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If you don't understand what is wrong with your comment then there really is no hope for you.
I want to believe he's being facetious and sarcastic. It's either that or a permaban...so sarcasm it should be.
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This reads like an out-and-out GOP campaign ad. You have used exactly the terminology that Trump uses, word for word, in his baseless and disproven attacks on Biden. I've bolded the most obvious false claims. There is no proof of any of these (except for Biden being "part of the swamp", if you think that's an appropriate way to describe someone who has dedicated nearly half a century to public service. Of course, every GOP senator, every GOP representative is also "part of the swamp").

Case in point, the claims arising from "Hunter Biden's emails". The claim is that Hunter dropped his Mac laptop and an external hard drive off in a store in Wilmington, Delaware, for repair of some problem -- despite the fact that he lives across the country in LA. The store owner states that the man who dropped the laptop off was Hunter Biden -- despite being legally blind and admitting that he could not identify him. (The man supposedly told the store owner that he was Hunter Biden.) Oddly, the man never returned to collect the equipment. The "emails" are vague and non-committal. The store owner contacted several congressmen about the contents of the laptop, who did nothing. Then he contacted the FBI, who seized the laptop and took no action whatsoever.

So far, a huge nothing burger. Then, "somehow", Rudy Giuliani got to hear about the laptop and was given a copy of the files on it. Giuliani has been proven to coordinate with a Russian disinformation campaign aimed at discrediting Joe Biden, and doesn't deny this contact. Steve Bannon got involved, trying to hawk the "bombshell" story around the media, none of which -- including FOX News -- would publish it as they did not find the source credible. Eventually, Rupert Murdoch's NY Post published it. But even then, the author of the story refused to put his name to it, and follow-up stories were co-written by a former producer of Sean Hannity's show on FOX News.

All in all, a very clear, albeit very amateurish, hit job by Giuliani and Bannon, with absolutely no substance. The story was treated as a joke by all the reputable media and has been comprehensively discredited. Yet those with a resolutely blinkered view of politics manage to believe and amplify this pack of lies. Your choice of terminology, phrases lifted directly from Trump, demonstrates your bias very clearly and, shall we say, "calls into question" your claim not to be a Trump fan.
And your bias, 22 Yards, is also quite clear! Regarding that this "story was treated as a joke by all reputable media", I gather you don't consider the Washington Post or the Wall Street Journal reputable? Or, let me guess, they also use "clear" rhetoric which illustrates that they are secret Trump fans? Please!! Maybe you should expand the list of reading sources which challenge your viewpoint instead of reinforcing your own narrative.

Here is the link to the WAPO article calling for a special counsel investigation into Hunter Biden and whether Joe personally profited from Hunter's business deals:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...n-allegations/

And one of the WSJ:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/now-cor...er-11603392288
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I want to believe he's being facetious and sarcastic. It's either that or a permaban...so sarcasm it should be.
Why would I be banned for something Pancakes uncle said? Am I not allowed to find it funny?
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Here is a great website which links salient articles from both right and left leaning publications:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com
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Old 23.10.2020, 14:22
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I want to believe he's being facetious and sarcastic. It's either that or a permaban...so sarcasm it should be.
I have no idea, but from what I remember seeing Full Circle say in the past about blacks and other ethic groups, etc., I took it literally. And even if it was sarcasm, I think it was in very bad taste.
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Old 23.10.2020, 14:23
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Why would I be banned for something Pancakes uncle said? Am I not allowed to find it funny?
No, man, I'm saying that I thought you were being facetious...inviting someone SO racist to EF and calling him a legend. Someone who got fired for calling someone a "towel head".

To be honest, I don't find that funny at all. If anything, it's just justice being made. You call a colleague derogatory names because of their ethnic background...get fired. As natural as gravity.

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And even if it was sarcasm, I think it was in very bad taste.
Yeap, that's why I called it facetious, which I understand is treating something serious with deliberately inadecuate humor. I never saw anyone making clearly racist comments here, at least not yet, so I didn't assume that was the case here either. Flippant, yes, but not racist.
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Old 23.10.2020, 14:24
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Why would I be banned for something Pancakes uncle said? Am I not allowed to find it funny?
I just noticed your comment...

I guess you're allowed to find it funny. But do you REALLY think it's funny when someone is bullied at their workplace by racist idiots?

And of course, the irony is that you just ended proving and exemplifying my original point -- that a lot of the Trump supporters that I've encountered are racist.
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Old 23.10.2020, 14:26
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This just isn't accurate or fair, the highest percentage wage increase since records began was a direct result of lower taxes and less regulation. Employment was at its highest ever pre-Covid, as well for the Black community. Other notable points to the legacy of his administration has been getting his Supreme Court picks into the job, the First Step Act which has given much more flexibility with mandatory sentencing allowing non-violent offenders to rehabilitate thus massively improving the criminal justice system for the better and he's also toned down the war on drugs. The greatest achievement, which isn't really an achievement at all however something that all US presidents can't seem to resist, is being far less interventionist in his foreign policy. How many lives has that saved?
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"there were 2,243 drone strikes in the first two years of the Trump presidency, compared with 1,878 in Mr Obama's eight years in office"

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Old 23.10.2020, 14:29
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And your bias, 22 Yards, is also quite clear! Regarding that this "story was treated as a joke by all reputable media", I gather you don't consider the Washington Post or the Wall Street Journal reputable? Or, let me guess, they also use "clear" rhetoric which illustrates that they are secret Trump fans? Please!! Maybe you should expand the list of reading sources which challenge your viewpoint instead of reinforcing your own narrative.

Here is the link to the WAPO article calling for a special counsel investigation into Hunter Biden and whether Joe personally profited from Hunter's business deals:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...n-allegations/

And one of the WSJ:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/now-cor...er-11603392288
Edit: both your links are clearly decribed as opinions.

Please do not confuse opinion pieces written by commentators with news articles written by proper journalists by describing them as articles.
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I just noticed your comment...

I guess you're allowed to find it funny. But do you REALLY think it's funny when someone is bullied at their workplace by racist idiots?
I don't like bullying but I did find the comment funny. The fact that he was fired for it is kind of the cherry on top
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Old 23.10.2020, 14:53
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I don't like bullying but I did find the comment funny. The fact that he was fired for it is kind of the cherry on top
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What a legend! We need to get him on EF.
And then a few posts later, you followed it up by saying that you think his racist comment was funny.

You claim to not like bullying but you think that racist comments directed at coworkers is funny?
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And then a few posts later, you followed it up by saying that you think his racist comment was funny.

You claim to not like bullying but you think that racist comments directed at coworkers is funny?
Timing is everything. But yes, I thought your uncle's comment and subsequent firing was very funny.
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Timing is everything. But yes, I thought your uncle's comment and subsequent firing was very funny.
So that's why you called him a legend and said you want him on the EF?

You know, it really shouldn't be surprising that you're a Trump-supporter, because you change your story just like Trump does. When you're called out on your bullsh*t, you try to change the narrative.

I'm going to do us both a favor (as well as anyone else observing this) and block you now, because frankly, I find dealing with you to be about as enjoyable as I imagine being at a flat earth convention or a white supremacist rally would be.

Stephen Hawking's final words of advice to humanity was "Be aware of the preciousness of time."

I'm tired of wasting mine on trying to engage in rational conversations with irrational people.
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C’mon you guys. If you don’t like what someone is saying just ignore them.

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And your bias, 22 Yards, is also quite clear! Regarding that this "story was treated as a joke by all reputable media", I gather you don't consider the Washington Post or the Wall Street Journal reputable? Or, let me guess, they also use "clear" rhetoric which illustrates that they are secret Trump fans? Please!! Maybe you should expand the list of reading sources which challenge your viewpoint instead of reinforcing your own narrative.

Here is the link to the WAPO article calling for a special counsel investigation into Hunter Biden and whether Joe personally profited from Hunter's business deals:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...n-allegations/

And one of the WSJ:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/now-cor...er-11603392288
Both behind paywalls.

Take a look at who owns the WSJ...
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So that's why you called him a legend and said you want him on the EF?
I thought it was understood it was meant tounge in cheek. As funny as your uncle seems I don't really believe we need his opinions and insights on the English Forum of Switzerland.

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You know, it really shouldn't be surprising that you're a Trump-supporter, because you change your story just like Trump does. When you're called out on your bullsh*t, you try to change the narrative.
I answered your questions honestly.
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Here is a great website which links salient articles from both right and left leaning publications:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com
And has a right-centre bias, with reporting described as "mostly factual".

If this is the most balanced reporting you're prepared to read, it says a lot for your bias.
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And has a right-centre bias, with reporting described as "mostly factual".

If this is the most balanced reporting you're prepared to read, it says a lot for your bias.
Go visit the site please instead of relying on third party info to form your opinion. Depending on the day, they publish articles from CNN, The Atlantic, Rolling Stone, The Guardian, NYT and other 'reputable" left of center publications
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Edit: both your links are clearly decribed as opinions.

Please do not confuse opinion pieces written by commentators with news articles written by proper journalists by describing them as articles.

Ask yourself why the left leaning The Washington Post, would ever publish an opinion piece if it didn't believe it warranted publication?

PS, on today's Real Clear site, they have articles from The Slate, Vox, NBC News, NY Magazine and The New Yorker in addition to WSJ, The Spectator, The Federalist and the Hill so I would say that is fairly balanced in terms of right/left representation.
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Altough I do prefer an easy life, I don't I don't get why I did the same. In what premade boxes did I put anyone?
You imply that I can't be bothered with the actual content of a message. Just like that, without even knowing me or why I have the position I have. That's putting in a premade box, as you call it.
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