Yeah, but I guess I was thinking that part of its purpose (an impeachment) is that it would prevent Trump from being allowed to ever take office again (to run in 2024).

I think Pelosi and some others are still really freaked out right now -- and rightly so. And I think the only reason Trump released that video, finally admitting that the riots were wrong and basically conceding, is because he fears being removed from office via the 25th Amendment otherwise. But it's true that if he was removed from office, he would play the victim about it (because that's what he does) and try to turn himself into a martyr in the minds of his followers.

Makes sense, the democrats won big and can afford to show magnanimity in victory. If he had a year left then I would say 'impeach the bastard' but he has little more than a working week so just let him sink in his own bile. He already looked pretty chastened this morning, I doubt he will want to rock any more boats.

I hope I'm not wrong

Technically, he was already impeached, but not removed from office. Impeachment is done by the house (doable, dems control it) but removal is then voted again, needing 2/3 majority, in the senate and this won't happen because a) there's no time b) McConnell won't let it. It's a complete waste of energy with absolutely no upside neither for the Dems, nor for the US.

Yeah, I know. But what I meant was if he were impeached and then voted out by the Senate. I think many more Republicans Senators would be willing to vote him out this time around, but with such little time left before the inauguration, I highly doubt it could get to the Senate vote in time, anyways.

Apparently, even Biden has said that he doesn't want him to be impeached because he fears that will just cause even more divisiveness.

I think it would deteriorate things even more. More protests. I don't think US politics need any grandstanding nor riots, after the last presidential term.

Which could actually tempt some Republicans who have their eyes on 2024 to remove the fool. I actually think the sentiment in the Senate could be in favour of removal as it allows leaving the sinking ship while claiming it is a vote of conscience.

It wont happen because the calculus of the Reps is "we didn't let it happen last time, if we do let it happen now we will show we didn't have the foresight, while the Dems were right". This is political suicide, McConnel is a sharp cookie.

I have to admit, I was actually rather impressed by McConnell's speech the other day and his denial of election fraud. And that is one thing I never thought I'd say about Mitch McConnell.

With Pelosi, I think that she (and probably many other Dems) are in fear of Trump running again in 2024. He implied that he would, with the way he ended his last video. So they probably see an impeachment and removal from office as the only way to prevent that from being possible. And of course, they're probably also aware that they'd have a better shot right now with the Senate voting him out than they did a year ago.

Quite possible. But suicide or not, McConnell will have his eyes on 2022 already and I doubt it will matter then whether Trump was removed by the Senate. Trump will play the "everybody in the establishment turned on me (and you)" in any case.

But yes, bigger fish to fry for Biden than this.

This. Exactly. (Sorry, I had forgot to include the quote in my post above).

Any member of the GOP must know that they're not going to stand a chance if Trump runs in 2024. So that will not only hinder their chances to take office but also run the risk of more people voting against Trump and voting blue again.

There is a video now. A stupid way to die.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...video-capitol/

Well, one of the peaceful guys accidently tasered himself in the goolies and had a heart attack and died.

It won't let me view it (requires a subscription). But I was finally able to find it here, showing her being shot while trying to get into the main Congress room and other protesters trying to help her afterward (second video):

https://www.tmz.com/2021/01/07/ashli...-fatally-shot/

It's difficult to watch. But I don't know what these people thought was going to happen. I guess they were already delusional in the first place. It's like they were all 'high' on adrenaline, anger and some warped sense of entitlement.

Is that seriously how the police officer died??? I was wondering.. because every article I found about it was not specifying how he had died exactly.

The cop was bludgeoned with a fire extinguisher by a peaceful protester.

No, not the policeman- who, as said above ...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-new...-died-23282491

Thanks.

And thank you as well... I was curious how the others had died.

That guy posing proudly with his guns, though. "Recent comments of Mr Greeson's include: "Let's take this country BACK! Load your guns and take to the s streets. "Let's give them a war... Democrats don't have guns... we do.. bring your stick, I'm bringing my guns."

Well, that's one less violent idiot in the world.

The Late Show with Stephen Colbert is worth a watch. A lot of the "protesters" named themselves on camera. Utter twonks.

I'm glad they went on camera. It makes prosecution easier.

I meant it was quite a lot of words to essentially tell me and some others that we should be quiet.

But this is your opinion. Just as my view is mine. You've done here that which you said others should not. No?


Oh i do. I play guess the poster. I'm often right.

You see? Terms like "cosplay" aim to defang this hideous thing and i don't understand why some folk on here are determined to attempt to do so. It's as if we watched different things. And no, it's not over.

This.


You're likening this breach to reality TV? Do you not understand what happened? Its significance?

So you can call one opinion absurd but others may not?

I think it's a lack of sincere understanding on your part or you wouldn't say whatever this was trying to say.

Que?



Impeach him and then jail him. Then when he's dead, stake him and salt the ground they bury him in. Someone like him needs the belt and braces approach.

I disagree. It sends a very firm message to anyone else thinking his act is a good one to follow.


They've likened that last video to that of a hostage being forced to read a statement. He didn't mean a word of it I'm sure.