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For a moment there I wasn't so sure if you weren't the guy suggesting that 5G towers could be turned into weapons. Thnx for saving me the time to check it out.

BTW, I SWEAR I'm neither CIA nor an alien from another planet.
Thanks for removing all doubt.
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Anyways, I think its about time for a serious third party for us independent moderates, who are now Nazis according to the left. The vacuum is there thanks to the left eating its own.



Dammed if we do, dammed if we dont.
I agree that we need a 3rd party.
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Old 16.10.2020, 20:46
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

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Myself, I like the candidate who was endorsed by the Taliban
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I've found it very surprising that Bidens team have not run a few info ads on the next generation of trumps, or if they have, that I've not seen them spoken of as loudly as this Hunter shenanigans.
Surely it's more valid a criticism of Trump due to the far more obvious nepotism involved. Are the Dems too afraid to fight in the dirt?
I think they want to keep it quiet because we are all meant to be aware how terrible Trump is. The media has already thrown everything they have at him. Are we really meant to be surprised that the guy who is regularly compared to Adolf Hitler has done some dodgy deals?

Biden on the other hand is meant to be the good guy who does no wrong. The polished turd. He is supposed to be setting the Presidential standard, not being involved in shady overseas deals with his crackhead son.
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Old 16.10.2020, 21:15
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I think they want to keep it quiet because we are all meant to be aware how terrible Trump is. The media has already thrown everything they have at him. Are we really meant to be surprised that the guy who is regularly compared to Adolf Hitler has done some dodgy deals?

Biden on the other hand is meant to be the good guy who does no wrong. The polished turd. He is supposed to be setting the Presidential standard, not being involved in shady overseas deals with his crackhead son.
So please do inform us about what are the intent of these shady overseas deals?

So far the conspiracy theorists have been remarkably quiet about exactly what these deals involve, it has all been mutter, mutter, smoke and mirrors, and so forth but nothing that one can actually comprehend.

It has been five or six years since Hunter had this job in the Ukraine so there has been more than enough time to investigate the allegations.

Contrariwise, the claims about Trump's dodgy deals are much clearer including, for example, tax evasion and abusing his role to earn revenue from foreign entities for his properties.
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Old 16.10.2020, 21:20
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Seems people really like Joe.
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The Trump town hall averaged 10.6 million viewers on the NBC broadcast network. On MSNBC, Trump reached 1.74 million viewers, and on CNBC, about 671,000 viewers. So Trump's gross audience across the three channels was 13 million, about one million fewer than Biden's audience on ABC alone.
When Trump participated in a town hall on ABC last month, the event averaged 3.8 million viewers.

When Biden held a town hall on NBC, MSNBC and CNBC last week, it averaged 6.7 million viewers.
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So please do inform us about what are the intent of these shady overseas deals?

So far the conspiracy theorists have been remarkably quiet about exactly what these deals involve, it has all been mutter, mutter, smoke and mirrors, and so forth but nothing that one can actually comprehend.

It has been five or six years since Hunter had this job in the Ukraine so there has been more than enough time to investigate the allegations.

Contrariwise, the claims about Trump's dodgy deals are much clearer including, for example, tax evasion and abusing his role to earn revenue from foreign entities for his properties.
I suggest you read "Profiles in Corruption" by Peter Schweizer. He details how Biden's family (namely his sister and brother and son, Hunter) benefited from his political positions and access to power.

Joe is no different to Trump... He is certainly much nicer and more appealing (personality wise) but he used/abused the system in a different way to Trump but similar in that he and his family prospered.

Not much more to add here except the US definitely needs a third party. I am not voting as both candidates are deplorable in my view. That is my vote. We can and should do better... Just my thoughts...
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Old 16.10.2020, 21:40
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Seems people really like Joe.


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Your dedication to Biden is noteworthy Aren't ABC, NBC, MSNBC and CNBC all left leaning media? So it makes sense that lefty crowd will watch Biden more?
For your sake I hope Biden wins
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Old 16.10.2020, 21:48
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I think they want to keep it quiet because we are all meant to be aware how terrible Trump is. The media has already thrown everything they have at him. Are we really meant to be surprised that the guy who is regularly compared to Adolf Hitler has done some dodgy deals?

Biden on the other hand is meant to be the good guy who does no wrong. The polished turd. He is supposed to be setting the Presidential standard, not being involved in shady overseas deals with his crackhead son.
And you have just done a fine job of exemplifying the fact that the right is desperate to make Biden look bad because they know Trump can't "hold a candle" to him.

Even the Republicans that led the committee to investigate Biden have admitted that Biden has done no wrong and that the report was focused on his son. Their report did not implicate Biden. And (quote) ""The extent to which Hunter Biden’s role on Burisma’s board affected U.S. policy toward Ukraine is not clear."

It's interesting, though, that Republicans seem to think it's perfectly fine for Trump to have bribed a foreign leader for personal favors regarding an election, but Biden should be considered the evil of all evils simply for something that his son may have done? They've got nothing on Biden so out of desperation, they're trying to go after his son and somehow make Biden appear responsible because they obviously realize that their sheep will believe anything they tell them.

Maybe I should make up a rumor about Biden actually having a direct line of communication with Satan via a microchip that's been implanted in his skull and see how quickly they eat that up. You have QAnon people on your side... As if that isn't a reflection of the ridiculous crap that some people are willing to believe simply because it feeds their cognitive biases and fuels their irrational hatred of the left?
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Old 16.10.2020, 21:55
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I suggest you read "Profiles in Corruption" by Peter Schweizer. He details how Biden's family (namely his sister and brother and son, Hunter) benefited from his political positions and access to power.

Joe is no different to Trump... He is certainly much nicer and more appealing (personality wise) but he used/abused the system in a different way to Trump but similar in that he and his family prospered.

Not much more to add here except the US definitely needs a third party. I am not voting as both candidates are deplorable in my view. That is my vote. We can and should do better... Just my thoughts...
Benefiting from relative's positions is normal from the Queen of England to Trump, my question was what were these shady deals?
I assume you read that book so you can inform us?

Or is it just jealousy when people make the best of their opportunities?
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Benefiting from relative's positions is normal from the Queen of England to Trump, my question was what were these shady deals?
I assume you read that book so you can inform us?

Or is it just jealousy when people make the best of their opportunities?
I find it fascinating that it is the "summum malum" when republicans make the most of their opportunities financially and are criticized, but Joe, Pelosi are exempt? Shouldn't they both (Republicans and Democrats) be held accountable?

I guess you have no time nor interest to read the book I referenced and no worries Marton. Here are some links regarding Joe's siblings (we'll leave Hunter out of it as there are too many articles on him and his Dad)...

https://www.propublica.org/article/t...bidens-brother

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/25/u...en-sister.html

PS ..yes I did read the book
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Old 16.10.2020, 22:33
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I find it fascinating that it is the "summum malum" when republicans make the most of their opportunities financially and are criticized, but Joe, Pelosi are exempt? Shouldn't they both (Republicans and Democrats) be held accountable?

I guess you have no time nor interest to read the book I referenced and no worries Marton. Here are some links regarding Joe's siblings (we'll leave Hunter out of it as there are too many articles on him and his Dad)...

https://www.propublica.org/article/t...bidens-brother

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/25/u...en-sister.html

PS ..yes I did read the book
Thanks but none of those fall within a definition of a shady deal, not like getting a $2M fine for running a charity as your private piggy bank.
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Thanks but none of those fall within a definition of a shady deal, not like getting a $2M fine for running a charity as your private piggy bank.
Are we talking "shady" now? Look know further than Hunter and Barisma and China and do the math as they say...
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Here you go regarding "middle class" Joe and his humble origins and how he and his family leveraged that:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ampaign-227407
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Benefiting from relative's positions is normal from the Queen of England to Trump, my question was what were these shady deals?
I assume you read that book so you can inform us?

Or is it just jealousy when people make the best of their opportunities?
Hunter had the oppurtunity of a lifetime when his dad handed him a cushy Navy career on a silver platter. He blew it on coke instead.
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Are we talking "shady" now? Look know further than Hunter and Barisma and China and do the math as they say...
Please clearly state what you believe is shady in "Hunter and Barisma and China".

For example, it is claimed China offered Hunter millions for lobbying which is a perfectly legal activity in the USA but there is no evidence that he accepted the offer. It is all peanuts anyway, lobbying spending reached $3.4 billion in 2018.

No criminal charges were proven against Burisma. The company issued a statement in 2017 saying "all legal proceedings and pending criminal allegations" against it were closed.

Last year, Yuriy Lutsenko, the prosecutor in Ukraine who succeeded Viktor Shokin, told the BBC that there was no reason to investigate the Bidens under Ukrainian law.
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Please clearly state what you believe is shady in "Hunter and Barisma and China".

For example, it is claimed China offered Hunter millions for lobbying which is a perfectly legal activity in the USA but there is no evidence that he accepted the offer. It is all peanuts anyway, lobbying spending reached $3.4 billion in 2018.

No criminal charges were proven against Burisma. The company issued a statement in 2017 saying "all legal proceedings and pending criminal allegations" against it were closed.

Last year, Yuriy Lutsenko, the prosecutor in Ukraine who succeeded Viktor Shokin, told the BBC that there was no reason to investigate the Bidens under Ukrainian law.
Do I have to quote passages from the book I read 10 months ago? Maybe you should read the book perhaps?

Here you go for lack of a better source:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/knowl...SAAEgLuYvD_BwE
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Hunter had the oppurtunity of a lifetime when his dad handed him a cushy Navy career on a silver platter. He blew it on coke instead.
Are you really that dense that you're not able to understand that Joe Biden is not responsible for what his son does or has done in the past?

It's like the right is just soo desperate to try to portray Biden being guilty of something... ANYTHING.

Anyone with a basic understanding of psychology will recognize this behavior for being the psychological projection that it is. Not to mention the manipulation tactic of implanting ideas in people's minds in order to exploit their gullibility and cognitive dissonance.

Sorry, Full Circle... But anything that Joe Biden's son does -- and anything that you and the right try to make Joe Biden look guilty of -- is not going to make Trump look any better or excuse Trump's own behavior.
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Here you go regarding "middle class" Joe and his humble origins and how he and his family leveraged that:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ampaign-227407
It is a nothing burger.
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Old 16.10.2020, 23:14
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Do I have to quote passages from the book I read 10 months ago? Maybe you should read the book perhaps?

Here you go for lack of a better source:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/knowl...SAAEgLuYvD_BwE
From your link.
"We know that there was corruption on the part of the Bidens in the Ukraine. We got the affidavits, we got the testimony"

This is nonsense, where are these affidavits and testimony?
Why have they never been produced?
Why were they not shared with the Senate investigation into Hunter?

This commentator knows so little about the subject he writes "in the Ukraine" which is incorrect; correct is "in Ukraine".
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