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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

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Both FiveThirtyEight and Real Clear Politics poll of polls shows Biden 9 points ahead of Trump, far ahead of Hillary at the same timeline point.

More worrying Biden is about the same as Hillary in the "swing states".
As much as all this is positive, it's the electoral vote that counts.
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As much as all this is positive, it's the electoral vote that counts.
That is why I mentioned the "swing states".
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Old 07.10.2020, 15:47
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Small correction....South Carolina. Hope Harrison wins.
Some positive news
The Cook Political Report on Wednesday shifted the South Carolina Senate race from “lean Republican” in favor of incumbent Sen. Lindsey Graham (R) to a “toss up,” giving Democratic challenger Jaime Harrison a boost weeks before the election.

The nonpartisan election handicapper said it appeared that Graham would “cruise to re-election” earlier this year but on Wednesday described Harrison as “Democrats’ best recruit and a fundraising behemoth.”

In four years, Sen. Lindsey Graham has gone from Donald Trump's cutting critic to his dogged defender, a bipartisan dealmaker who used to be respected by Senate Democrats to a staunch conservative reviled by liberals across the country.

Good word "reviled.
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Old 07.10.2020, 16:23
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Getting bizarre
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Vote TRUMP California. No more blackouts, shutdowns, ridiculous (sic) forrest fires, or water “rationing” (coming soon).
We can win in California NOW!
Apart from the fact that he cannot spell forest and anyway, they are mostly federal forests, how is voting Trump in again as President going to fix the problems he already failed to fix?
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Old 07.10.2020, 22:10
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

I do not know if it is due to the steroids he is taking, or panicking at likely losing the election or something else but his tweets get even more contradictory.
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Early voting and vote-by-mail start TODAY in ARIZONA! Cast your vote early in person, or request your vote-by-mail ballot right now.
We want all eligible voters to vote, and have it counted!
Request your vote-by-mail ballot by clicking below! #VOTE
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So are vote-by-mail ballots OK now
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Apart from the fact that he cannot spell forest and anyway, they are mostly federal forests, how is voting Trump in again as President going to fix the problems he already failed to fix?
He will say anything if he thinks it might help him win. Yesterday, he was saying that he refuses to discuss stimulus checks with the House until after the election; and then once he realized that that was a mistake, today he tried to flip it by saying that Pelosi needs to approve his demands. He's just desperately trying to change and distort every situation into one that he thinks will help him win. I expect his behavior to become increasingly irrational and inconsistent over the next few weeks, parallel with his increasing desperation.

It will be interesting to find out tomorrow morning how the VP debate goes. At least Pence usually comes off as being much more mature and mild-mannered than Trump, so hopefully it won't be anything like the ridiculous shitshow that the last debate was.

Edit: Sorry, I posted this and then noticed your post, Marton, also mentioning his contradictions. Didn't mean for it to seem like I was just repeating what you had said.
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Old 07.10.2020, 22:50
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He will say anything if he thinks it might help him win. Yesterday, he was saying that he refuses to discuss stimulus checks with the House until after the election; and then once he realized that that was a mistake, today he tried to flip it by saying that Pelosi needs to approve his demands. He's just desperately trying to change and distort every situation into one that he thinks will help him win. I expect his behavior to become increasingly irrational and inconsistent over the next few weeks, parallel with his increasing desperation.

It will be interesting to find out tomorrow morning how the VP debate goes. At least Pence usually comes off as being much more mature and mild-mannered than Trump, so hopefully it won't be anything like the ridiculous shitshow that the last debate was.

Edit: Sorry, I posted this and then noticed your post, Marton, also mentioning his contradictions. Didn't mean for it to seem like I was just repeating what you had said.
No worries, be happy.
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Old 07.10.2020, 23:04
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

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President Trump’s son Eric Trump on Tuesday suggested that upcoming presidential debates should include clear podiums to prevent candidates from relying on notes, adding that reading prepared statements or information is not “the way the real world works.”
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Well this is a logical approach when your father cannot read long sentences
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Old 07.10.2020, 23:31
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

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Democratic nominee Joe Biden leads President Trump by 12 points in a new national survey from Rasmussen, the conservative outlet that has historically found the race to be closer than other pollsters.
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This is really an extraordinary result. Rasmussen is a right-leaning poll that is Trump's favourite and usually shows him far ahead of other pollsters.

In the last few weeks, Rasmussen shows Trump’s job approval rating has fallen from 53 per cent (far above the results from other polls) to 44 per cent.

Edit: This date in 2016 Rasmussen had Hillary 7 points ahead of Trump.

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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Apparently, Biden's campaign is now asking for Trump to prove that he is no longer contagious before attending the next Presidential debate, scheduled for October 15th.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bide...e_hero_related

I know I joked the other day that they might have to wheel Trump out in a bubble cage for the debate, but it looks like that actually could happen. At least that might make it easier to mute him.
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Old 08.10.2020, 00:21
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The National Guard has put military police units on standby in two states to respond to any potential civil unrest following violent protests across the country this fall, Pentagon officials confirmed Wednesday.
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Seems they are expecting post-election violence, so happy I do not live there.
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I can't wait to see Harris take on Pence in a debate...she makes the toughest and worst kind of men shake in their boots & I am beyond thrilled to see what she will do with an evangelical who calls his wife "mother".
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Oh God, Mike Pence... this repressed puppet is going to be stuttering and stammering all the way through any debate. The whole "Mother" thing is straight out of some dark comedy movie.
So what happened? Was the repressed puppet shaking in his boots?
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Old 08.10.2020, 08:13
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

I did not watch any of the debates nor will I be watching them. Don't care enough. That said I think Trump will lose this election. If he had used common sense he could have actually won it.

Regarding Harris, I don't like her at all. I would have voted for Tulsi Gabbard though. Seems like a much nicer person.
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So what happened? Was the repressed puppet shaking in his boots?
The repressed puppet straight out pathologically lied in almost every answer, condescended Kamala and the moderator, and broke the debate rules that he agreed to by talking over them and not keeping to his time.

There was nothing to be proud about with regards to his his performance, unless you like the fact he lied throughout his debate. Overall, the media have also agreed that Kamala dominated him in every meaningful respect.

However, I am sure that those of a more morally dubious and delusional character did appreciate his performance for not being the absolute car crash that the presidents was. Ahh, what a low bar that Republicans have to measure things by.
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The repressed puppet straight out pathologically lied in almost every answer, condescended Kamala and the moderator, and broke the debate rules that he agreed to by talking over them and not keeping to his time.

There was nothing to be proud about with regards to his his performance, unless you like the fact he lied throughout his debate. Overall, the media have also agreed that Kamala dominated him in every meaningful respect.

However, I am sure that those of a more morally dubious and delusional character did appreciate his performance for not being the absolute car crash that the presidents was. Ahh, what a low bar that Republicans have to measure things by.
I agree. Also, the moderator was awful. The fly on Pence’s head was more interesting than he. He was low content and condescending. Harris held her ground and did her best to reclaim her time.
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I agree. Also, the moderator was awful. The fly on Pence’s head was more interesting than he. He was low content and condescending. Harris held her ground and did her best to reclaim her time.
Harris is so far above Pence intellectually and ethically that it's embarassing to watch. All he can do is plough through his pre-prescribed lines by rote, he cannot react dynamically in real-time when challenged on his obvious lies and failings of the administration because there is simply no defence against them... and he knows it. All he had to do to get through it with the least amount of damage was to continue to repeat the same lies and not admit any fault.
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

The ostrich approach, ignore the virus and hope it goes away.
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A White House security official is reportedly “gravely ill” after contracting COVID-19 in September, Bloomberg reports.

The publication identified the official as Crede Bailey, who heads the White House’s security office. He has reportedly been receiving hospital care since September.

According to Bloomberg, which cited four sources familiar with official’s condition, Bailey grew sick before the Rose Garden event held on Sept. 26, in which President Trump nominated Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court.

The White House is not contact tracing attendees of the RG event, according to a report from The New York Times,
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Thirty-four White House staffers and "other contacts" have been infected with the coronavirus in recent days, according to a Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) memo obtained by ABC News.

The figure is 10 more than 24 staffers previously reported, although the memo did not specify the nature of the “other contacts”

Although the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends self-isolation for 14 days after the onset of symptoms, the White House said Trump returned to working from the Oval Office on Wednesday.
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Trump really does not care how many of his employees he is putting at risk.
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Trump really does not care how many of his employees he is putting at risk.
Of course not, because it's just another example of how lacking in sanity and rationality he is. When we look back on all this in a decade we are going to be scratching our heads wondering wtf happened in this most bizarre period of American presidential history and that it will provide fuel for many political dissertations and studies. Simply digesting and making sense of all of the things that happened in his term(s) will take a lot of time.

Pretty sure there will be some blockbuster movies made about it for some time too.
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Both sides will argue their candidate won, Pence v Harris.
For me, it was important that Harris made no big failures or gaffes and at that she was successful. Sadly Pence also made no gaffes.

I doubt that debate will sway any voters to change their vote, certainly, the tide of women voters turning against Trump should be more than satisfied with Harris's performance.

I give the debate prize to the fly; believed to be a Chinese robot indoctrinating Pence

Edit: according to a CNN Instant Poll of registered voters who watched. About 6 in 10 (59%) said Harris won, while 38% said Vice President Mike Pence had the better night.
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Maybe it's just time for the US to change and move away from the presidential system, as it doesn't really seem to be working (anymore).



If you look at other countries with a presidential system, there don't seem to be many among them with a strong and healthy democracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ential_systems
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