It will be all over in a flash. Do you really want them to suffer through growing up pains of life?

They wont, that's the thing about freedom of speech - everyone is entitled to an opinion and TV opinions are designed to shape voters. One person, one vote is a core problem which we all know is a problem, but have no means of solving within the current framework of what we call "democracy".

Reminds me of the wise words of George Carlin - think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that

George Carlin and Christopher Hitchens are two people I genuinely miss.

It'll be interesting to see why the police shot one of them dead.

So you see one incident like that and you assume it means that the police in general just let them in? Please watch the videos in the following links (and the photos that appear here) and then tell me that the protestors were just being "literally" allowed to enter the Capitol building by the police rather than forcing their way in:

Here you can see them repeatedly trying to break down the barricades to push themselves in and assaulting police officers:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1346894257206923265

And here you can see them breaking out windows of the Capitol building and then climbing inside through the broken windows:

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/polit...ect-biden-win/

At 0.04 on the video you can clearly see a Pride flag. How confused was this poor person?!

So you back up your lies and misrepresentation with more misrepresentation?

I'll ask you for a third time, please provide an example of what you claim.

Probably has a flag for every protest.

7 million votes is a whisker? Trump did this and countless people have fed the monster that is his fascist ego.

Exactly.

He played in the Democrats hands? Can you clarify? Are you suggesting that yesterday's atrocity was due to the Dems?


Yep

But the Brexit 1% or whatever is was was a landslide majority?


They had guns, zip ties and, allegedly, bombs. Gods know who they were trying to get.


I'll add a kidney too. Also, if they were black.


What lies and misrepresentations? The capitol building was stormed by a potentially violent mob. Staffers were told to take breathing apparatus/masks when they went to safer places in case of chemical attack.

Prove what you assert. Put your money where your mouth is. Stop with the spin and open your eyes, even if that worryingly narrow mind is a bit of a lost cause.



They need to get Trump out. Now.

Then I’ve got news for you. It isn’t and doesn’t claim to be.

What I claim? I'm not even sure what you're referring to, Tony, so please elaborate and please quote me where I said it.

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I agree limits of democracy is being stretched as people who believe in democracy don't behave in the way that we saw yesterday (and have seen on and off for the past four years). If people don't believe their vote matters or that the system isn't working for them then they get violent.

I don't think freedom of speech is the problem though, nor do I think authoritarianism or censorship is the answer. I do believe tech, the internet and its effect on main stream media is the catalyst that is causing many of the problems we're seeing.

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Twitter and Facebook haven't banned Trump because he generates clicks.

if they were black they would not have made past the stairs. they would have been shot or tear gassed.

"White privilege is violently storming the US Capitol and just...being sent home"


that video of the lady rioter being helped back down the steps?

"My husband does not hold my hand as tenderly as that officer helping the terrorist down the steps"


taking selfies with the police? it just goes on and on...

Yes, I had commented with that because of what you had written below, where you were obviously trying to downplay the situation from yesterday:

Downplaying the seriousness of the situation in relation to the media and international outcry for such reasons as many of the protestors being in fancy dress, mostly unarmed, were taking selfies with police, were allowed to gain access to the building by police is not the equivalent of saying it's fine to assault police? You do get that, right?!

So what is the issue? That Pancake added "you clearly think"? Is that what has your knickers knotted?

Yeah, and this goes back to my original point. The police in general did NOT allow all the protesters to gain access to the building. See my earlier post, with the video links and the photos -- where protestors were breaking down barricades and trying to force their way in and breaking out windows of the Capitol building and climbing inside, scaling walls, etc. The video that you had posted shows one police officer finally opening a barricade after protestors were pushing their way in. That is NOT the police in general. My other statement was a hypothetical comment -- that if you believe the protesters were allowed in and did nothing wrong because they were simply taking selfies then you are okay with the fact that they were also assaulting police officers and breaking out windows, etc. Or is it that you just forgot to mention that and/or chose to ignore it?

Jesus. Trying to engage in an intelligent conversation with you is like trying to have a rational, intelligent conversation with a two-year old.

You clearly perceive and filter events according to what you want to be true rather than what is true. You cherry-pick information and ignore anything that conflicts with your cognitive biases.

I'm going to put you back on my ignore list because I'd rather not waste any more of my time trying to engage in rational conversations with irrational people on the Internet. Biden's win was made official today. This is a day of celebration for me -- not a day to waste arguing with denialists on the Internet.

Ah. So you are now saying your words were misconstrued? How do you know they were mostly unarmed? Has that been verified? They looked like a fairly organised, violent mob. They chased police. Their body language alone was threatening.