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Old 14.01.2021, 19:18
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Re: Cancel Culture

This gossip is real good, the people behind The Pirate Bay just mock the incompetence of Parler people:

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the pirate bay, the most censored website in the world, started by kids, run by people with problems with alcohol, drugs and money, still is up after almost 2 decades. Parlor and gab etc have all the money around but no skills or mindset. Embarrassing.

The most ironic thing is that TPBs enemies include not just the US government but also many European and the Russian one. Compared to gab/parlor which is supported by the current president of the US and probably liked by the Russian one too
https://www.theregister.com/2021/01/...icises_parler/
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Old 14.01.2021, 23:11
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They aren't judging a competitor. They are refusing to host an app. If Parler etc was a true competitor they wouldn't need other platforms to launch it.


Twitter is a private company.


Try this:

Person A wants to sleep with Person B.

B says no. Doesn't actually need to give a reason because their body, their choice etc but they do: they don't like A's politics. Or shoes. Or haircut. Whatever.

A takes exception and says "that's discriminatory because those things are irrelevant to the fact that i want to sleep with you".

Makes no damn difference. The reasons were provided by B to be polite etc. All they needed to do was say No. Because their body, their choice.

A monopoly decision, if you will, but still final.

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Person A wants to eat at Person B's restaurant.

B says no. Doesn't actually need to give a reason because his restaurant. his choice etc but he does: he doesn't like A's politics. Or shoes. Or haircut. Or color of the skin. Or BLM affiliation. Whatever.

A takes exception and says "that's discriminatory because those things are irrelevant to the fact that i want to eat at your place".

Makes no damn difference. The reasons were provided by B to be polite etc. All he needed to do was say No. Because his restaurant, his choice.

A monopoly decision, if you will, but still final.

Restaurant is a private company.
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Re: Cancel Culture

Your point? Most restaurants reserve the right not to serve customers for whatever reason.
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Old 14.01.2021, 23:21
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Re: Cancel Culture

Try refusing serving black guy who invokes BLM in California.
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Old 14.01.2021, 23:35
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Your point? Most restaurants reserve the right not to serve customers for whatever reason.
Places do not have the right to refuse for whatever reason (at least not in the U.K. - see this case) Gay snub Cornish B&B owners lose Supreme Court appeal http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25119158
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Old 15.01.2021, 00:51
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Try refusing serving black guy who invokes BLM in California.
But the Trump/Twitter thing isn't about race or ethnicity but you know that. You are bringing more facets in just to try and prove the point.


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Places do not have the right to refuse for whatever reason (at least not in the U.K. - see this case) Gay snub Cornish B&B owners lose Supreme Court appeal http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25119158
Sexual orientation/sex/ ethnicity are, I believe, protected under law. Being an arsehole who encourages violent action is not.

Non-discriminatory reasons are permitted in the UK.

Waving a gun around, Sir? I'm afraid we don't have any tables.
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Old 15.01.2021, 01:10
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Re: Cancel Culture

Show me an BLM account inciting violence that was banned.
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Show me an BLM account inciting violence that was banned.
Why?

One with 80 mil followers?

I can find you a few women banned for saying a bloke is a bloke. Would that help?
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Old 15.01.2021, 01:24
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Re: Cancel Culture

Nope.
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Old 16.01.2021, 14:16
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Places do not have the right to refuse for whatever reason (at least not in the U.K. - see this case) Gay snub Cornish B&B owners lose Supreme Court appeal http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25119158
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Sexual orientation/sex/ ethnicity are, I believe, protected under law. Being an arsehole who encourages violent action is not.

Non-discriminatory reasons are permitted in the UK.

Waving a gun around, Sir? I'm afraid we don't have any tables.
I was making the point "that for whatever reason" is not the case.
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Old 16.01.2021, 15:08
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Old 16.01.2021, 19:51
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Re: Cancel Culture

Donald Trump's accounts appear to have been restored on Facebook and Instagram (although Facebook did say they he was only temporarily suspended). I think this story is a lot bigger and more important than the President's ban but an interesting development none the less.
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Old 16.01.2021, 22:19
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Donald Trump's accounts appear to have been restored on Facebook and Instagram (although Facebook did say they he was only temporarily suspended). I think this story is a lot bigger and more important than the President's ban but an interesting development none the less.
I never would have believed that time can fly this quickly ...




... so much hate and incitement to violence, this (on on FB) is truly unacceptable:



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Old 16.01.2021, 22:58
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Show me an BLM account inciting violence that was banned.
All the ones i saw were about protecting oneself from police violence, itís shocking to see the difference in policing when a bunch of yíall queda assembled for a protest, itís almost like they made evident what the blm protesters have been saying all along, racism in America is institutional
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Old 17.01.2021, 16:36
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All the ones i saw were about protecting oneself from police violence, itís shocking to see the difference in policing when a bunch of yíall queda assembled for a protest, itís almost like they made evident what the blm protesters have been saying all along, racism in America is institutional
With the capitol event there's one white shot dead by police in one event. With the BLM protests and riots, how many blacks were shot dead by police on average?

So which was deadlier for which ethnicity?
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Old 18.01.2021, 12:01
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... so much hate and incitement to violence, this (on on FB) is truly unacceptable:



It's not that long ago that the leader of the opposition in the UK (Jeremy Corbyn) was a member of an anti-semitic group on Facebook. It's remarkable what these guardians of ethics and social responsibility allow on their platforms!

Ultimately, this is the biggest issue we face, quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Old 18.01.2021, 12:08
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It's not that long ago that the leader of the opposition in the UK (Jeremy Corbyn) was a member of an anti-semitic group on Facebook. It's remarkable what these guardians of ethics and social responsibility allow on their platforms!

Ultimately, this is the biggest issue we face, quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
FB will be cancelled imho for attention engineering and causing addiction (and something else, but I want to avoid being impolite).
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Old 18.01.2021, 12:09
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It's not that long ago that the leader of the opposition in the UK (Jeremy Corbyn) was a member of an anti-semitic group on Facebook. It's remarkable what these guardians of ethics and social responsibility allow on their platforms!

Ultimately, this is the biggest issue we face, quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
People in the US don't care that much about UK's politicians. You're severely overestimating their average interest for topics outside the US.

This is something real funny of this thread, we care a lot about Trump and social media companies, while they couldn't care less about our opinion. I guess we need to stop for a while a think about parasocial interactions.
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People in the US don't care that much about UK's politicians. You're severely overestimating their average interest for topics outside the US.

This is something real funny of this thread, we care a lot about Trump and social media companies, while they couldn't care less about our opinion. I guess we need to stop for a while a think about parasocial interactions.
They care about opinions - hence the function of 'likes' and reposts. It's to track, quantify and be able to predict them in order to create and manipulate what we will happen to like..Patterns and the ability to predict is what counts, in data. That's what holds the capital.

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Old 18.01.2021, 12:20
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People in the US don't care that much about UK's politicians. You're severely overestimating their average interest for topics outside the US.

This is something real funny of this thread, we care a lot about Trump and social media companies, while they couldn't care less about our opinion. I guess we need to stop for a while a think about parasocial interactions.
It's ironic that you say the US don't care about things that go on beyond their borders, because this is precisely where the US social media giants are about to be wrapped in chains. Though the point with Mr Corbyn is quite relevant in the US too, in that there is a certain blindness to dealing to some issues on social media as has already been pointed out for example with BLM.

I think the u-turn, or rather reappraisal by Facebook on the Whatsapp privacy notice is a sign that whilst the social media giants don't care for our opinions, they do realise that people are the product. Not a momentous victory, but certainly a bloody nose. As with everything on the internet, if something goes viral and gathers momentum, a huge number of people can switch platform in a very short space of time. Once a critical mass is reached then it could very soon be goodbye Facebook/Twitter etc. (until they go and buy the competition!).
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