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You can’t compare the two. In my little town in Central Switzerland, a severely depressed mother jumped into a manure pit 30 years ago and took one of her children with her. Both died. I can imagine the story is similar.

Anyone who is just “strapped” could easily kill multiple people within seconds at any point in time and at any place. I don’t know his mindset and feel violated having to sit next to a man toting a pistol.
Well, expecting the values of your little town in central Switzerland to be global and to feel "safe" everywhere you travel is a bit naive, no?

If you are visiting them, you have to adapt to the local customs and way of life
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Well, expecting the values of your little town in central Switzerland to be global and to feel "safe" everywhere you travel is a bit naive, no?

If you are visiting them, you have to adapt to the local customs and way of life
I grew up in the States and still have family there. Walking around with arms was never considered a local custom until the last decade, and even now it’s not really accepted by many.
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Here we go again. In 2021, when inflation was starting, the White House downplayed it, called it inflationary, and now have moved on to blaming Putin.

Now, with a GDP report that likely will report a GDP contraction coming out Thursday and a an already negative Q1, the white house is firing up the spin again and trying to sell that this would not mean a recession…

https://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/writt...n-a-recession/

Never mind that it has been agreed by all kinds of people in a bipartisan way that 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth indicate a recession.

Very coincidental that they are trying to play games a few months before the elections. How far do they have to destroy the economy (by underplaying a real risk) just to maintain power?
Trump left Biden with a debt-laden economy so he stood no chance.

President Trump promised during his 2016 campaign that he would eliminate the national debt in eight years.

The national debt reached a high of $27 trillion in October 2020, an increase of almost 36% since President Trump took office in 2017.

In Trump's first fiscal year (2018) he increased US debt by $1.3 trillion.
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Trump left Biden with a debt-laden economy so he stood no chance.

President Trump promised during his 2016 campaign that he would eliminate the national debt in eight years.

The national debt reached a high of $27 trillion in October 2020, an increase of almost 36% since President Trump took office in 2017.

In Trump's first fiscal year (2018) he increased US debt by $1.3 trillion.
Therefore Biden shouldn't have run and instead let Trump deal with it himself. Well, guess it's a little late for that.

Joe "The buck stops here!" Biden wanted the responsibility, and that's exactly what he got.

Oh and btw, that deficit elimination thing sounds very much like a lie. Source?
"could eliminate" isn't the same as "will eliminate".
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Old 25.07.2022, 22:39
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Trump left Biden with a debt-laden economy so he stood no chance.

President Trump promised during his 2016 campaign that he would eliminate the national debt in eight years.

The national debt reached a high of $27 trillion in October 2020, an increase of almost 36% since President Trump took office in 2017.

In Trump's first fiscal year (2018) he increased US debt by $1.3 trillion.
Obama and Trump all had debts and yet the economy grew. Nice try at deflection and whataboutism. Biden inherited a v shaped recovery from a covid forced recession, he had ready to go vaccines and a lot of good will. He blew it big time
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Therefore Biden shouldn't have run and instead let Trump deal with it himself. Well, guess it's a little late for that.

Joe "The buck stops here!" Biden wanted the responsibility, and that's exactly what he got.

Oh and btw, that deficit elimination thing sounds very much like a lie. Source?
"could eliminate" isn't the same as "will eliminate".
By the way, Trump backed off that claim just weeks after suggesting that trade surpluses would help pay off the debt
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Old 25.07.2022, 23:44
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Therefore Biden shouldn't have run and instead let Trump deal with it himself. Well, guess it's a little late for that.

Joe "The buck stops here!" Biden wanted the responsibility, and that's exactly what he got.

Oh and btw, that deficit elimination thing sounds very much like a lie. Source?
"could eliminate" isn't the same as "will eliminate".
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Old 25.07.2022, 23:57
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Obama and Trump all had debts and yet the economy grew. Nice try at deflection and whataboutism. Biden inherited a v shaped recovery from a covid forced recession, he had ready to go vaccines and a lot of good will. He blew it big time
Trump also had two successive quarters with negative GDP, Q1 & Q2 2020.
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Trump also had two successive quarters with negative GDP, Q1 & Q2 2020.
Come on, this is ridiculous.

And this is not about Trump. The White House tries to redefine what recession means - which (1) shows that they think the US will be in one and (2) makes them look like hapless spin doctors who will be made fun of. I don't even have to be a critic of Biden to see this. Things like this will have them lose votes in the center.
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Old 26.07.2022, 01:23
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Come on, this is ridiculous.

And this is not about Trump. The White House tries to redefine what recession means - which (1) shows that they think the US will be in one and (2) makes them look like hapless spin doctors who will be made fun of. I don't even have to be a critic of Biden to see this. Things like this will have them lose votes in the center.
Actually, the White House has not reinvented the definition of recession, nothing has changed.

There is a blog that discusses the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) Business Cycle Dating Committee.
Read the blog here.

This is not new, the NBER has been around since 1920 and since 1978 has been the body that pronounces whether the US is in recession.

The two negative GDP quarters approach is a rather inflexible definition and does not take into account contraindications in complex economies like the US is creating almost 400,000 jobs a month, which is not a typical recession.

Julius Shiskin (the father of the two-quarters definition) wrote in 1974:

"The bureau’s [NBER] definition of a recession is, however, known to only a small number of specialists in business cycle studies.
Many people use a much simpler definition—a two‐quarter decline in Real G.N.P. while this definition is simplistic, it has worked quite well in the past."

Unfortunately, a number of tweets have distorted the situation and some people have swallowed them whole without any checking.
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Actually, the White House has not reinvented the definition of recession, nothing has changed.

There is a blog that discusses the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) Business Cycle Dating Committee.
Read the blog here.

This is not new, the NBER has been around since 1920 and since 1978 has been the body that pronounces whether the US is in recession.

The two negative GDP quarters approach is a rather inflexible definition and does not take into account contraindications in complex economies like the US is creating almost 400,000 jobs a month, which is not a typical recession.

Julius Shiskin (the father of the two-quarters definition) wrote in 1974:

"The bureau’s [NBER] definition of a recession is, however, known to only a small number of specialists in business cycle studies.
Many people use a much simpler definition—a two‐quarter decline in Real G.N.P. while this definition is simplistic, it has worked quite well in the past."

Unfortunately, a number of tweets have distorted the situation and some people have swallowed them whole without any checking.
What a goof. So you try and dispute my saying that the white is trying to rewrite the commonly held definition of a recession by linking to an article that I linked to in the first place? try a little harder man

The white house can‘t rewrite the perception that people have. According to a CNN poll, 28% approve of the job that Biden is doing on the economy and 2/3 of people believe that we are already in a recession.
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Trump also had two successive quarters with negative GDP, Q1 & Q2 2020.
It was literally 2 months, March and April where the economy tanked due to COVID. If you blinked, you missed this „recession“.

Also most other nations had the same contraction
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At the same time you have cases like Jose Alba. A NY bodega clerk who was attacked by the boyfriend of an outraged entitled customer and killed the attacker in self defense. He was charged with murder (charge now dropped due to public outcry) while the customer who started the entire thing and returned with the boyfriende to take revenge for the failed purchase walked free despite knifing the clerk three times.
And you know about this case......how? Do you just read everything about the American "dems", shootings, "MeToo" etc? Wow. And then feel the urge to rant about it here on EF?
Talking about having too much time on one's hands.......or something something.
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Back here, in Creux-du-Van some young mom jumped into the chasm with her toddler sons, killing all three. But your problem is seeing a guy who by your account was just strapped but not threatening anyone.

There are psychos everywhere
Except in America they get full access to high powered weaponry, often from the age of 18 (before one can buy beer) without any restrictions ...
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And you know about this case......how? Do you just read everything about the American "dems", shootings, "MeToo" etc? Wow. And then feel the urge to rant about it here on EF?
Talking about having too much time on one's hands.......or something something.
He's just providing an alternative to whatever garbage comes from some of the other posters here. If you don't like reading unflattering things about Biden and the dems then you should have stopped reading this thread around February/March 2021
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He's just providing an alternative to whatever garbage comes from some of the other posters here. If you don't like reading unflattering things about Biden and the dems then you should have stopped reading this thread around February/March 2021
How exactly is that case he was so outraged about related to "dems"? Or Biden?

Providing an alternative....now that was funny. He is the most obsessed anti- whatever he is against in the USA (is USA a threat for anyone commenting here, btw), that's no alternative, that's something else.....but hey, please keep up the good job, you know, providing those alternate views...
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What a goof. So you try and dispute my saying that the white is trying to rewrite the commonly held definition of a recession by linking to an article that I linked to in the first place? try a little harder man

The white house can‘t rewrite the perception that people have. According to a CNN poll, 28% approve of the job that Biden is doing on the economy and 2/3 of people believe that we are already in a recession.
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It was literally 2 months, March and April where the economy tanked due to COVID. If you blinked, you missed this „recession“.

Also most other nations had the same contraction
"If you blinked, you missed this „recession“. You put recession in quotes so are you arguing for, or against, the "common" definition of two consecutive negative quarters?

The US has been using the NBER definition since 1978 so nothing has changed.
According to the NBER there was a Trump recession and it was the shortest on record so aligning with the "common" definition of two consecutive negative quarters.

Anyway, I do not understand why you believe the NBER will say it is not a recession? There has been no announcement and it usually takes them some months to pronounce, or even in the Trump case over a year later.
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Old 26.07.2022, 14:03
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Recessions are characterized by a rash of business failures and often bank failures, slow or negative growth in production, and elevated unemployment.

Currently, in the US there are non typical contra indicators;
If we look at the same links for the Trump recession then we see bankruptcies and unemployment at their highest and negative production growth.
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That's not a promise, regardless of what some outlet claims. It's still legal to use your brains, marton.

So it's as expected, that claim is a lie.
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Very interesting...there have been 13 cases of people tinkering on Wikipedia to define what does a Recession mean in just the last 2 days

Recession: Revision history - Wikipedia

At least some of it was deemed by Wikipedia to be done for political purposes

User contributions for 2A01:11:8410:3780:BD0C:7C0B:277F:C5EB - Wikipedia

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