracity of the call.

We know that a staff member of the GA SOS recorded the call. In GA it is legal for one participant on a call to record the call without the other participant‘s consent.
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Looks can be deceiving. Think about that
Not that deceiving.
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We don‘t know how the recording came to the Washington Post. The Reporter won‘t reveal her sources, and she probably won‘t have to. No one is disputing the veracity of the call.

We know that a staff member of the GA SOS recorded the call. In GA it is legal for one participant on a call to record the call without the other participant‘s consent.
It certainly is a valid question that janvier raised. With todays technical possibilities even videos can be deepfaked.


If not even Trump denies the veracity of the tape,it's definitly legit.
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“I have broken more Elton John records. He seems to have a lot of records. And I, by the way, I don’t have a musical instrument. I don’t have a guitar or an organ. No organ. Elton has an organ. And lots of other people helping. No, we’ve broken a lot of records. We’ve broken virtually every record. Because you know, look, I only need this space. They need much more room. For basketball, for hockey and all of the sports, they need a lot of room. We don’t need it. We have people in that space. So we break all of these records. Really, we do it without, like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical – the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth, right? The brain. More important than the mouth is the brain. The brain is much more important.”

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“I have broken more Elton John records. He seems to have a lot of records. And I, by the way, I don’t have a musical instrument. I don’t have a guitar or an organ. No organ. Elton has an organ. And lots of other people helping. No, we’ve broken a lot of records. We’ve broken virtually every record. Because you know, look, I only need this space. They need much more room. For basketball, for hockey and all of the sports, they need a lot of room. We don’t need it. We have people in that space. So we break all of these records. Really, we do it without, like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical – the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth, right? The brain. More important than the mouth is the brain. The brain is much more important.”

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Indeed, the brain is important. Because clearly, the mouth of someone who lacks one speaks complete gibberish.

It reminds me of "word salad:"

"a confused or unintelligible mixture of seemingly random words and phrases, specifically (in psychiatry) as a form of speech indicative of advanced schizophrenia."
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No. I dont intend to explain. If its not obvious thats your Problem
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I hope nobody dies because of Trump's lies.
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