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Old 25.10.2020, 15:41
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oh yes, and go on multiple groans and/or red rep - surely they don't think we care about THAT. But yes, multiple fraud, and tax fraud we do care about.


I just can't be asked to groan back and send back red rep - so infantile and petty.
It is. And I think the "groan option" here is just ridiculous, really. Some people seem to think it's like their super power or something. I groan you! Take that! As though they're handing out some kind of meaningful punishment. :P
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Old 25.10.2020, 15:55
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Who cares?

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People who want to know to whom (and in which countries) Trump is beholden. People who want to know whether Trump has committed tax fraud. People who just want to laugh at Trump for claiming that he is worth TEN BILLION DOLLARS. People who suspect that deep down, Trump just may not be a patriot.

Alternatively, surely all of Trump's followers would love to be reassured that their hero really is everything he claims to be. If Trump has been telling the truth, well, "what has he got to lose" by using his tax returns to back up his claims?
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Old 25.10.2020, 16:22
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People who want to know to whom (and in which countries) Trump is beholden. People who want to know whether Trump has committed tax fraud. People who just want to laugh at Trump for claiming that he is worth TEN BILLION DOLLARS. People who suspect that deep down, Trump just may not be a patriot.

Alternatively, surely all of Trump's followers would love to be reassured that their hero really is everything he claims to be. If Trump has been telling the truth, well, "what has he got to lose" by using his tax returns to back up his claims?
Talk about spewing BS!

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Old 25.10.2020, 17:15
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Talk about spewing BS!

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During Obama's administration, Trump was relentlessly demanding that Obama provide a copy of his birth certificate to prove that he was born in the US (which Obama finally did).

So why is it wrong to ask for Trump to provide his tax returns? Every other president since the 1970s has revealed theirs. Also, considering the great lengths that Trump has gone to to try to prevent his tax returns from being revealed, why would it not be logical to assume that he has a reason for so desperately trying to hide them?
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Old 25.10.2020, 18:40
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Any Americans here?
Time to go to Montana and join a remote socially distanced hippy community

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“We are gonna control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics and other mitigation.”
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Old 25.10.2020, 18:48
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Did I ever post you could not make this stuff up?
Five people close to VP Pence now positively tested for coronavirus. Pence is supposed to be leading the White House COVID-19 response.
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Sources told CNN that Obst, who is a senior political adviser to Pence but is not a government employee, and at least three staffers in Pence's office have also tested positive for the virus.

Mike Pence is refusing to quarantine in defiance of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines.
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Old 25.10.2020, 19:58
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Too many ignorant rednecks in Montana.

I once had to drive through there with my ex, who is Asian, and everywhere we stopped, he was literally stared at as though he was from Mars.

"I aint's never seen a real Asian befores."
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Old 25.10.2020, 20:07
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Mark Meadows is a pathetic ass-kisser and a guy who sold his (questionable) libertarian principles together with his soul to Fat Donny.

Where are the common-sense, moderate, compassionate conservatives?
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Old 25.10.2020, 20:18
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9 days to go: Biden's lead over Trump is holding, while Clinton's was collapsing at this point

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Old 25.10.2020, 20:23
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Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?

Honestly, if Biden wins, I'm probably going to run butt-naked through the streets of Zurich, waiving the American flag. (I'll wear a mask, so technically, I'm not really naked).

And if Trump wins... Well, it's probably time to mix up that nice, refreshing batch of Magic Kool Aid.
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For a 75+ years old Baby Boomer, who was a Senator for eons and Vice President of the U-S-A for 8 years if he did not have the wealth that he declares in his tax returns, legimately earned, that would have been suspicious.


Which part do you not like?

Should humble background people stay humble forever?
Absolutely not regarding humble people. After all, part of the "American" ethos is that anyone can attain anything if they work hard and strive to do better.

I don't like the part that this story has been largely overlooked by media when it seems fairly clear to me that Joe abused his power as VP in helping his son secure deals and possibly benefiting from them (this is when a forensic accountant comes in handy as tax returns don't always reveal the real story ) Tax returns do not include assets and then there are those offshore investments many do not claim (Tougher now with FACTA...)

Look, I think both Trump and Biden are lousy choices. I am really troubled about this election. Whoever wins, it will not be good for the US...
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Old 25.10.2020, 22:11
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Honestly, if Biden wins, I'm probably going to run butt-naked through the streets of Zurich, waiving the American flag.
You sure about that? Ticino Tom waived the American flag (and passport); do you really want to join his team?
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Old 25.10.2020, 22:38
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Absolutely not regarding humble people. After all, part of the "American" ethos is that anyone can attain anything if they work hard and strive to do better.

I don't like the part that this story has been largely overlooked by media when it seems fairly clear to me that Joe abused his power as VP in helping his son secure deals and possibly benefiting from them (this is when a forensic accountant comes in handy as tax returns don't always reveal the real story ) Tax returns do not include assets and then there are those offshore investments many do not claim (Tougher now with FACTA...)

Look, I think both Trump and Biden are lousy choices. I am really troubled about this election. Whoever wins, it will not be good for the US...
Would be good if someone released the actual emails about Hunter so they can be forensically examined, so far only photos of the emails have been released. Such emails are full of metadata that can reveal a lot about their authenticity.
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Would be good if someone released the actual emails about Hunter so they can be forensically examined, so far only photos of the emails have been released. Such emails are full of metadata that can reveal a lot about their authenticity.
I agree Marton! I find it odd that established media choose to ignore this story. They will probe into Trumps' tax returns ad infinitum (as well they should); but they won't investigate this claim?
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who cares did you say? Yes, we do want to see Trump's tax returns. If you think it is not important- than how Biden amassed his fortune (and declared tax) is certainly less relevant.
I think you may have confused me with Tom... I never said who cares about Trump's tax returns. They are relevant and worth investigating. Likewise, so are Hunter Biden's texts, emails and laptop
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Old 26.10.2020, 08:36
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Honestly, if Biden wins, I'm probably going to run butt-naked through the streets of Zurich, waiving the American flag
Without pictures it never happened
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Well, if they do do that I think there'll be plenty of pictures.
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Old 26.10.2020, 09:19
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I think you may have confused me with Tom... I never said who cares about Trump's tax returns. They are relevant and worth investigating. Likewise, so are Hunter Biden's texts, emails and laptop
I don't mind them being investigated. But where exactly are the emails? I would like to see some valid proof. Even Rudy Giuliani recently said “But even if it isn't accurate, the American people are entitled to know it.”

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Coincidentally, I just came across this video, titled "What Trump supporters see on their Facebook feeds," where a journalist(?) went to a Trump rally and asked people there what they see on their Facebook feeds, etc. It shows how many of these people are 'fed' completely false information and instinctively believe it to be true because it appeals to their cognitive biases.

In one segment, a guy says something about Biden having once fallen asleep during an interview. The journalist then proves to him that that was actually a fake video that was heavily edited to make it appear as though Biden had fallen asleep.

The video also shows many others at the rally claiming that everything they see is true and that when something is marked by Facebook as being fake or misleading, the people believe that's due to some kind of conspiracy against them rather than because the content actually is fake and misleading.

What Trump supporters see on their Facebook feeds
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I think you may have confused me with Tom... I never said who cares about Trump's tax returns. They are relevant and worth investigating. Likewise, so are Hunter Biden's texts, emails and laptop
This is quite clearly the point. Both quite clearly stories and both require scrutiny. It's absurd to hear the press referencing journalistic integrity now after spending the best part of the last four years making false claims about Donald Trump's links to Russia
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This is quite clearly the point. Both quite clearly stories and both require scrutiny. It's absurd to hear the press referencing journalistic integrity now after spending the best part of the last four years making false claims about Donald Trump's links to Russia
Why do you assume that claims about Donald Trump's links to Russia are false?

Even Trump's own lawyer, Michael Cohen, had pleaded guilty for lying to the Senate when he denied Trump's ties to Russia.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...w-york-1026107

And the fact is, Trump has almost one billion in loans coming due very soon (due in what would be his second term, if re-elected). Why would anyone with even half a brain think that doesn't involve a conflict of interest?

Trump Will Have $900 Million Of Loans Coming Due In His Second Term If He’s Reelected
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalex.../#a996b55f376a
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