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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

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Different flavors of incompetence.
These quickfire generic BS statements you are so fond of posting would be ok if you could actually explain what you mean, and in this case why Trump and Biden are supposedly 'equally incompetent', despite having wholly different characters and approaches, vastly different ethics and morality and despite only one having produced a disastrous pandemic response.

From what I have seen, you can rarely, if ever, explain yourself in any detail on an intellectual level that supports your statements.
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Biden clearly has dementia, its sad seeing the left continue to put him at the forefront of their push for the Presidency, I dont like Biden at all, but I do wish he would be spending this time with his family, its so sad to see.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1306999867802300416
You really need to be more careful about what you allow yourself to assume to be true. The video in your link has been heavily edited and very much differs from what Biden had actually said during that interview, which you can see for yourself in the following link, which contains the full interview. That portion, where he answers her questions about the allegations against him, begins at around 03:19.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gogO2nFQw_w

As you can see, the video portion in your link was heavily edited to make Biden's answer seem much, much more disjointed and nonsensical than it actually was. And it's clearly just another lame and immature attempt to desperately portray Biden as having "dementia." And of course, the irony is that anyone who believes that stuff and particularly anyone who falls for a heavily edited video intended to manipulate its viewers as portraying the truth is actually themselves suffering from some form of cognitive distortion.

Please stop spreading fake news.

Fact check: Video shared on social media is edited version of Joe Biden’s appearance on The View
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN2322U4

"A video circulating on social media appears to show Joe Biden hesitating and stumbling over his words when asked about sexual misconduct allegations by the hosts of popular ABC show The View. The video has been altered by splicing segments of the former Vice President speaking, which is evident when comparing the original interview with the version posted online.

The version of the video circulating on social media has been edited to make Biden’s answers appear incoherent."

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These quickfire generic BS statements you are so fond of posting would be ok if you could actually explain what you mean, and in this case why Trump and Biden are supposedly 'equally incompetent', despite having wholly different characters and approaches, vastly different ethics and morality and despite only one having produced a disastrous pandemic response.

From what I have seen, you can rarely, if ever, explain yourself in any detail on an intellectual level.

I didn't write "equally incompetent". I wrote that they were both incompetent. I think we both agree on Trump but one must be blind to oversee that Biden's time is over: he seems to have no energy left and gives the impression of a faded flower. Not exactly a good starting point for such a demanding position.
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You really need to be more careful about what you allow yourself to assume to be true.
Writing this on EF.....
Always an optimist, eh?
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I didn't write "equally incompetent". I wrote that they were both incompetent. I think we both agree on Trump but one must be blind to oversee that Biden's time is over: he seems to have no energy left and gives the impression of a faded flower. Not exactly a good starting point for such a demanding position.
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Biden’s polling lead nears magic number
The former vice president is above or close to majority support in enough states to win the Electoral College.

According to the latest RealClearPolitics average, Biden is sitting at 49.3 percent in national surveys and has a 6.2 percentage point lead over President Donald Trump. That’s significantly higher than Clinton’s 44.9 percent mark this time four years ago, which was good for only a 1 point lead.
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One significant difference from Clinton is that there are now fewer undecideds or voters poised to select third-party candidates who could at the last minute surprise with a Trump vote.
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

It would appear that the Republicans are deathly afraid they are going to lose both the Presidency and the Senate.

Why else would they be pushing through an appointment to the SCOTUS?

OTOH a Democratic win in both houses will make a conservative court less important.
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Old 19.09.2020, 15:26
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It would appear that the Republicans are deathly afraid they are going to lose both the Presidency and the Senate.

Why else would they be pushing through an appointment to the SCOTUS?

OTOH a Democratic win in both houses will make a conservative court less important.
Sure, with a Democratic majority in both Houses they could pass suitable laws and then not have to ask the Supreme Court to rule.
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Old 19.09.2020, 15:29
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It would appear that the Republicans are deathly afraid they are going to lose both the Presidency and the Senate.

Why else would they be pushing through an appointment to the SCOTUS?

OTOH a Democratic win in both houses will make a conservative court less important.
Interested to see Trump's strategy. He could push for a Scotus vote before the election and then say look how good I did. Or he could delay the vote until after the election and say "if you vote me in the prize will be a new conservative SCOTUS".

I assume he will go for the first option, he is not known for long subtle plays.

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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Regardless of who wins, I am glad that I don't live there.

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It would appear that the Republicans are deathly afraid they are going to lose both the Presidency and the Senate.

Why else would they be pushing through an appointment to the SCOTUS?
Seems like the prudent thing to do.
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It would appear that the Republicans are deathly afraid they are going to lose both the Presidency and the Senate.

Why else would they be pushing through an appointment to the SCOTUS?

OTOH a Democratic win in both houses will make a conservative court less important.
Because they have a democratic mandate to do so? The Democrats would 100% do the same - they tried even without the senate....
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I didn't write "equally incompetent". I wrote that they were both incompetent. I think we both agree on Trump but one must be blind to oversee that Biden's time is over: he seems to have no energy left and gives the impression of a faded flower. Not exactly a good starting point for such a demanding position.
In a similar vein, apparently it needs to be said:

Criticising Biden does not equal support for Trump.
Nor is criticising the MSM for their misrepresentations support for either.
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Interested to see Trump's strategy. He could push for a Scotus vote before the election and then say look how good I did. Or he could delay the vote until after the election and say "if you vote me in the prize will be a new conservative SCOTUS".

I assume he will go for the first option, he is not known for long subtle plays.
The smart track would be to claim the moral higher ground by promising no SCOTUS nomination or vote before the election. Then, if Trump loses and/or the Republicans lose control of the Senate, he could nominate his appointee on 4 November and have her approved by the lame duck Senate before the new President/Senate is installed in January.

I'm fairly sure Trump couldn't give a damn about the optics. He's desperate for some sort of "legacy". If he takes that route, with an incoming Democratic President and Senate, I hope the Democrats successfully add more seats to SCOTUS.
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Yeah, as it stands now, there are eight remaining Supreme Court Justices and only three of them have been appointed by Democratic Presidents. The other five that are remaining were appointed by Bush Sr., Bush Jr. and Trump. So we're currently at 3 (Dem) to 5 (Rep).

So I can certainly understand why Democrats are sickened at the thought of Trump appointing yet another Justice, especially considering the fact that he's already appointed two of them. And if he does, it will result in quite the imbalance in the Supreme Court, and we could very well be heading deeper and deeper in the direction of the reversal of the separation of church and state.

Apparently, one of Trump's considerations is Ted Cruz -- a guy who denies climate change, who seriously believes that some kind of magical "sky daddy" created the universe in six days and who thinks that people of the same gender shouldn't be allowed to marry because a book written by humans 2,000 years ago says so. Thankfully, Ted Cruz has done the future of the US a favor by declining the offer.
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President Trump said Saturday that he approved a proposal from TikTok, Oracle and Walmart that would stop the video app from being shut down.
The president said as part of the deal, TikTok would “be making about a $5 billion contribution towards education.”
ByteDance, the owner of video app TikTok, said Sunday it had heard for the first time that it was setting up a $5 billion education fund in the U.S.

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Despite the evidence to the contrary I believe Mr. Cruz is not a woman.
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Trump has mentioned that he’d like to put a woman on the court. And he likes women better than men.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...-lagoa-reports

At a rally in North Carolina, he suggested he’d choose a brilliant woman, and two names people are discussing are Amy Coney Barrett or Barbara Lagoa.

I add the link from Fox because it references his NC appearance, it’s short, and says pretty much what other news outlets have mentioned.

First debate is Sept 30, expect an announcement before that. I guess we’ll see.
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The smart track would be to claim the moral higher ground by promising no SCOTUS nomination or vote before the election. Then, if Trump loses and/or the Republicans lose control of the Senate, he could nominate his appointee on 4 November and have her approved by the lame duck Senate before the new President/Senate is installed in January.

I'm fairly sure Trump couldn't give a damn about the optics. He's desperate for some sort of "legacy". If he takes that route, with an incoming Democratic President and Senate, I hope the Democrats successfully add more seats to SCOTUS.
Now I hate the Donald as much as the Next thinking man, but the republicans have an absolute democratic mandate to add a new judge, and had an mandate to block Obama's pick in 2016.

That's what their voters would want.

This is a bit crying wolf when there's plenty of real abusive behaviour by Mr Trump.
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Trump has mentioned that he’d like to put a woman on the court. And he likes women better than men.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...-lagoa-reports

At a rally in North Carolina, he suggested he’d choose a brilliant woman, and two names people are discussing are Amy Coney Barrett or Barbara Lagoa.

I add the link from Fox because it references his NC appearance, it’s short, and says pretty much what other news outlets have mentioned.

First debate is Sept 30, expect an announcement before that. I guess we’ll see.
I'm not sure about Barbara Lagosa, as I couldn't find much of anything regarding her personal views, but Amy Coney Barrett is against women's rights as well as gay rights. Go figure.

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Judge Barrett with her husband, Jesse

"While a full-time faculty member at Notre Dame, Barrett was affiliated with Faculty for Life, a pro-life group at the school. In 2015, she signed a joint letter to Catholic bishops that affirmed the Church's teachings, including "the value of human life from conception to natural death", and that family and marriage are "founded on the indissoluble commitment of a man and a woman".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Co...#Personal_life
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