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his only real achievement but he turns a blind eye to his thug mate Erdogan and his active warmongering in armenia, libya, with greece with israel, with russia and with the EU.
Turning the blind eye translates for me as "not a US issue to pour US money and American people into". He said he'd do exactly that.
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And that's another perfect example of how Trump can (and does) say anything and his supporters will instinctively believe him and never question the validity or truth of his statements.

Biden has been a US Senator since the 1970s and served as Vice President for eight years during an administration that lifted America out of a recession, saw a significant drop in unemployment rates and helped bring affordable healthcare to more Americans than any US President has ever done in the past. Biden wasn't one of these "sit back and do nothing" Vice Presidents. e.g. He played a significant role in healthcare reform as Vice President.

And during his 36 years as a US Senator (having won re-election SIX times), one of his major accomplishments is his introduction of the Violence Against Women Act, which reformed penalties for sexual assault and domestic abuse and was then signed into law.

And what exactly has Trump done for women? Oh, that's right. He wants to grab them by the pussy.

And what exactly has Trump accomplished during his four years as President? Oh, that's right. He's tried to take credit for an economy that Obama set in motion. He's also lied to Americans about the real threat of a virus that has, so far, killed over 200,000 Americans. And now, as an added bonus, he's encouraged white supremacists to arm themselves and "stand back and standby" during what is essentially a civil right's movement.

Biden has dedicated the majority of his life to public service. Trump has dedicated the majority of his life to taking out huge loans that he then refuses to pay back and creating the illusion that he is a successful, rich businessman when in fact, he is severely in debt and any wealth he displays is borrowed money. He also claims to love America and yet pays as little in taxes as possible, claiming that it means he's "smart," when in truth, it really only means that he is extremely greedy.
I'm updating my previous comment of being ambivalent to being indifferent.
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Another non American.. And one with very little interest in politics in general, I think whatever train wreck happens up there affects my day to day life very very little. I'm not a billionaire nor am I on the street.. Us little people in the middle feel few effects.

What really bugs is me is the how the left / trump haters etc can be so outspoken and must be agreed with, anything less is classed as some sort of hatred or stupidity..
Anybody who says they like Trump, for whatever reason is classed as some sort of white supremacist or just stupid.
It's become cool and trendy to hate Trump, shout BLM, defund the police etc. Anybody who either sits on the fence or questions it is wrong.

This is where the silent majority might just put Mr Orange in for another term. They are not allowed a voice other than that X on the ballot.
This exactly. I personally wish Trump went about politics differently but I don't think he cares for my opinion.
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Old 30.09.2020, 13:23
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She was not my choice as a presidential candidate (Pete was my guy) but I had often been impressed by her as a Senator. I have become increasingly impressed with her since she joined the ticket - which I enthusiastically support. She is a good balance to Joe.

Obviously Joe was not my choice either - but as I see this country increasingly torn asunder, I have come to appreciate the middle-of-the-road selection. Disaffected Republicans will vote for Joe, where they likely could not for many of the other candidates. I only hope the progressive wing will vote blue rather than sit this one out.

Joe is a placeholder - but I think that may be what we need right now. We need someone from the middle whose primary mission is to pull us back from the brink by finding common ground again. We need a return to decency, civility, we need to return to a place where we can all agree on the fundamentals of our democracy and agree to live within that framework.

Once there, we can then go back to arguing about the details.
Is it 'Vote Biden, get Harris'?

Or if Biden steps down, there is another election?
Genuine question.
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Old 30.09.2020, 13:26
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Is it 'Vote Biden, get Harris'?

Or if Biden steps down, there is another election?
Genuine question.
Vice presidents fill the president’s shoes until the next scheduled election.
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I'm a huge fan of Harris and would have supported her as a presidential candidate.
I've always liked Jet Harris, is he running?

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Old 30.09.2020, 13:34
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...I don't know how trumpoids will survive his defeat. It will be fun to watch these insecure characters.
Fun isn't exactly the word that comes to my mind...

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The only thing that can remotely save 2020, is Trump losing the election!
Ok 2020 is screwed then. Despite the polls saying otherwise, unless there's some sort of October surprise I think Trump will win again.

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...Joe is a placeholder...
Which is a shame. I think the Ds made a huge mistake in anointing Hilary and not letting anyone or anything get in her way back in 2016. Joe could have been successful had he run in 2016, with the economy on the upswing and being a thousand percent more likeable than Hilary.
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I really, really hope he'll lose because Trumpism is gaining too much terrain among politicians, media, social media etc.
Win or lose I don't think Trumpism is going anywhere just yet.
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Old 30.09.2020, 13:48
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Win or lose I don't think Trumpism is going anywhere just yet.
What does that term mean...?

If media, internet and public communications are congratulating Biden to his (imagined) victory and it was the same with Hillary, innit...what kool-aid are we missing then?
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Win or lose I don't think Trumpism is going anywhere just yet.
One can only hope, eh?
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Old 30.09.2020, 14:07
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One can only hope, eh?
You mean the blatant disregard for facts and human life, the divide-and-conquer approach tearing the country apart and, now that we know this, the complete inability to manage his inherited business so he's basically lost more than we will ever make? I'd say, the sooner he's gone, the sooner the US can start healing itself and coming back as something vaguely resembling a united country.
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What does that term mean...?

If media, internet, and public communications are congratulating Biden to his (imagined) victory and it was the same with Hillary, innit...what kool-aid are we missing then?
Trump is severely lagging in the polls so he needed a big win in the debate to get back in the running; I believe we can all agree he did not have a big win.

In fact, the debate was a disaster - nobody won or even broke even. As a vehicle to pull the undecided voters into one camp or another it was an abject failure.
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Old 30.09.2020, 14:41
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I'm like 22yards. Not American, ambivalent to the situation overall, it's just a curiosity. Ignore all my comments as irrelevant (most people do so anyway).
I liked Obama. I liked Bush Jnr. I liked Clinton. I like Trump.
Whether any of them were any good for America or not, I don't know, but at least they had something about them.
I have a lot of American friends and colleagues. No-one blue collar though.
From what I have garnered, they are all democrats.


Trump has not started or extended any wars, and doesn't look lke doing so.
U.S. Drone Strikes Have Gone Up 432% Since Trump Took Office
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Trump in the debate;
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“I have Florida. I have Texas. I have Ohio. I have, excuse me, Portland — the sheriff just came out today, and he said, ‘I support President Trump,’” Trump said.
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I love how people are criticizing Bidens performance, as though it was a regular debate between two rational human beings and Biden was somehow flat.

The pressure of a televised debate already high enough in normal circumstances, right? Well, I challenge anyone to try having a debate with someone who is a sitting President, who is constantly interrupting you, who talking over you and who is insulting your family in the most public and humiliating way imaginable. Someone with absolutely no conscience. A psychopath. A pathological liar. A narcissist. Trump.

For Biden to even have kept his cool like he did in the face of such an outrageous display is impressive. Many people would have exploded or walked off the stage.
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I love how people are criticizing Bidens performance, as though it was a regular debate between two rational human beings and Biden was somehow flat.

The pressure of a televised debate already high enough in normal circumstances, right? Well, I challenge anyone to try having a debate with someone who is a sitting President, who is constantly interrupting you, who talking over you and who is insulting your family in the most public and humiliating way imaginable. Someone with absolutely no conscience. A psychopath. A pathological liar. A narcissist. Trump.

For Biden to even have kept his cool like he did in the face of such an outrageous display is impressive. Many people would have exploded or walked off the stage.
agreed except biden is a presidential candidate so he should be made of sterner stuff / more capable than your average joe
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agreed except biden is a presidential candidate so he should be made of sterner stuff / more capable than your average joe
I'm not sure what your post means... are you implying that his debate performance in the face of Trumps outrageous behaviour was like some random guy someone off the street?
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agreed except biden is a presidential candidate so he should be made of sterner stuff / more capable than your average joe
I said to my husband this morning, it's not that Biden is a bad debater. It's that Trump has a way of dominating every room and conversation, and especially on TV he knows how to play it. Trump is okay with interrupting, lying, bullying, attacking family, talking over everyone else, etc.

Biden was raised to be polite, wait his turn for the most part, and not attack family.

I think Biden's debate prep people went too soft on him by focusing on content and not so much delivery. They should have asked Bernie to show up and shout any kind of nonsense and insults and talk over Joe in each mock debate so it would be a more accurate representation of what he'd face.
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They really need a stronger interviewer and a mute button.
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Imagine finding a Debate Moderator who could actually keep the two opponents in check. That person could become the next president. Wallace was a shrinking violet.

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