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Re: Trump and first lady test positive for coronavirus

I would be very surprised if he was faking having COVID. However, I am not at all surprised that he's trying to turn it into a publicity stunt.

I suppose I also shouldn't find it surprising that he's now telling people to not fear COVID. He's already made it very clear that he doesn't give a damn about other people's lives and that his definition of reality is limited to his very subjective and very narrow field of perception. Imagine if someone who survived cancer was going around telling people to not worry if they get cancer simply because he himself had survived it.

He's trying to turn himself into a hero over this because the other option is to face reality and admit that he was stupid by not social distancing or wearing a mask, etc. and that his "super spreader" event is responsible for many others getting sick. It's just truly disgusting and pathetic. And it's a huge 'slap in the face' to all the people who have lost their lives and loved ones to that virus.
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Even if he was ill his chance of surviving is still in the region of 95%, thats without the 17 Doctors on hand as 22 yards points out.
Less than 89%, according to a recent meta-analysis. And with Trump's comorbidities, almost certainly a lot less.
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Oh man that was one weird press briefing... the doctor giving the statement was nervous and evasive on the questions and it all seemed very forced. He was clearly uncomfortable and in my opinion not telling the full truth about the presidents vital stats, blood pressure and cholesterol. Lots of rapid eye movement, voice pitch changes, hesitation etc throughout.
Hah yup... the doctor was indeed lying https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10...d-live-updates

“I didn’t want to give any information that might steer the course of illness in another direction, and in doing so, you know, it came off that we were trying to hide something, which wasn’t necessarily true,” Dr. Sean P. Conley, the White House physician, said in a briefing with reporters Sunday."

Even giving this 'clarification update', the doctor was so nervous he could hardly deliver his lines properly. The story surrounding the treatment was so over-engineered it just ended up sounding silly.

Utterly shameless and cynical manipulation of the facts from Trump, though I am assuming from his doctors demeanour that he was pressured into doing all of this against his better judgement. The fact is that Trump will corrupt everyone he comes into contact with and cause them have to lie, whether willingly or unwillingly. It's only after they leave his service that you hear the full story as they then have the liberty to grapple with their consciences.

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Lets see what Trump has to say, I suspect he will agree with me
Well, it wouldn't surprise me as you and Trump do seem to share many similarities in character and outlook. You both claim great financial success, have low empathy and questionable morals, and display high levels of ignorance on a regular basis.

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Old 06.10.2020, 08:06
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Re: Trump and first lady test positive for coronavirus

In the meantime, his inner circle continues to test positive.
I am surprised no journalist told Trump that "You are the best super-spreader Sir" and he would have picked it up himself "I'm the best super-spreader! There's no spreader who's better than me! I'm spreading it right now!"
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In the meantime, his inner circle continues to test positive.
I am surprised no journalist told Trump that "You are the best super-spreader Sir" and he would have picked it up himself "I'm the best super-spreader! There's no spreader who's better than me! I'm spreading it right now!"

He's not the best superspreader. He's the greatest superspreader of all time (the GSAT)
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Re: Trump and first lady test positive for coronavirus

Have just watched the video of him getting back to the White House..... he is really having breathing issues.
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I would question if he had it at all, false positives are quite common.
Yet more fact-free FMF comment. Not that common, false negatives are much higher - was particularly so earlier on in the pandemic when they were still learning how to take samoles.

The Lancet esitmates false positives at between 0.8% and 4.0%.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...453-7/fulltext
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Have just watched the video of him getting back to the White House..... he is really having breathing issues.
Yep - was very familiar for an asthmatic to witness:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/commen...eturns_to_the/

He's not out of the woods yet - the amount of steroids in his system and the fact that he's still breathing like that, are not a good sign.
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Re: Trump and first lady test positive for coronavirus

Yup, and what the steroids are doing to his decision making processes.......
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Re: Trump and first lady test positive for coronavirus

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Yet more fact-free FMF comment. Not that common, false negatives are much higher - was particularly so earlier on in the pandemic when they were still learning how to take samoles.

The Lancet esitmates false positives at between 0.8% and 4.0%.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...453-7/fulltext
In Malta 80% of positives have no symptoms, I find it more likely that the false positives are in excess of 4% substantially so.
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He's not out of the woods yet - the amount of steroids in his system and the fact that he's still breathing like that, are not a good sign.
To be honest, I see no moral problem wishing such a despicable low-life as him to suffer. In fact, this is a good sign for me. Why is it OK to have wished Hitler bad things and not OK to wish Trump bad things? Where do we draw the line? Hopefully he has long term effects and can't stand for a second term.
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To be honest, I see no moral problem wishing such a despicable low-life as him to suffer. In fact, this is a good sign for me. Why is it OK to have wished Hitler bad things and not OK to wish Trump bad things? Where do we draw the line? Hopefully he has long term effects and can't stand for a second term.
Only if you go by feelings and not facts
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To be honest, I see no moral problem wishing such a despicable low-life as him to suffer. In fact, this is a good sign for me. Why is it OK to have wished Hitler bad things and not OK to wish Trump bad things? Where do we draw the line? Hopefully he has long term effects and can't stand for a second term.
Trump is a symptom of the Republican Party in general. With Mitch McConnell at the helm, a Republican Senate majority and the Supreme Court full of conservative, right-leaning judges, I personally find corruption and the decline of democracy has nicely settled for a long stay in the White House.

Edit: The checks and balances are plainly not working which encourages Trump to do whatever he wants.
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T Why is it OK to have wished Hitler bad things and not OK to wish Trump bad things? Where do we draw the line?
The genocide of 6 million Jews would be something to factor in maybe?
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Old 06.10.2020, 10:31
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Edit: The checks and balances are plainly not working which encourages Trump to do whatever he wants.
Exactly. So why is it morally unjustifiable to wish him bad?
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To be honest, I see no moral problem wishing such a despicable low-life as him to suffer. In fact, this is a good sign for me. Why is it OK to have wished Hitler bad things and not OK to wish Trump bad things? Where do we draw the line? Hopefully he has long term effects and can't stand for a second term.
What's happening... I keep agreeing with Gaburko.

I most certainly wish Trump to be incapacitated so he can no longer be doing the damage he is doing. Someone with his level of incompetence and appalling character in a position of such power is a threat on a domestic and global scale. While I would prefer him to simply be too sick to continue in his role and continue to live so that he can to pay for the things he has done, I certainly wouldn't feel any pity if he died either.
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Exactly. So why is it morally unjustifiable to wish him bad?
Internet forums have been dealing with the issue of posters wishing Trump (or anyone else for that matter) would die. Twitter has decided to delete such posts while Facebook allows it. I once saw a post on FB stating the poster wouldn't care if someone killed a governor. I reported the post and was told by FB that it didn't meet the requirements to be deleted. I was shocked.

Knowing the mods, I am assured they'll take the high road and keep us on moral ground. I dislike Trump as much as most and am willing to bet his symptoms are not over yet. He's on medication and has the best care and publicity machine to make him look like superman. He's not and I personally think reality will kick in.

However, the best way to beat Trump is to vote his tush out of the office. Unfortunately, I'm not convinced the electoral system offers representation as it should. There are so many things wrong with the democratic system in America but no one really has the guts or the backing to fix it.
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To be honest, I see no moral problem wishing such a despicable low-life as him to suffer. In fact, this is a good sign for me. Why is it OK to have wished Hitler bad things and not OK to wish Trump bad things? Where do we draw the line? Hopefully he has long term effects and can't stand for a second term.
There is no line and you can wish bad things upon anyone you want.
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To be honest, I see no moral problem wishing such a despicable low-life as him to suffer. In fact, this is a good sign for me. Why is it OK to have wished Hitler bad things and not OK to wish Trump bad things? Where do we draw the line? Hopefully he has long term effects and can't stand for a second term.
Understood.

I couldn't possibly put into words what I feel about him and what he deserves...for now, at least publicly, I am trying to remain with the "They go low, we go high" mantra Michelle Obama sticks to.
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Understood.

I couldn't possibly put into words what I feel about him and what he deserves...for now, at least publicly, I am trying to remain with the "They go low, we go high" mantra Michelle Obama sticks to.
I and some of my colleagues pretty much cheered in the office when we heard the news. I mean seriously, people were as close to overjoyed as it's possible to get when hearing that someone has a potentially life-threatening disease.

I imagine over half of the known world did too, even if they just kept it inside.
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