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The guy wasn't shot because he was black. He was shot because he was having a psychotic episode and was threatening the police with a knife. And it was his own mother who had called the police due to him threatening her with a knife. But now his family is trying to play the victim and paint him out as being one because that's the trend right now, and I guess that's a lot easier to do than to confront the reality that he died because of the consequences of his own behavior and his own mental illness.
To be fair to the Bidens and Bowlies of this world, maybe they feel infantilizing the black community is the best response as they don't think it's fair to hold them to the same standards as other races
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"Adults with untreated severe mental illness account for one in every four fatal police shootings, according to experts. Wallace fits the pattern. He was also in and out of court throughout his young adulthood, with judges regularly ordering he receive mental health treatment as he faced charges of trespassing, resisting arrest, robbery and simple assault."
https://www.inquirer.com/news/walter...-20201027.html

The guy wasn't shot because he was black. He was shot because he was having a psychotic episode and was threatening the police with a knife. And it was his own mother who had called the police due to him threatening her with a knife. But now his family is trying to play the victim and paint him out as being one because that's the trend right now, and I guess that's a lot easier to do than to confront the reality that he died because of the consequences of his own behavior and his own psychosis.
Wonder how that statistic compares with other countries with armed police forces, and whether in countries with unarmed police the mentally ill are killed by police at the same rate. Presumably availability and effectiveness of mental health treatment would also play a role. My understanding of psychosis, having experienced it first-hand, is that a person having a psychotic episode has zero control over their delusions and is more of a danger to themselves than to others. So when I heard this story, I was less inclined than I might once have been to think "nutter deserved what he got".

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An interesting video from Aaron Belkin (Director of Take back the court) on the Supreme Court situation and the question of increasing the number of justices.

Video was posted last week and is 7:24 minutes long.

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However I expect the numbers showing up on 3 November will be below recent elections.
That seems very likely. The highest ever turnout for a presidential election was 138,847,000, in 2016. 59% of these -- around 82 million -- voted on election day.

More than 75 million ballots have already been cast in the 2020 election, which is a record by a long way (and there are still five days left for early voting), so if a similar number of people were to vote on Election Day as in 2016, the total turnout would be around 160 million. That would be a huge increase on voter turnout as a percentage of the voting age population of the US.
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Old 29.10.2020, 18:26
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Wonder how that statistic compares with other countries with armed police forces, and whether in countries with unarmed police the mentally ill are killed by police at the same rate. Presumably availability and effectiveness of mental health treatment would also play a role. My understanding of psychosis, having experienced it first-hand, is that a person having a psychotic episode has zero control over their delusions and is more of a danger to themselves than to others. So when I heard this story, I was less inclined than I might once have been to think "nutter deserved what he got".
Okay, but in this case, the guy was threatening cops with a knife after having threatened his own mother with a knife. This was not a case of "person having a psychotic episode is only a danger to himself."

So I understand your point, but I don't think it really applies in this situation. Some people who are having a psychotic episode can be a danger to others.
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An interesting video from Aaron Belkin (Director of Take back the court) on the Supreme Court situation and the question of increasing the number of justices.

Video was posted last week and is 7:24 minutes long.

I just went through the pain of watching this. I have a lot of time for a balanced court and judiciary - but this piece here is as partisan and biased as it gets, and he doesn't even try to hide his political agenda. From a rule of law point of view just awful.

And yes, I am aware that the GOP is just as bad.
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Well, I guess this puts the Hunter Biden scandal to bed... Fox News ran a show saying that they had lost the supposedly damning documents, hard evidence of the scandal, in the mail. You couldn't make it up. Oh wait... they just did.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ocuments-claim

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...ing-biden.html

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Well, I guess this puts the Hunter Biden scandal to bed... Fox News ran a show saying that they had lost the supposedly damning documents, hard evidence of the scandal, in the mail. You couldn't make it up. Oh wait... they just did.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ocuments-claim

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...ing-biden.html

The deep state reads your mail, didn't you know that? Tucker should have asked the documents to be sent by fax or some other modern technology.
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Carlson has a looong history of humiliating himself, one all his own doing and with results that he truly deserves, the smarmy, shrill little git.
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No, but there might be abortion made illegal and gays not being allowed to marry, etc., but I guess that's so much better than poor families having access to healthcare.
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Not with a D president though I imagine...
I never knew supreme court can ban all abortions in US. Thank you for opening my eyes.
I never knew DEM president can veto Supreme Court decisions and restore abortions for all.
Uff , that was close.
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Well, I guess this puts the Hunter Biden scandal to bed... Fox News ran a show saying that they had lost the supposedly damning documents, hard evidence of the scandal, in the mail. You couldn't make it up. Oh wait... they just did.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ocuments-claim

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...ing-biden.html

Go figure and apparently UPS just "found" the "lost" documents. I wonder if this was done intentionally to create more publicity? What idiot would send documents so important and not make copies of them??

https://www.businessinsider.com/ups-...0-10?r=US&IR=T
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Well, I guess this puts the Hunter Biden scandal to bed... Fox News ran a show saying that they had lost the supposedly damning documents, hard evidence of the scandal, in the mail. You couldn't make it up. Oh wait... they just did.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ocuments-claim

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020...ing-biden.html
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Later on Thursday, a spokesman for the US Postal Service told The Daily Beast that they had located the package. Carlson has not yet commented.

Many Trump critics met the explanation with disbelief online. They wondered why Carlson failed to make copies or secure pictures of the crucial documents, which the host had previously teased on his show.

The journalist and advocate of Donald Trump has been among the most vocal in pursuing controversial allegations against Hunter, related to his business dealings in Ukraine and China while his father was vice-president. No criminal activity has been proven, and no evidence has emerged that Joe Biden did anything to intentionally benefit his son.
From the BBC
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Okay, but in this case, the guy was threatening cops with a knife after having threatened his own mother with a knife. This was not a case of "person having a psychotic episode is only a danger to himself."

So I understand your point, but I don't think it really applies in this situation. Some people who are having a psychotic episode can be a danger to others.
I just read that Walter Wallace was a 'family man' - a 27 year old father of 8 with another on the way. An aspiring rapper.

I can't believe they got one of his little kids up there in front of the camera to tell how his father was 'murdered by racist white police'

The guy was thug who was attacking cops with a knife. What exactly do people expect would happen?

https://nypost.com/2020/10/28/walter...ins-with-cops/
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Well, I guess this puts the Hunter Biden scandal to bed...
Seriously, I am laughing with tears
thanks for the share, this will keep me entertained for a while. unbelievable! Lost in the mail, you literally cannot make a more stupid excuse. Just let it go and people will forget, now this will be a classic for generations
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I believe in the president, now more than ever
Opinion by George T. Conway III

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ore-than-ever/

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Seriously, I am laughing with tears
thanks for the share, this will keep me entertained for a while. unbelievable! Lost in the mail, you literally cannot make a more stupid excuse. Just let it go and people will forget, now this will be a classic for generations
So..you didn't get the memo nor my post that those "lost" documents are now found - apparently?
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So..you didn't get the memo nor my post that those "lost" documents are now found - apparently?
Just let go. Not even Breitbart or OANN run this "story". They run an awful lot of other creepy stuff though, in case you want to catch up on your reading.
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So..you didn't get the memo nor my post that those "lost" documents are now found - apparently?
No i did, but this is still gold. Even if its part of some elaborate Fox plan, its still stupid. If it's not part of a plan, it's stupid. Either way, it's stupid, but truly entertaining.
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Just let go. Not even Breitbart or OANN run this "story". They run an awful lot of other creepy stuff though, in case you want to catch up on your reading.
Thanks..but I read quite a bit! Breitbart is decidedly "Anti Trump" and so no wonder they choose to ignore anything about Biden. I could care less about Biden or Trump but I do believe in quid pro quo regarding news outlets.

If you are going to investigate claims against Trump, then you need to do the same, and apply the same standards of investigative journalism with Biden or any other political candidate. Call me old fashioned/idealistic, but I think that is what journalists should do in their best capacity.
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Breitbart is decidedly "Anti Trump" and so no wonder they choose to ignore anything about Biden.
LMAO

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/202...-hed-ever-met/
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