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Also bizarre


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He has a point there, assuming that he means that he shouldn't listen only to scientists.
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Joe Biden’s visible anger when questioned about Hunter


Time for a couple of groans methinks!
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Joe Biden’s visible anger when questioned about Hunter


Time for a couple of groans methinks!
Two guys talking is proof?
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Sorry..but think you need to read more sources. Much as Twitter and FB tried to shut this story down, (that in itself is EXTREMELY troubling!) it has merit.

And I love how every time the Dems have an issue, they claim "Russia". So prove it then. How did Russia interfere exactly? I am curious...

Peter Schweizer published his book in January 2020. It implied much of the info referenced here and neither Biden nor his campaign sued for libel. Why would they not if his/Schweizer's claims were not true? Namely, Biden knew about Hunter's business dealings and met with officials from China to facilitate Hunter's business? And who knows about Barisma and other business ventures?

We won't even go into the laptop and the emails there. But this is a "Russian" disinformation campaign? Please...you are more intelligent than that! Read and investigate more....
My reluctance to delve into the rabbit hole of conspiracy thinking is no measure of my intellect, I assure you. And while Mr Schweizer may be a fine investigator, he has a serious axe to grind. His association with Bannon is enough to turn me off anything he writes. That's my bias, and it is strong.

I'm sure Hunter Biden has some skeletons in his closet. Has he any more than the grifter offspring of the current president? Can he wreck anymore havoc than the utter failure that has been Kuschner. I don't know. But he is not the political candidate and neither are the grifter offspring.

I have serious election fatigue, serious anti science fatigue and serious conspiracy thinking fatigue. I'm going to look at happy pictures of puppies on the internet and hope that Trump is defeated.
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Old 19.10.2020, 17:57
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Sorry..but think you need to read more sources. Much as Twitter and FB tried to shut this story down, (that in itself is EXTREMELY troubling!) it has merit.

And I love how every time the Dems have an issue, they claim "Russia". So prove it then. How did Russia interfere exactly? I am curious...

Peter Schweizer published his book in January 2020. It implied much of the info referenced here and neither Biden nor his campaign sued for libel. Why would they not if his/Schweizer's claims were not true? Namely, Biden knew about Hunter's business dealings and met with officials from China to facilitate Hunter's business? And who knows about Barisma and other business ventures?

We won't even go into the laptop and the emails there. But this is a "Russian" disinformation campaign? Please...you are more intelligent than that! Read and investigate more....
So where are the emails?
So far we only saw fotos of what are claimed to be the original emails.
Anyway emails from Hunter would be useful evidence but emails to Hunter are meaningless.
For example, I could send you an EF private message claiming you emptied the collection plate at your local church into your pocket but that is not proof of anything. It is simply an evidence free allegation.

As to libel, Schweizer would just claim the First Amendment.
A public figure cannot succeed in a lawsuit on incorrect harmful statements in the United States unless there is proof that the writer or publisher acted with actual malice by knowing the falsity or by reckless disregard for the truth. The legal burden of proof in defamation actions is thus higher in the case of a public figure than in the case of an ordinary person.

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Oh, my...enough with Hunter Biden. He's no candidate in this election. Is everyone assuming that, because the current president is employing some of his family members (who are corrupt as hell) that the democratic candidate would as well? Maybe, let's wait and see. In the meantime, the debate should be about the candidates themselves.
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

To all and everyone on this thread quaffing Kool-Aid.
As the guy below says, “It’s as transparent as I see things before me now. If you can’t see it maybe you’ve been brainwashed….."



Oh, eff me I forgot. He's got long hair, nothing he says can have any substance. lol
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He has a point there, assuming that he means that he shouldn't listen only to scientists.
But it’s pretty clear that’s not what he means.
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To all and everyone on this thread quaffing Kool-Aid.
As the guy below says, “It’s as transparent as I see things before me now. If you can’t see it maybe you’ve been brainwashed….."

Oh, eff me I forgot. He's got long hair, nothing he says can have any substance. lol
You could also share his videos claiming Syria nerve gas bombing of its citizens was a false flag operation
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Old 19.10.2020, 20:55
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Syria nerve gas bombing of its citizens was a false flag operation

Some of them were false flag
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Old 19.10.2020, 21:46
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Pancakes... despite your numerous links, enlighten me how this plays into Hunter Biden? As I referenced, Schweitzer's book was published in January 2020. In that book, he went into great detail about Hunter's activities and Joe's involvement and he referenced many sources. If not true, why didn't Biden sue for libel at THAT time? Schweizer's sources and references were considerable.

How is this now "Russian Interference"??? I don't know what more to say here but what a complete farce to claim Russian involvement.
I never said that that was due to Russian interference. I even specifically stated that I don't blame Russia for everything. But you had asked why some people are quick to blame Russian interference or "the Russians" (as you put it) for things, and I explained why.

Anyways, I'm still not sure why Hunter Biden is on trial here. He's not running for President.
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To all and everyone on this thread quaffing Kool-Aid.
As the guy below says, “It’s as transparent as I see things before me now. If you can’t see it maybe you’ve been brainwashed….."

//removed shitty youtube

Oh, eff me I forgot. He's got long hair, nothing he says can have any substance. lol
you just posted a video from a holocaust revisionist cringelord... awesome sources, my dude..
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Old 19.10.2020, 22:18
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Anyways, I'm still not sure why Hunter Biden is on trial here. He's not running for President.
No he is not running for President, but if the allegations are true then Biden looks very dirty. Biden could be completely innocent, I don't know but neither do people who are blindly defending him.

What is definitely true is that if Trump was in a similar situation, the MSM would have been on it 24/7, proof or no proof. Sorry I am just looking at it objectively.
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I have serious election fatigue, serious anti science fatigue and serious conspiracy thinking fatigue. I'm going to look at happy pictures of puppies on the internet and hope that Trump is defeated.

Thank you, brilliant post.
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To all and everyone on this thread quaffing Kool-Aid.
As the guy below says, “It’s as transparent as I see things before me now. If you can’t see it maybe you’ve been brainwashed….."

Oh, eff me I forgot. He's got long hair, nothing he says can have any substance. lol
Holy crap... https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Styxhexenhammer666

This forum is slowly being taken over by absolute cretins. It's been a slow but steady decline over the last few years, but we are now at the stage where alt-right nutters and conspiracy theorists have a voice, nay even a home, on this forum. For shame.
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Holy crap... https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Styxhexenhammer666

This forum is slowly being taken over by absolute cretins. It's been a slow but steady decline over the last few years, but we are now at the stage where alt-right nutters and conspiracy theorists have a voice, nay even a home, on this forum. For shame.
I had no idea who that guy was. I just agreed with the point he made on that particular video.
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I had no idea who that guy was. I just agreed with the point he made on that particular video.

The guy looks like a presenter of Ancient Aliens.
https://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens


If you look like that, it doesn't really matter what you say.
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No he is not running for President, but if the allegations are true then Biden looks very dirty. Biden could be completely innocent, I don't know but neither do people who are blindly defending him.

What is definitely true is that if Trump was in a similar situation, the MSM would have been on it 24/7, proof or no proof. Sorry I am just looking at it objectively.
Trump’s kids are just as bad. They really are a bunch of grifters. At least Ivanka, Don jr and Eric. So they all work in the WH/ on his re-election campaign.
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I could tell immediately that he is one of those people who are addicted to getting attention on their youtube channel (or whatever), and it looks like I was right.

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https://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens
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Political parties and special interest groups mail out absentee ballot requests to try and get voters to turn out. Some states decided to send out requests too, in order to facilitate the process this fall if people didn't want to vote in person. Voters receive multiple mailings, and have even before this year. Voters see on the news that they should request a ballot by a certain time. So just to be safe, they send multiple requests.
This^. I would estimate each member of our household has received 4-7 absentee ballot request forms in the last two months, coming from various groups including the Trump campaign, our state board of elections as well as various voter information groups (some partisan, some not).

The official state application came later than most, so if I had submitted one from one of the more questionable groups earlier, I would have sent the "official" one in as well.
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