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Comes back to what are these dealings? Nobody seems to know.

So far the only alleged link to Joe is that it is claimed Hunter said to him one day "Hey dad, I got a new job with a company in Ukraine".
No Marton...there is more to Joe's info and involvement... Read more
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Agree... What has Russia got to do with anything? I don't like the timing of the Hunter Biden exposure/leak, but I do think Biden was complicit and knew about his son's dealings.
To me, it’s more feasible that Russia is creating an elaborate farce to distract and deflect.

So much phony baloney flying around.
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Trump probably has the better chance, but I hope for their sake (and the rest of the worlds) that it's Biden.
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Wow, just watching Trumps Town Hall in full now... what an absolute car crash. If he was some fringe right-win party representative with no political power or influence just airing his thoughts then you could understand it to some extent... but a POTUS? Absolute insanity.


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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Corruption in the White House? Never!
Electoral voting represents all the people? Sure!

"Sarcasm"

If I have to choose between a corrupt Biden or a corrupt Trump, I'll choose Biden every time.
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And Trumps’s children? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...19/vi-BB19tHDK
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After being assured on these pages that postal voting wouldn’t be abused, we now have news of 372 THOUSAND ballots being rejected in one state alone!!

No doubt people will point to this as evidence that the system is working, can’t wait for the legal cases

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...lowing-primary
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After being assured on these pages that postal voting wouldn’t be abused, we now have news of 372 THOUSAND ballots being rejected in one state alone!!

No doubt people will point to this as evidence that the system is working, can’t wait for the legal cases

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...lowing-primary
These were not ballots.
They were duplicate applications to be sent the ballot papers for voting, your link explains why people were confused and applied a second time.
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

I just watched that town hall event and I must say Trump did a much better job than I had expected. He came across far kinder than usual and his arguments were well-prepared.
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After being assured on these pages that postal voting wouldn’t be abused, we now have news of 372 THOUSAND ballots being rejected in one state alone!!

No doubt people will point to this as evidence that the system is working, can’t wait for the legal cases

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...lowing-primary
You don't even read the sources you cite. As marton says, it's absentee ballot requests that have been rejected. This isn't due to people trying to commit fraud. It's due to voter confusion.

Political parties and special interest groups mail out absentee ballot requests to try and get voters to turn out. Some states decided to send out requests too, in order to facilitate the process this fall if people didn't want to vote in person. Voters receive multiple mailings, and have even before this year. Voters see on the news that they should request a ballot by a certain time. So just to be safe, they send multiple requests.

Statewide systems track when the request was received, when the ballot was sent, when it was returned, and whether it was counted or rejected. This is done with specific voter ID numbers in the statewide system and tracking barcodes for the mail.

In Pennsylvania, they've seen an uptick in duplicate requests but that doesn't mean they've sent out multiple ballots to the same person.
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You don't even read the sources you cite. As marton says, it's absentee ballot requests that have been rejected. This isn't due to people trying to commit fraud. It's due to voter confusion.

Political parties and special interest groups mail out absentee ballot requests to try and get voters to turn out. Some states decided to send out requests too, in order to facilitate the process this fall if people didn't want to vote in person. Voters receive multiple mailings, and have even before this year. Voters see on the news that they should request a ballot by a certain time. So just to be safe, they send multiple requests.

Statewide systems track when the request was received, when the ballot was sent, when it was returned, and whether it was counted or rejected. This is done with specific voter ID numbers in the statewide system and tracking barcodes for the mail.

In Pennsylvania, they've seen an uptick in duplicate requests but that doesn't mean they've sent out multiple ballots to the same person.
A system where 372 thousand ballot applications are rejected in one state is one that is absolutely running smoothly and which isn't leaving itself open to legal challenges and abuse
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Old 18.10.2020, 21:08
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A system where 372 thousand ballot applications are rejected in one state is one that is absolutely running smoothly and which isn't leaving itself open to legal challenges and abuse
Good, you got the key point
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I just watched that town hall event and I must say Trump did a much better job than I had expected. He came across far kinder than usual and his arguments were well-prepared.
He's a shape-shifter, though. He's desperate to be re-elected and will say anything and adjust his behavior accordingly in order to get there. I bet he was also trying to behave considering how much heat he got for his behavior in the debate with Biden.

He's also good at lying with a straight face. Remember when he was on camera saying that the virus is no big deal and would just go away like a miracle, though he already knew how dangerous it is? He is a master manipulator.

Remember when Ted Bundy had people convinced how charming and innocent he was?
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To me, it’s more feasible that Russia is creating an elaborate farce to distract and deflect.

So much phony baloney flying around.
Sorry..but think you need to read more sources. Much as Twitter and FB tried to shut this story down, (that in itself is EXTREMELY troubling!) it has merit.

And I love how every time the Dems have an issue, they claim "Russia". So prove it then. How did Russia interfere exactly? I am curious...

Peter Schweizer published his book in January 2020. It implied much of the info referenced here and neither Biden nor his campaign sued for libel. Why would they not if his/Schweizer's claims were not true? Namely, Biden knew about Hunter's business dealings and met with officials from China to facilitate Hunter's business? And who knows about Barisma and other business ventures?

We won't even go into the laptop and the emails there. But this is a "Russian" disinformation campaign? Please...you are more intelligent than that! Read and investigate more....
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I actually use this website frequently as they post articles from left, center and right:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com

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Sorry..but think you need to read more sources. Much as Twitter and FB tried to shut this story down, (that in itself is EXTREMELY troubling!) it has merit.

And I love how every time the Dems have an issue, they claim "Russia". So prove it then. How did Russia interfere exactly? I am curious...

Peter Schweizer published his book in January 2020. It implied much of the info referenced here and neither Biden nor his campaign sued for libel. Why would they not if his/Schweizer's claims were not true? Namely, Biden knew about Hunter's business dealings and met with officials from China to facilitate Hunter's business? And who knows about Barisma and other business ventures?

We won't even go into the laptop and the emails there. But this is a "Russian" disinformation campaign? Please...you are more intelligent than that! Read and investigate more....
I don't blame Russian interference for everything, but you should just do a Google search for the term "Russian bots" and do some research about how they invent and spread misinformation on the Internet and social media in order to manipulate public perception.

Russian Web Brigades
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_web_brigades

How Russian Bots Appear in Your Timeline
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-41982569

The Russian troll factory at the heart of the meddling allegations
Former workers tell how hundreds of bloggers are paid to flood forums and social networks at home and abroad with anti-western and pro-Kremlin comments
Thirteen Russians charged with interfering in US election
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...an-troll-house

Computational Propaganda in Russia: The Origins of Digital Misinformation
https://www.google.com/search?q=Chri...w=1920&bih=966
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I don't blame Russian interference for everything, but you should just do a Google search for the term "Russian bots" and do some research about how they invent and spread misinformation on the Internet and social media in order to manipulate public perception.

Russian Web Brigades
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_web_brigades

How Russian Bots Appear in Your Timeline
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-41982569

The Russian troll factory at the heart of the meddling allegations
Former workers tell how hundreds of bloggers are paid to flood forums and social networks at home and abroad with anti-western and pro-Kremlin comments
Thirteen Russians charged with interfering in US election
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...an-troll-house

Computational Propaganda in Russia: The Origins of Digital Misinformation
https://www.google.com/search?q=Chri...w=1920&bih=966
Pancakes... despite your numerous links, enlighten me how this plays into Hunter Biden? As I referenced, Schweitzer's book was published in January 2020. In that book, he went into great detail about Hunter's activities and Joe's involvement and he referenced many sources. If not true, why didn't Biden sue for libel at THAT time? Schweizer's sources and references were considerable.

How is this now "Russian Interference"??? I don't know what more to say here but what a complete farce to claim Russian involvement.
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

In a bizarre situation, the US President is organising and campaigning at rallies that are almost the only mass participation events with no social distancing taking place in the US. All in complete contravention of his own public health administration advice.

With 392,000 new cases in the past week (Johns Hopkins) Trump should be concentrating on stopping the coronavirus not spreading it.

Election Day is 15 days away and more than 27 million ballots have already been cast, around 20% of the total number cast in 2016. Consequently campaigning now is addressing a severely declining number of people.
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President Trump mockingly warned at his rally in Nevada late Sunday that Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden would “listen to the scientists” if elected and there would be more lockdowns to curb the spread of the COVID-19.
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Wow.

It's interesting how he essentially praises science when it comes to a new drug that cured him of COVID but then negates the validity of science and scientists otherwise.
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