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Old 08.01.2021, 18:44
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...and some people here claimed "mostly unarmed".
Yes, that was me (I said "If some of the people were armed, many of them weren't obviously brandishing their guns").

My point: out of the hundreds/thousands that seem to have invaded the building (by the looks it's a few thousand people outside, and a few hundred imbeciles who entered or attempted to enter), it seems that only a few were armed. But again, that's only judging from a few dozen photographs I saw online. Certainly whatever number of weapons they had (firearms, pipes, small clubs, knives, whatever), most of them were probably concealed, so it'd be hard to tell.

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The whole quasi-putch looks allowed on purpose to me and I wonder why.
I don't get that impression at all. I saw the video of the armed guard shooting the woman trying to enter the building through a window at point-blank range. And tons of pictures of armed forces pushing the invaders back:









That doesn't look like allowed on purpose at all to me.
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Old 08.01.2021, 18:49
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So I guess The House is pushing for a "quick impeachment" -- where it directly goes to the vote. It would be interesting to see how many Republican members of the House would vote in favor of it. It's unlikely that it would make it to the Senate vote in time, before the inauguration, though. But if the GOP really did want to try to prevent Trump from being able to come into power again in 2024, riding on the Republican ticket, I would think that they'd be willing to do a quick vote prior to the inauguration, if possible.

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Old 08.01.2021, 18:51
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If someone has immoral principles (not saying that TC does or doesn't) then why can't that be attacked?

There was someone else here (I think they are now banned but they were definitely in the TC/MC camp) who wrote on the COVID thread, "When will all of this be over so I can stop pretending to wash my hands?".

That's not an opinion. That is someone who lacks integrity. It's someone with immoral values.

Can that not be mentioned?
You take that seriously and draw a conclusion that that person has low moral values? It is so absurd that I can't believe anyone actually believed it. I think one has to go out of one's way unbelievably to understand that as a sincere statement.


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Maybe American people got bored with lockdown, they missed New Year’s party and all that. Therefore they decided to throw their own disrupt democracy kinda carnival in capitol. OMG
What is it going to be next? And why the outfits? Are they like..amaterur theater people? Re-enactment hobbyist? It looks so pointless, caricaturing and discreditting any sincere ideas (if I don't count the breaking into the WH bit). I guess I am trying to find meaning in this symbolism, all I see is only to make themselves seen heroic and visible.

But then - we have Pirates in our Parliment. With dreadlocks and all.
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To look at his record, he also repaid their faith, certainly his middle class and blue collar supporters. Poverty has dropped, inequality has narrowed. American incomes rose five times as much as they did during eight years of President Obama, and this wasn't just the billionaires, those that did best were those at the bottom of the pecking order, low and middle income workers.*
May I ask someone to fact check that with credible sources. No offence to TC, this just interests me and I lack the knowledge about the US economysystem etc. to check it myself

E: Sorry I should have contiuned reading before posting that. Thank you Caleb
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What is it going to be next? And why the outfits? Are they like..amaterur theater people? Re-enactment hobbyist? It looks so pointless, caricaturing and discreditting any sincere ideas.
The guy with the fur viking hat says that he does it to draw attention. Regarding "sincere ideas"...I doubt he or anyone in that violent mob ever had any. I mean, this was their thought process: "let's rush the Capitol, take selfies and post them online while we loot a federally protected building, nobody will ever catch us". Very soon after, when they were identified, one of them removed his house number from the door, so police won't find him.

We are talking about THOSE people, right? That's a new 1% right there. The 1-percent...ile IQ.

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Check my post for the unemployment bit.
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You take that seriously and draw a conclusion that that person has low moral values? It is so absurd that I can't believe anyone actually believed it. I think one has to go out of one's way unbelievably to understand that as a sincere statement.
Yes, I did believe it. Based on that and their other posts.

They never came back to say it was a 'joke.'

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May I ask someone to fact check that with credible sources.
Really? This is EF. Anything goes!
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Yes, I did believe it. Based on that and their other posts.

They never came back to say it was a 'joke.'

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This. Thanks.

The whole quasi-putch looks allowed on purpose to me and I wonder why. Is US reality TV not offering enough adrenaline? I disagree with any riots for any reason, btw. I don't find them in any way constructive.

Ah I have just seen the light- you mean it was all organised by the Democrats- Of course, doh - I am so slow. Thank Dawg for this eye opener.
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Old 08.01.2021, 19:15
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Ah I have just seen the light- you mean it was all organised by the Democrats- Of course, doh - I am so slow. Thank Dawg for this eye opener.
I reckon it was all organised by Kanye West ..

Think about it, he done really bad in the election and now his burd is gonna divorce him .. This was his last ditch attempt and powaaa..
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This. Thanks.

The whole quasi-putch looks allowed on purpose to me and I wonder why. Is US reality TV not offering enough adrenaline? I disagree with any riots for any reason, btw. I don't find them in any way constructive.
The people who died would be disappointed to know that they died for a quasi-putsch
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Really? This is EF. Anything goes!
though sometimes truth is stranger than fiction...these are the times we live in :


"THIS - PELOSI: “This morning, I spoke to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley to discuss available precautions for preventing an unstable president from initiating military hostilities or accessing the launch codes and ordering a nuclear strike. “
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It is less tiring to consume the internet with less gullibility.
Where so many of us have lost, or have known of people who have lost someone because of this virus, I'm not sure that the corona-virus thread is the one for joking around (there is another thread for that).

Obviously you feel differently as, even though you purport to be a moderator, have spent your free time diligently 'Thanking' those sorts of posts.

Still, I guess it takes all sorts...
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I hope that the Military guys have enough sense to not give him the real codes. Or perhaps changed the combination on the lock.

But this isn’t the cold war. Missiles are not sitting in their Silos fully fueled, and B-52s are not sitting at the end of runways, engines ticking over, ready to go.
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This just all goes to show how dangerous Trump's lies are and how dangerous "misinformation" is in general.

Apparently, the woman who was shot and died was a QAnon conspiracy theorist, as revealed by her social media posts. I read a few reports by the Capitol Police that some of the rioters were running through the Capitol building, screaming "Where are the pedophiles!?"

These people just clearly aren't too bright in the first place. That's made all the more apparent if you watch the video where the British journalist is inside the Capitol, interviewing them and asking them why they're there, etc. It was as if someone had unlocked the gates to an insane asylum, letting everybody out at once.
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No, they fly 24/7

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So I guess The House is pushing for a "quick impeachment"
This is IMHO the wrong move. Pelosi and the Blue leadership is driven by a personal agenda - to prove they can impeach him as they already failed once. This is the wrong thing to do from the Dem perspective, but also the wrong thing for the US. I firmly believe that turning Trump into a martyr will give more fuel and more energy for his sycophantic fans.

Moreover, Mitch McConnell ain't stupid. Allowing this to pass will "prove" his was wrong before and the Republicans know that they will have very tough 4 years to go, helping the Dems now is stupid from their perspective.

Let him fall down, foaming and fuming, make it as public as possible and then, sometime in spring drag him into the deepest tax audit ever and then jail him before year end.
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This is IMHO the wrong move. Pelosi and the Blue leadership is driven by a personal agenda - to prove they can impeach him as they already failed once. This is the wrong thing to do from the Dem perspective, but also the wrong thing for the US. I firmly believe that turning Trump into a martyr will give more fuel and more energy for his sycophantic fans.

Moreover, Mitch McConnell ain't stupid. Allowing this to pass will "prove" his was wrong before and the Republicans know that they will have very tough 4 years to go, helping the Dems now is stupid from their perspective.

Let him fall down, foaming and fuming, make it as public as possible and then, sometime in spring drag him into the deepest tax audit ever and then jail him before year end.
This. The damage done by his "leadership" has been done. Don't make the bloke a martyr.
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Agree. It serves absolutely no purpose, just 10 days before the end of his term. It will look to the general audience as a cheap revenge move.
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