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Below is a link to an article from Matt Taibibi which is well worth the read. As background, Taibibi, is a journalist from Rolling Stone who has become increasingly worried about the "state of the union"/bias in the US press and it's selective reporting or non reporting/lack of investigation.

I subscribe to his newsletter but below is a link to his article:

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/with-t...uppression-136
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Nah, terrifisch is not a Trump supporter. I took her posts as being critical of some of the democrats, particularly the most visible ones.

Trump supporters or the so called devil's advocates (cough cough) have a different stye. It's their trademark. Terrifisch was never aggressive and contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. Or succumbed to ad hominem.
I also included Republicans in that "swamp" mix . Should have added Lindsay Graham to that group. I am sure there are many others. The problem remains: how to fix this issue? Term limits perhaps? Not an easy fix...

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This is even better by Kimberley Strassel - on the editorial board at the WSJ and given access to texts/emails etc... by a former colleague of Hunter Biden's. Say what you want but Strassel makes a compelling argument. I am copying her op-ed as it is behind a pay wall:

The Biden ‘Family Legacy’
What we learned from the text messages of Hunter’s partner Tony Bobulinski.

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Potomac Watch: As former business partner, Tony Bobulinski, attests that Hunter Biden did refer to his father as "the big guy"—the news media remains silent. Images: AP/New York Post Composite: Mark Kelly
Joe Biden has a problem, and his name is Hunter. Because the former vice president hasn’t had to answer any questions on this topic—and continued to refuse to do so in Thursday’s debate—that problem could soon become America’s.

That’s the reality now that a former business partner of Hunter Biden’s has come forward to provide the ugly details of the “family brand.” Tony Bobulinski, a Navy veteran and institutional investor, has provided the Journal emails and text messages associated with his time as CEO of Sinohawk Holdings, a venture between the Bidens and CEFC China Energy, a Shanghai-based conglomerate. That correspondence corroborates and expands on emails recently published by the New York Post, which says they come from a Hunter laptop.

In a statement, Mr. Bobulinski said he went public because he wants to clear his name, which was contained in those published emails, and because accusations that the information is fake or “Russian disinformation” are “offensive.” He attests that all the correspondence he provided is genuine, including documents that suggest Hunter was cashing in on the Biden name and that Joe Biden was involved. Mr. Bobulinski says he was also alarmed by a September report from Sens. Ron Johnson and Chuck Grassley that “connected some dots” on the CEFC deal, causing him now to believe the Bidens sold out their U.S. partners.

Mr. Bobulinski’s text messages show he was recruited for the project by James Gilliar, a Hunter associate. Mr. Gilliar explains in a December 2015 text that there will be a deal between the Chinese and “one of the most prominent families from the U.S.” A month later he introduces Rob Walker, also “a partner of Biden.” In March 2016, Mr. Gilliar tells Mr. Bobulinski the Chinese entity is CEFC, which is shaping up to be “the Goldmans of China.” Mr. Gilliar promises that same month to “develop” the terms of a deal “with hunter.” Note that in 2015-16, Joe Biden was still vice president.

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As the deal takes shape in 2017, Mr. Bobulinski begins to question what Hunter will contribute besides his name, and worries that he was “kicked out of US Navy for cocaine use.” Mr. Gilliar acknowledges “skill sets [sic] missing” and observes that Hunter “has a few demons.” He explains that “in brand [Hunter is] imperative but right know [sic] he’s not essential for adding input.” Mr. Bobulinski writes that he appreciates “the name/leverage being used” but thinks the economic “upside” should go to the team doing the actual work. Mr. Gilliar reminds him that those on the Chinese side “are intelligence so they understand the value added.”


This dispute almost derails the deal. Hunter is hardly visible through most of the work, until final contract negotiations ramp up in mid-May. He brings in his uncle Jim Biden for a stake. (Mr. Gilliar in a text message soothes Mr. Bobulinski with a promise that Jim’s addition “strengthens our USP”—unique selling proposition—“to the Chinese as it looks like a truly family business.”) Hunter in texts and emails wants offices in three U.S. cities, “significant” travel budgets, a stipend for Jim Biden, a job for an assistant, and more-frequent distributions of any gains. As for annual pay, he explains in an email that he expects “a hell of a lot more than 850” thousand dollars a year (the amount Mr. Bobulinski, the CEO, is getting), since his ex-wife will take nearly all of it.

Mr. Bobulinksi pushes back, warning Mr. Gilliar in a text that they need to “manage” Hunter because “he thinks things are going to be his personal piggybank.” The duo worry about his “mental state,” substance abuse, and his ability to make meetings.

Hunter, in his own angry texts, makes clear that his contribution is his name. He rails at Mr. Bobulinski that the CEFC heads are “coming to be MY partner to be partners with the Bidens.” He reminds him “that in this instance only one player holds the trump card and that’s me. May not be fair but it’s the reality because I’m the only one putting an entire family legacy on the line.” Mr. Gilliar privately tells Mr. Bobulinski to show flexibility, since “I know why [CEFC Chairman Ye Jianming] wants the deal and what makes it enormous, It’s the family name.”

CEFC was closely entwined with the Chinese government and military until it went bankrupt, following U.S. charges of money laundering. There is no question CEFC was buying Hunter for influence.

Joe Biden claims he has never discussed his son’s business. Yet a May 2017 “expectations” document shows Hunter receiving 20% of the equity in the venture and holding another 10% for “the big guy”—who Mr. Bobulinski attests is Joe Biden.

In one text, Hunter says that “my Chairman gave an emphatic NO” to a version of the deal. Mr. Walker, Hunter’s partner, explains in a text to Mr. Bobulinski that when Hunter “said his chairman he was talking about his dad.”

Mr. Bobulinski’s texts show he even met with Joe Biden. Mr. Gilliar reminds him in May 2017: “Don’t mention Joe being involved, it’s only when u are face to face, I know u know that but they are paranoid.” Mr. Biden had left office by then, though CEFC was always a suspicious company with ties to a rival government. It would have a been risky for any public figure to deal with it, much less a potential presidential candidate. Mr. Biden was given ample opportunity to deny the authenticity or facts of the Bobulinski information at Thursday’s debate; he didn’t.


The deal fell through on the Chinese end in the summer of 2017. CEFC was supposed to supply $10 million; it never arrived. This is where the Johnson report comes in. The Senate report notes that CEFC wired $5 million to a company called Hudson West in August 2017. The report says an associate of CEFC Chairman Ye in September opened a line of credit under Hudson West’s name, and Hunter, Jim Biden and Jim Biden’s wife, Sara, were given credit cards associated with the account, and bought items totaling more than $100,000.

The report says Hudson West also sent $4.7 million in “consulting fees” to Mr. Biden’s law firm over the course of a year. Mr. Bobulinski suspects Hunter and Jim had found an easier way to cash in on their name, one that didn’t involve pesky partners and complex deals. He sent a furious text to Jim Biden after the release of the Senate report, accusing Hunter and Jim of “lying” to their partners and secretly taking money from CEFC. The FBI last year subpoenaed Hunter’s laptop. A call to Hunter Biden’s attorney was not returned by our deadline.

All of this is news. The press corps that is ignoring it spent four years writing about Donald Trump’s Moscow business. The correspondence meanwhile blows up Rep. Adam Schiff’s claim that the Hunter story is Russian “disinformation.” It raises real concerns about what security risks Hunter might pose for a Biden administration. And it raises questions about Joe Biden’s involvement.

The former vice president is running on trust and good judgment. The Hunter tale is at best the story of a wayward son and indulgent father. At worst, it is an example of the entire Biden clan cashing in on its name with a U.S. rival. As Mr. Biden refuses to answer questions about this case, voters will have to make up their own minds. But given Hunter’s exploits in China, Ukraine, Kazakhstan and elsewhere, much more is yet to come—in the next week and a half and potentially in a Biden presidency.

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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

@terrifisch

This a weak attempt to recreate the Comey/Hillary/email moment that helped Trump in the days before the 2016 election.

Basically, it is a rewrite of the Senate report on the Biden's which itself had nothing substantial in it against the Bidens.

The WSJ op-ed claims to have additional emails and text messages but failed to produce even one, Bobulinski had a press conference before the last Presidential debate and also failed to release any of the documents he claims to have.

Mr Bobulinski himself is involved in a number of million$ lawsuits where he was so far unsuccessful and is being sued in US courts to pay up the judgments against him in offshore courts.

Unlike Trump, Biden has released his tax returns that do not show any foreign payments to the former vice president.
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It's so pathetic... How desperate Trump and the GOP are right now.

Trump owes hundred of millions to the Chinese, has Chinese bank accounts, has used his role as President to make money for his properties, is being investigated for tax fraud and has a son-in-law who does business with the Chinese. Not to mention already being impeached for using his role as President to try to bribe a foreign leader. And yet here they are, desperately trying to blame Joe Biden for something that his son may have done years ago.

At least if Joe Biden does win, he will have been able to achieve that without having to resort to manipulation and dirty politics.

I'm sure Joe Biden is no saint (who is?), but next to Trump, he certainly does seem like one.
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So let me get this straight Marton... You really believe that Biden played no role in his son's business ventures?

I find that astounding on all levels. Why hasn't Biden addressed the emails directly nor issued a comment on the laptop and emails leaked?

How did the Biden family amass their fortune...given their humble background?

That is not even addressing the text messages forwarded to the FBI notwithstanding emails.

Good old Biden is part of the swamp and he and his family reaped financial rewards because of his position. That is beyond obvious. The question is: did Biden himself also benefit and did he compromise US diplomacy?

I am inclined to believe Yes...but we shall see...
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So let me get this straight Marton... You really believe that Biden played no role in his son's business ventures?

I find that astounding on all levels. Why hasn't Biden addressed the emails directly nor issued a comment on the laptop and emails leaked?

How did the Biden family amass their fortune...given their humble background?

That is not even addressing the text messages forwarded to the FBI notwithstanding emails.

Good old Biden is part of the swamp and he and his family reaped financial rewards because of his position. That is beyond obvious. The question is: did Biden himself also benefit and did he compromise US diplomacy?

I am inclined to believe Yes...but we shall see...
I believe there is no solid evidence of Joe's role, if some are produced I will change my mind.

So far all we have some emails of poor provenance which Guliani's former associate Lev Parnas claims were circulating around early in 2019 with a $5Million price tag.
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Where are Trump's tax returns?
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How did the Biden family amass their fortune...given their humble background?
It's not really that difficult to find that out. For one thing, Biden has made public his tax returns for the past 20+ years, which you can find online (including on his own website). Also, just do a Google search.

"When Joe officially ended his term as VP, he filed a financial disclosure form that listed his net worth between -$897,000 and $489,000. But then, in the subsequent two years, the couple apparently made more than $15 million in speaking fees, book tours (both he and and Jill released memoirs), and leadership at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement at the University of Pennsylvania (he's currently on leave of absence). In turn, they were able to make more donations and pay off one of their mortgages—one is still outstanding, as well as a line of credit for one of their sons—and buy a new property in Rehoboth Beach. If he wins the presidency, his salary will be $400,000 a year, not including an expense allowance, and Jill has said she'll continue working too.

On September 29, hours before the debate, Biden released his 2019 tax returns. They showed that he and Jill had received $985,233 in adjusted gross income and paid about $300,000 in taxes. Biden has now released 22 years of tax returns; Trump has released none."

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/joe-...nVxp82eefsDJQa

Do you seriously think Trump isn't going to try to make money off of his role as President? In an interview from the 1980s, when asked "If you lost your fortune today, what would you do tomorrow?" Trump's answer was: "Run for President."
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Which was entirely FullCircle's point.



FullCircle - tone down the nuances, pls.

Urs - your stuff might be getting lost here, too.
Yes, and my point was that we all know what he's trying to do here.

It doesn't work.

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I also included Republicans in that "swamp" mix . Should have added Lindsay Graham to that group. I am sure there are many others. The problem remains: how to fix this issue? Term limits perhaps? Not an easy fix...
I know, I've read many of your posts.... Solutions - other parties, no? But this dilemma reminds me of back home, where people (used to) vote with one of the two main parties because they felt like they would have wasted their vote otherwise. Needless to say this perpetuates the same political class and their shenanigans...I'd bring to the table people who're actually good at something and not just politicians.
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How did the Biden family amass their fortune...given their humble background?
According to Joe Biden he has benefited from 'white privilege'. Maybe it's that?
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According to Joe Biden he has benefited from 'white privilege'. Maybe it's that?
Vice President Mike Pence’s chief of staff, Marc Short, and a senior external adviser have both tested positive for COVID-19. Pence is leading the White House response to the virus and he cannot even keep his own people safe.

Meanwhile, Trump is running around the country spreading the virus and claiming it is going away while new US cases and hospitalizations are rising, sadly over the last five days deaths are also rising.
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Who cares?

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How did the Biden family amass their fortune...given their humble background?
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For a 75+ years old Baby Boomer, who was a Senator for eons and Vice President of the U-S-A for 8 years if he did not have the wealth that he declares in his tax returns, legimately earned, that would have been suspicious.


Which part do you not like?

Should humble background people stay humble forever?
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Who cares?

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I'm not sure if you're American, but I think most Americans should care about whether or not their President has committed tax fraud.
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So let me get this straight Marton... You really believe that Biden played no role in his son's business ventures?

I find that astounding on all levels. Why hasn't Biden addressed the emails directly nor issued a comment on the laptop and emails leaked?

How did the Biden family amass their fortune...given their humble background?


who cares did you say? Yes, we do want to see Trump's tax returns. If you think it is not important- than how Biden amassed his fortune (and declared tax) is certainly less relevant.
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I was, but I got rid of that shit before they started making people pay to do so.

And I don't care to see our president's (Sommarauga) tax returns.

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Have you ever noticed that when (some) people are called out on their bulls*** here, they just ignore it rather than acknowledging it and/or responding?
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oh yes, and go on multiple groans and/or red rep - surely they don't think we care about THAT. But yes, multiple fraud, and tax fraud we do care about.


I just can't be asked to groan back and send back red rep - so infantile and petty.
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