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Yes 40 50.63%
No 14 17.72%
He won't live long enough to determine either way 14 17.72%
Define "good" 20 25.32%
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Old 31.01.2021, 11:07
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He could defend himself, couldn't he? Imagine.
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Old 31.01.2021, 11:14
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New US cases and hospitalisations are turning down nicely.
Happened twice before and then new off to new heights.
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Old 31.01.2021, 11:19
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Difficult to ignore the ex-President.

Seems the lead lawyer in his impeachment defense team and four other lawyers have jumped ship.

Allegedly the exodus is due to disagreements over the defense strategy. The team members wanted to focus on the legality of the impeachment, while Trump insisted on pushing narratives of election fraud.

Due to the severe US penalties for lawyers who claim fraud in court without evidence then no sane lawyer will take that path.

Edit: No other attorneys have announced they are working on Trump's impeachment defense, so no lawyers two weeks before trial!
Yet they were willing to try and claim election fraud in how many attempts in the courts previously? 60 or so wasn't it? Wonder what penalties they've been given. Let me guess - none.
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Old 31.01.2021, 11:29
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Yet they were willing to try and claim election fraud in how many attempts in the courts previously? 60 or so wasn't it? Wonder what penalties they've been given. Let me guess - none.
Actually, not one single lawyer was foolish enough to have claimed election fraud in court. They certainly claimed fraud outside the courts but not one court brief or court pleading used the word fraud.
In fact, one judge pressed Guiliani in court about what he was actually claiming amongst all the rhetoric and he admitted he was not claiming fraud.

“This is not a fraud case,” Giuliani admitted. In the same case, Trump lawyer Linda Kearns said explicitly that she is “not proceeding” on allegations of fraud.
The title of the article I quoted above is "Donald Trump And His Lawyers Are Making Sweeping Allegations of Voter Fraud In Public. In Court, They Say No Such Thing"
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Yet they were willing to try and claim election fraud in how many attempts in the courts previously? 60 or so wasn't it? Wonder what penalties they've been given. Let me guess - none.
Nope. Not one did. They were all sound and fury right up until they got in front of a judge who could have them jailed for perjury etc.


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Old 31.01.2021, 13:10
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Nope. Not one did. They were all sound and fury right up until they got in front of a judge who could have them jailed for perjury etc.
The whole thing was like a Monty Python episode.

These highly paid lawyers with their high faluting lawyer jargon standing up in front of judges trying to prove fraud cases without daring to use the word fraud. A step too far for even Trump-appointed judges.
On second thoughts more like Fawlty Towers and "don't mention the war".
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Old 31.01.2021, 14:10
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Yet they were willing to try and claim election fraud in how many attempts in the courts previously? 60 or so wasn't it? Wonder what penalties they've been given. Let me guess - none.
I believe last count was over 80 cases. The only "victory" I know about was in Pennsylvania. Observers filed suit saying they were too far away to reasonably see the counting process. A judge agreed and the observers were allowed to move up as close as 6 ft away.

Back on topic...So far Biden isn't wowing me as a new president, not that he has an easy task. He's insistent that his trillion-dollar plan must pass Congress, not some compromise version. I think it's too much and needs to be scaled back. I'm not a fan of the student loan forgiveness in its current proposal either.
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Old 31.01.2021, 16:02
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I believe last count was over 80 cases. The only "victory" I know about was in Pennsylvania. Observers filed suit saying they were too far away to reasonably see the counting process. A judge agreed and the observers were allowed to move up as close as 6 ft away.

Back on topic...So far Biden isn't wowing me as a new president, not that he has an easy task. He's insistent that his trillion-dollar plan must pass Congress, not some compromise version. I think it's too much and needs to be scaled back. I'm not a fan of the student loan forgiveness in its current proposal either.
Fair enough. I disagree to some extent because given interest rates, etc, this is the time to go big to help prop up the economy and the people. I think a previous stimulus in 2008, 2009 for example could have been bigger. What I disagree with is the distribution of cash payments. Money really needs to go to people who need it. Also, I think people need more than a single cash payment. But I’m not sure everyone eligible for the stimulus needs it. Also, small businesses, local governments and schools need an infusion of cash.

The student loan stuff is interesting. I think they need to provide relief, but then work on the whole education structure... so many problems. But I am sort of with the left on this. Forgive the debt and put money into the economy.
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Old 31.01.2021, 18:13
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10 moderate GOP senators offer Biden talks on smaller relief package.

https://us.cnn.com/2021/01/31/politi...den/index.html

Let's see how this goes.
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Old 31.01.2021, 18:50
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The judge (Tipton) was appointed by Trump and is from Texas, so go figure. [Judge who has blocked Biden's order blocking deportation]
Apropos, one of the first of judge Tipton's victims.
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A survivor of the 2019 mass shooting at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, that left 23 people dead was deported to Juarez Mexico.

Rosa told KTSM that she has her “whole life” in El Paso, where she also graduated high school. “I got there when I was little — I don’t remember anything about Juarez,” she said.

According to a local ABC station, Rosa is also one of a number of witnesses the local district attorney had lined up for a coming trial in the 2019 shooting case.
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Apropos, one of the first of judge Tipton's victims.
The man claims to be a Christian and yet has no problem breaking up families and tearing people away from their homes.

Heartless is the only word I can think of for it. He must have no conscience.
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Old 31.01.2021, 19:18
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I believe last count was over 80 cases. The only "victory" I know about was in Pennsylvania. Observers filed suit saying they were too far away to reasonably see the counting process. A judge agreed and the observers were allowed to move up as close as 6 ft away.

Back on topic...So far Biden isn't wowing me as a new president, not that he has an easy task. He's insistent that his trillion-dollar plan must pass Congress, not some compromise version. I think it's too much and needs to be scaled back. I'm not a fan of the student loan forgiveness in its current proposal either.
I don't have high hopes of Biden but anybody is an improvement over the predecessor.
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I don't have high hopes of Biden but anybody is an improvement over the predecessor.
Indeed. Big Bird would be an improvement over Trump.
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10 moderate GOP senators offer Biden talks on smaller relief package.

https://us.cnn.com/2021/01/31/politi...den/index.html

Let's see how this goes.
Two big differences I saw are a more selective process for individual stimulus checks, which might be reasonable, and way less money for public schools because the R’s don’t want teachers’ unions to have too much control.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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I don't have high hopes of Biden but anybody is an improvement over the predecessor.
Maybe.

Maybe not.

I didn't think that anyone could be worse than GWB, then we got Obama, who solidified my resolve to get out of Dodge permanently.

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Two big differences I saw are a more selective process for individual stimulus checks, which might be reasonable, and way less money for public schools because the R’s don’t want teachers’ unions to have too much control.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Yes, at least the first point is very reasonable. Portman on SOTU also vaguely talked about other grease in the Biden package that allegedly had nothing to do with Covid.
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Maybe.

Maybe not.

I didn't think that anyone could be worse than GWB, then we got Obama, who solidified my resolve to get out of Dodge permanently.

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Good to see that FOX is back in good form again.

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That doesn't bode well on a 4 year term.
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That doesn't bode well on a 4 year term.
Could end up worse than Vietnam.
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