Why (or how), exactly, are they unreasonable?

No, this is not true. It is still a point of debate among legal scholars and far from certain whether the Senate can vote on his removal AFTER his term is over. Pelosi is obviously betting that it could be done AFTER, but it's not stated clear-cut in the constitution.

Check this, there are a few other good free sources, but this is the one I think explains it best

https://news.yahoo.com/can-trump-be-...210541103.html

Hmmmm..

From what I can tell, his 70 million supporters are conflicted/split. Some are 100% behind him and are disappointed the riots didn't succeed in overturning the election. Others still think Trump is great but are mortified at what he said and how others acted. I think all of them are mad about his being cut off from social media, even if they understand the why.

Even the Republican party doesn't quite know what to do with itself. On the one hand the right thing to do would be to convict, remove from office, and bar from holding public office again. On the other hand, any Republican that votes for this knows he or she will face a primary challenge in the next election, and that challenge will come from a well-funded machine.

I did finally see that someone in Congress had proposed censure, which seems like a compromise that could get through.

He was already impeached and acquitted. In fact only three presidents have been impeached: Andrew Jackson, Bill Clinton, and Donald Trump. All three were acquitted.

I think people should study what reaction it will cause, this will not be taken well. Whoever is going to be blamed for it, it doesn't really matter at this point, I think. It just looks like they haven't metabolized 2016.

So Trump shouldn't be held accountable for instigating a violent riot on the Capitol for fear of what reactions that might cause -- if he is held accountable?

If you mean by that what I think you mean by that, I think you need to ask yourself how Trump supporters have been 'metabolizing' Biden's win in 2020.

I really think McConnell is tacitly supporting the impeachment as this will give him and the GOP enough ammo to purge Trump from the party.

The good news is that all seem to be now converging against him and hopefully they indeed manage to limit his options post 20th of Jan Let the man enjoy a well-deserved brake with a state-paid room and board in a prison of his choice!

Of course it matters. Can't study something that hasn't happened yet. That's called guessing, no?

Haven't metabolized 2016? Like Trump's rabid fans are "metabolizing" Biden's win? I know you have a singular idiom but that's a peculiar word choice.

Just seen Pancakes response.

Lawmakers in the House have passed the threshold of votes needed to impeach President Trump.
Voting continues.

This is all hopeless. They should form a governing triumphirate of Oprah Winfrey, Bruce Springsteen and Tom Brady for life.

The ten Republicans’ votes made this the most bipartisan presidential impeachment in history.

It's your turn to add an "ETA" that 22 yards already said this...

I posted a list of those 10 GOP Senators here. There are some surprisingly conservative Representatives on that list.

Because Ticino Tom disagrees with them. No more no less.

That's true, although 81 Republicans sided with the Democrats in voting not to levy a fourth impeachment charge, of abuse of power, on Bill Clinton -- which I guess would be the most bipartisan rejection of impeachment.

Why do you assume the 70 million voters are a homogenous mass? You often seem to speak for large groups of people or assume things about them.

...and "talk to his people"? His people?

MC is apparently unable to understand that Trump's impeachment has nothing to do with a "vendetta agenda" but has everything to do with him being held accountable for his actions and the consequences of his actions.

Similarly, when someone is tried in a court of a law for a crime, they are not tried due to a "vendetta agenda." And if they are convicted and imprisoned, it is because they are viewed as a threat to society.

But clearly some people are desperately trying to change the narrative on all of this because in their minds, Trump is never accountable for his own actions or behavior and there is, instead, always someone else to blame.

I think I didn't make my point clearly enough. Since the impeachment last year, impeachment has now lost its gravity and the door has been left open for future Presidents to be impeached over any misdemeanor.

What I rather meant is how will it look, or rather how President Trump will manipulate the outcome once he is likely acquitted by the Senate? Won't he just say it exonerates of any wrong doing? This is why I'm not sure it's the best course of action (unless of course the votes are there).

Yes, the mainstream media, the social media, everybody but the person who kept giving ammunition and material to his opponents. Never a step back and a moment of self-reflection, always on power trips.

Even if the Senate did vote against Trump this time around, he would still play the victim about it and claim that he isn't guilty -- no matter what. Because that's what he does (as well as his followers).

I think the House would be foolish to refuse to impeach him simply for fear of any backlash (same with the Senate vote). To do that is the same as essentially catering to his demands as well as the demands of his support base. What kind of message does that get across if the US government allows a President to use lies and rhetoric to instigate a violent attack on the US Capitol but then refuse to hold him accountable for it?