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Most of it is the homeland of Palestinian people.
Right, but Israel was founded as a homeland for the Jewish people, so to say that "conflating the state of Israel with Judaism is antisemitic" seems ridiculous.
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The state of the Labour party - a guy who has spent his entire life fighting against prejudice, railroaded by his own party. They tout Blair but bin Corbyn, remarkable really

Lot of parallels with what has happened in the US with Democratic party

EHRC who is meant to be non-departamental, until very recently when the report was being finalized was chaired by someone whose firm advised the conservatives
Lol. I take it you've never engaged with the far left of the Labour Party.
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The state of the Labour party - a guy who has spent his entire life fighting against prejudice, railroaded by his own party. They tout Blair but bin Corbyn, remarkable really
Corbyn was the worst thing to happen to the Labour party twice in the 38yrs he's been an MP. He consigned my generation to a futher term of Tory office by organising a coup attempt against Kinnock in '88, which almost split the party, and he did the same again as party leader, thereby screwing over a second generation. He is, and always has been, utterly vile.
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Right, but Israel was founded as a homeland for the Jewish people, so to say that "conflating the state of Israel with Judaism is antisemitic" seems ridiculous.

It was not meant to be enlarged and expanded constantly, by stealing it forcefully, and extremely violently, from the Palestinian.
I am not antisemitic at all- but I am 100% against the above and the disgusting methods used to.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn suspended from Labour Party

To bring the thread slightly back on topic, apart from him being a champagne socialist, whose policies if enacted would have bankrupted the country, here are some of the despicable things he has done over the years (cut and pasted):

Invited two IRA members to Parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna
Went to meeting with provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney
Hosted IRA-linked Mitchell McLaughlin in Parliament
Shared a platform with IRA terrorist Martina Anderson
Attended a Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly
Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane
Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists
Stood in minute's silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS
Signed Early Day Motion after IRA massacre, blaming Britain for the deaths
Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber's co-defendants
Lobbied Government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers
Attended Irish republican event where calls were made for armed conflict against Britain
Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey
Said banned terrorist groups Hamas and Hezbollah were his 'friends'
Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list
Attended wreath-laying at grave of 1976 Munich massacre terrorist
Attended conference where Hamas and Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine were present
Photographed at rally in front of Hezbollah flag
Attended rally with members of banned Al-Muhajiroun
Repeatedly shared platforms with plane hijacker
Accepted £20,000 for appearing on state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime
Opposed banning Britons from going to Syria to fight for ISIS
Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria
Voted to let ISIS fighters return from Syria
Opposed police 'shoot to kill' policy
Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects
Accepted £5,000 donation from academic who said 'Palestinians have a moral right to their terrorism'
Chaired Stop The War, which praised the 'internationalism and solidarity' of ISIS
Shook hands with cleric Raed Salah after he had been found guilty of incitement to terrorism
Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr
Compared ISIS to U.S. military in interview on Russia Today
Opposed proscription of extreme Islamist group Hizb ut-Tahrir
Backed Holocaust-denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen
Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John
Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks
Called Colombian terror group M-19 'comrades'
Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime
Voted against banning support for the IRA
Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles
Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11
Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group
Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism
Voted against banning al-Qaeda
Voted against control orders for terror suspects
Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism
Helped convicted IRA bombmaker Gerard McLaughlin get a job after he got a council flat
Said ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi should have been arrested rather than killed
Went to court to support an IRA fixer
Co-sponsored Irish Republican event that called jailed bombers 'prisoners of war'

Having said that, I‘m very happy he was made leader of Labour as he kept them out of power. The conservatives maybe useless, but they are the less worse option.
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... a guy who has spent his entire life fighting against prejudice ...
I still don't believe Corbyn is antisemitic – but his 'irony' comments unquestionably were

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I have repeatedly defended Jeremy Corbyn against charges of antisemitism. When my neighbour told me the Labour leader was a Jew hater because he had supported the graffiti artist responsible for the hooked-nose, trope-tastic antisemitic mural, I said Corbyn was so anti-racist that he probably didn’t even notice the caricatures – and that he was hopeless at detail, anyway. When photos were released showing him posing with a wreath to commemorate Palestinian martyrs at a cemetery in Tunisia, I said of course he was there – they were killed by an Israeli bomb attack on the Palestinian Liberation Organisation headquarters in 1985 that even Margaret Thatcher’s government condemned. When he refused to sign up to the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s definition of antisemitism, I argued that the definition was problematic, and it was important to be able to say Israel was racist without being labelled an antisemite. And on it went.

But not any more. I still don’t believe (or would like not to believe) that he is an antisemite, but what the Labour leader said at a London conference convened by the Palestinian Return Centre in 2013 is unquestionably antisemitic.

Yesterday the Daily Mail showed footage of Corbyn addressing the conference, on the topic of British Zionists. He mentions an impassioned speech made at a meeting in parliament about the history of Palestine that was “dutifully recorded by the thankfully silent Zionists who were in the audience” (audience members he presumably knew nothing about). So far so bad. But it gets worse. He goes on to say that these unnamed Zionists in the audience “clearly have two problems. One is they don’t want to study history, and secondly, having lived in this country for a very long time, probably all their lives, they don’t understand English irony either … So I think they needed two lessons, which we can perhaps help them with.”

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn suspended from Labour Party

For nearly 4 decades the UN declared zionism equated with racism and only due to political pressure was it repealed in '91. No surrpises then that the UN has progressively lost credibility over the years since
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn suspended from Labour Party

Corbyn must be the most unlucky non antisemite in the world - he keeps bumping into antisemite friends, supports antisemitic terrorists, worked for an antisemitic TV station. Now wonder the Jews in the UK were afraid ofhim becoming PM.

Now even the EHRC states the obvious - Labour under Corbyn was criminally neglectful (at best) handling Antisemitism.

It's a disgrace he is still an MP and other Labour MPs call for his reinstatement.
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Old 06.11.2020, 17:15
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Very stupid and clumsy especially if he was aware of Mandelson's heritage and the anti-semitic tropes. However it would be entirely justified in the case of Tony Blair, who has massively enriched himself advising shady characters around the globe.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn suspended from Labour Party

...if you are far left, you must be an anti-Zionist(you'll be called anti-Semite)...reason is that the far left want to tax rich, but guess who detain majority of the money in west...when you have lot of money, you can influence course of geo-politics, history...and even when you rich you can influence faith of those who sustain free schooling, free sport education, taxing corporations(that hide moneys in offshores)...he is the only one who tried to fight for emancipation of poor and reunite distressed nations as Irish and Palestinians...
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...if you are far left, you must be an anti-Zionist(you'll be called anti-Semite)...reason is that the far left want to tax rich, but guess who detain majority of the money in west...when you have lot of money, you can influence course of geo-politics, history...and even when you rich you can influence faith of those who sustain free schooling, free sport education, taxing corporations(that hide moneys in offshores)...he is the only one who tried to fight for emancipation of poor and reunite distressed nations as Irish and Palestinians...
If anyone needed proof that Corbyn attracts Antisemites.
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...if you are far left, you must be an anti-Zionist(you'll be called anti-Semite)...reason is that the far left want to tax rich, but guess who detain majority of the money in west...when you have lot of money, you can influence course of geo-politics, history...and even when you rich you can influence faith of those who sustain free schooling, free sport education, taxing corporations(that hide moneys in offshores)...he is the only one who tried to fight for emancipation of poor and reunite distressed nations as Irish and Palestinians...
Go on then - please let us know.
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For nearly 4 decades the UN declared zionism equated with racism and only due to political pressure was it repealed in '91. No surrpises then that the UN has progressively lost credibility over the years since
I'll explain to you why this is wrong: because pure and simple - if the Jewish population in the Middle East were living in an Arabic / Muslim led country they would systemically be once again the victim of appalling levels of racism at best and genocide at worst. One day that may change - and relationships with some neighbours are improving - but not yet.

Thus, the Jews need to be in a Jewish majority, Jewish led state.

That's not to ignore the terrible situation of the Palestinian people who also deserve a country of their own. The only grown up answer is a two state solution. However that is by definition a Zionist one.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn suspended from Labour Party

Corbyn reinstated after non-apology.

Coming hot on the heels of his former lover, political ally and current MP, sharing platform with Uighur atrocities deniers.

Racism is a feature, not a bug in the Labour party.
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... and reunite distressed nations as Irish and Palestinians...
As an Irishman I am not distressed thank you very much. And I certainly don't need a terrorist supporting slug called Corbyn to 'defend and support' me.

If a united Ireland does come about, it will hopefully be by peaceful democratic means. The IRA are and have always been since the 60's undemocratic and murderers....it's indefensible to support a group that will happily blow up children and call it war or justify any other way.
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Corbyn reinstated after non-apology.

Coming hot on the heels of his former lover, political ally and current MP, sharing platform with Uighur atrocities deniers.

Racism is a feature, not a bug in the Labour party.
Pash, Abbott is an irrelevance, why are you focussing on her when the Tory government says nothing about the Uighers?

Have you seen this, what do you think? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/...ies-wednesday/
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Pash, Abbott is an irrelevance, why are you focussing on her when the Tory government says nothing about the Uighers?

Have you seen this, what do you think? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/...ies-wednesday/
Abbott is an MP, formerly a shadow minister and one of the leaders of the pro Corbyn camp. This camp is quite strong in the Labour party. Hardly an irrelevance.

For an MP to share a platform with atrocity deniers is quite a low. Corbyn did this many times, and now his followers are doing the same.
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As an Irishman I am not distressed thank you very much. And I certainly don't need a terrorist supporting slug called Corbyn to 'defend and support' me.

If a united Ireland does come about, it will hopefully be by peaceful democratic means. The IRA are and have always been since the 60's undemocratic and murderers....it's indefensible to support a group that will happily blow up children and call it war or justify any other way.
...I am working with 100+ Irishman, none of them have your view...
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Maybe back in the party, but not had the whip reinstated.
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...I am working with 100+ Irishman, none of them have your view...
Amazing..you've asked all 100, I'm impressed but unconvinced.
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