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Mr. 09.08.2020 20:44

Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
Whats your oppinion on the november election in USA?
Who got more chance of winning?
Creepy Joe or Trump 4 more years? ;)

Chuff 09.08.2020 20:55

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
Creepy Joe Biden?

Trump has, among many other things:
  1. Screwed a porn star then tried to pay her off
  2. Said on TV that if Ivanka wasn't his daughter he would date her
  3. Talked about "grabbing women by the pussy"
  4. His wiki page states that: "Donald Trump, current president of the United States, has been accused of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment, including non-consensual kissing or groping, by at least 25 women since the 1970s." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald...na_Trump_(1989)

...and you call Joe Biden creepy? :rofl:

fatmanfilms 09.08.2020 21:01

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. (Post 3205147)
Whats your oppinion on the november election in USA?
Who got more chance of winning?
Creepy Joe or Trump 4 more years? ;)

As my Facebook feed is always wrong, BREXIT, UK Elections & last US election. I would say that Trump will win, I have about 600 US voters on my feed & only 4 have ever said anything good about Trump so absolutely nothing has changed.

k_and_e 09.08.2020 21:08

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
What they both have in common is that you must be stupid to vote on them.

bowlie 09.08.2020 21:18

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
Even if it’s a case of the lessor of two evils, everyone who has a vote, should.

MusicChick 09.08.2020 21:24

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3205150)
As my Facebook feed is always wrong, BREXIT, UK Elections & last US election. I would say that Trump will win, I have about 600 US voters on my feed & only 4 have ever said anything good about Trump so absolutely nothing has changed.

That just means that FB is an echo chamber. Maybe that's where people "vote", sort of speak then. Ykwim?

The actual official voting isn't interesting for echo dudes, it is anonymous.

Pancakes 09.08.2020 21:25

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
I'm not sure who has more of a chance of winning, and I'm afraid to get my hopes or expectations too high, considering what happened in 2016 (:eek:). But I have seen a lot of people who are Republicans and had voted for Trump in 2016 saying that they will not be voting for him again. It will be interesting to see how the next few months play out.

I think that one of the biggest factors, in terms of whether or not Biden will win, is how many Democrats get out to vote (or vote by mail) this time around. There are a lot of people in the US who are very pissed off at Trump right now, and I hope that will equate to more of them voting this November.

As for the "creepy Joe Biden" comment... It's interesting how so many Trump supporters choose to ignore and/or dismiss Trump's own creepy or bizarre behavior but so desperately try to accuse Biden of being creepy, even going so far as to accuse him of "hair sniffing" when he was simply whispering in someone's ear in an extremely loud and crowded room. But that's what people and the media do -- they distort things to conform to their cognitive biases. I can only hope that by this time next year, US politics will be much more mature than it is now.

And one thing that I do know is that if I step back and try to objectively perceive the situation in the US right now, between the pandemic, the economy and the racial tensions, etc., one thing becomes very, very clear...

Something needs to change.

TonyClifton 09.08.2020 21:28

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
I fear feel that if Joe Biden wins everything will go back to how it was before, whereas I believe this couldn't be further from the truth. America is in a dark place at the moment :( almost tribal.

I'm not sure Joe Biden is even fit enough to make it to November. He appears to be suffering from dementia :(

omtatsat 09.08.2020 21:36

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
Well my money is on Kayne West-he's for sure the most intelligent of them all

ennui 09.08.2020 21:47

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
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Originally Posted by MusicChick (Post 3205160)
That just means that FB is an echo chamber. Maybe that's where people "vote", sort of speak then. Ykwim?

The actual official voting isn't interesting for echo dudes, it is anonymous.

All social media is an echo chamber, even here.

Chuff 09.08.2020 21:49

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
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Originally Posted by TonyClifton (Post 3205164)
I fear feel that if Joe Biden wins everything will go back to how it was before, whereas I believe this couldn't be further from the truth. America is in a dark place at the moment :( almost tribal.

I'm not sure Joe Biden is even fit enough to make it to November. He appears to be suffering from dementia :(

Biden with dementia would still be far preferable to psychopathic Trump. What is critically important is that the Democrats are back in control of the Whitehouse and the presidency, and if Biden is the guy to do that then that is fine by me, even if he has stand down halfway through his presidency for medical reasons. The Republicans in their current form are imo as close to evil as a major party in a Western democracy of this size can get. They lie pathologically and continually, they have no soul, no conscience, and no interest in actually making anything in the country better for the average US citizen. They epitomize self-interest.

But of course, there is no evidence as yet for Biden having dementia. I do however think that, in principle, any 70+ year old man that would otherwise be well past retirement age is too old to be president of the USA, considering the colossaldemands, rigors and pressures of that role.

Full Circle 09.08.2020 22:08

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
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Originally Posted by bowlie (Post 3205156)
Even if it’s a case of the lessor of two evils, everyone who has a vote, should.

Agree with this. Trump might not be everyone's cup of tea but at least you know what you get.

omtatsat 09.08.2020 22:14

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
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Originally Posted by Full Circle (Post 3205184)
Agree with this. Trump might not be everyone's cup of tea but at least you know what you get.

the idea is after Biden has won he will later be too demented to govern and then usa will get its first black woman president-Keisha Lance Bottoms

Pancakes 09.08.2020 22:19

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
Considering his age, I think Joe Biden is of very sound mind and is perfectly mentally intact. I've watched his talks, looking for signs of this so-called "dementia" that the right is trying to accuse him of having, and nothing -- absolutely nothing -- stands out for me. Not even when I've seen the video examples of him on youtube where they're trying to accuse him of having dementia. The fact is, everyone of all ages forgets a word now and then or loses their train of thought. But if Biden does it, the right and the right-wing media take it and blow it completely out proportion because they want to validate themselves in their accusations of him having dementia. Also, I think some people don't realize that Biden speaks a certain way due to having to adjust his speech to counteract his stuttering disorder.

So while it would be nice to see someone younger in office, I'd still rather have a 70+ year old who is intelligent and sane and who cares about people in the White House than someone in their 40s who is inept, malignant and/or mentally unstable.

Chuff 09.08.2020 22:30

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
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Originally Posted by Pancakes (Post 3205191)
Considering his age, I think Joe Biden is of very sound mind and is perfectly mentally intact. I've watched his talks, looking for signs of this so-called "dementia" that the right is trying to accuse him of having, and nothing -- absolutely nothing -- stands out for me. Not even when I've seen the video examples of him on youtube where they're trying to accuse him of having dementia. The fact is, everyone of all ages forgets a word now and then or loses their train of thought. But if Biden does it, the right and the right-wing media take it and blow it completely out proportion because they want to validate themselves in their accusations of him having dementia. Also, I think some people don't realize that Biden speaks a certain way due to having to adjust his speech to counteract his stuttering disorder.

So while it would be nice to see someone younger in office, I'd still rather have a 70+ year old who is intelligent and sane and who cares about people in the White House than someone in their 40s who is inept, malignant and/or mentally unstable.

Completely true. I am far younger and lose my train of thought occasionally.

Considering he is speaking on levels of pressure which most people can't even imagine, he does a great job. The whole dementia thing is pushed as a Republican agenda whike conveniently ignoring the constant stream of horrific incidents involving their own president.




I mean seriously, that is only scratching the surface and anyone who says Biden even begins to compare to this level of cognitive abnormality is a straight up liar.

Full Circle 09.08.2020 22:33

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
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Originally Posted by omtatsat (Post 3205187)
the idea is after Biden has won he will later be too demented to govern and then usa will get its first black woman president-Keisha Lance Bottoms

Is she confirmed?
(doesn't really matter I guess as they all think the same anyway, right? :msntongue:)

Pancakes 09.08.2020 22:59

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
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Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 3205192)
Completely true. I am far younger and lose my train of through occasionally.

Ha haa. I had to read that a few times. At first, I thought it was MY brain that was glitching. :p :)

I had almost commented with the same thing -- that I also am much younger but lose my train of thought sometimes (especially when I haven't been sleeping well).

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Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 3205192)
Considering he is speaking on levels of pressure which most people can't even imagine, he does a great job. The whole dementia thing is pushed as a Republican agenda whike conveniently ignoring the constant stream of horrific incidents involving their own president.

I mean seriously, that is only scratching the surface and anyone who says Biden even begins to compare to this level of cognitive abnormality is a straight up liar.

Yeah, it's deflection. Trump is a master of it -- constantly pointing the finger at other people to try to keep the negative focus off of himself. And I don't think it's a coincidence that the right has tried to accuse Biden of the same things that Trump himself has been accused of in the past. Some people were trying to accuse Trump of having dementia long before Biden was a candidate. Trump is (or was) the oldest president to have ever taken office, and his father had Alzheimer's, which can be genetic. Some people had raised the question of whether or not Trump could develop dementia and if he should be tested for it (and again, this was long before Biden was a candidate). And then the thing with that Tara Reade woman and trying to accuse of Biden of being a pervert after Trump himself had something like 22 sexual assault / abuse accusations against him and was caught talking about grabbing women by the p__y.

But in all honestly, I think a lot of those gaffes in those videos of Trump are due to him mispronouncing words as he reads them from a teleprompter. I don't think they're signs of dementia. I do think that he is an egomaniac, though. And coincidentally, egomaniacs are known to be drawn to politics and entertainment. They're also often drawn to social media and tend to ridicule others.

Pancakes 09.08.2020 23:00

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
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Originally Posted by Full Circle (Post 3205194)
(doesn't really matter I guess as they all think the same anyway, right? :msntongue:)

:msnsarcastic:

slammer 09.08.2020 23:28

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
It´s not about Trump with the campaign donating Republicans, they along with the military industrial complex just don´t want their rice bowl kicked and up until now Trump has been a good investment, vain and easily manipulated and as long as the money flows all is good.
I don´t think Biden has much of a chance, it died when Tumps PR-guys came up with "creepy Biden" and the pictures of Biden getting "handy" with young girls will be in the back of everybody´s mind come November, even if those pictures are a tad manipulated the damage has been done.
Unless some strong Führer comes up on a white charger Trump will win again.

HickvonFrick 10.08.2020 00:21

Re: Trump or Biden .Who you got?
 
If I had to guess I'd say trump wins it again. The Dems couldn't have picked a worse candidate unless they asked Hilary to run again.


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