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14.12.2022, 12:32
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| | Re: Cancel Culture | Quote: | |  | | | but by questioning why other people are not willing to do something then it gives the impression that you do expect it of them. HTH. | | | | | Do you understand that the term " affording someone the courtesy" does not mean "I am questioning your decision on something I expect you to do", right?
Actually, never mind. You are determined to misinterpret and misrepresent literally anything I write to suit your narrative. If you want to win your angry little argument and feel validated in your outrage then, sure, have at it. In this woke world everyone can have a prize and not feel like they're left out. | 
14.12.2022, 12:50
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| | Re: Cancel Culture | Quote: | |  | | |
This is exactly what is happening at the moment. Not too sure however what this has to do with Cancel Culture!
Study estimates trans youth population has doubled in 5 years
| | | | | Did you ever consider that there might be a logical explanation for that? Here's an interesting article that explains why: https://theconversation.com/whats-be...l-reads-161962
It explains that transgender youth and gender dysphoria have existed for a very long time, but due to the rise of the internet, transgender youth have been able to connect with one another and that has helped them to become more comfortable with coming forward about it. It has also become something that is no longer treated as or considered a mental illness but instead has become something that more and more parents and doctors have accepted, which has led to more transgender kids being comfortable with no longer trying to hide or suppress their identity as being transgender.
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| | Re: Cancel Culture | Quote: | |  | | | For me, this pronouns thingy is just like working with people from other country. I get really disoriented when I work in culture where titles like engineer, doctor, or lawyer are commonly used. I fail to address people correctly for a couple days and people address to me with my "title" and I.... | | | | | Oh, yeah, that is some sort of classism that still survives in some places (Austria, Germany and Czechia as far as I know), but it's also a term of endearment in other places. I used to call "Mr. Professor" or "Ms. Professor(ess)" (sorry, it's a suffix that doesn't exist in the English language) long after graduating when I met them occasionally. A sign we didn't forget their contribution to who we are as persons today. I mean honest respect not some social norms we have to abide by otherwise....big offense. Not. | Quote: | |  | | | Sometimes you have to learn very fast the first names of the people in the team you're working with because pronouns means you're lazy and you don't care about people.
. | | | | | This is what I like the most, calling people on their first names, I got used very quickly with this.
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14.12.2022, 13:20
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| | Re: Cancel Culture | Quote: | |  | | | Actually, I think it's been demonstrated throughout the thread that most people haven't directly encountered it, have they? | | | | | Irrelevant. The longer you wait the bigger the issue gets. | Quote: | |  | | | Comical that Elon mocks made-up pronouns when you look at his first child's name. | | | | | and what does that have to do with the price of fish?
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14.12.2022, 13:47
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| | Re: Cancel Culture | Quote: | |  | | |
and what does that have to do with the price of fish?
| | | | | Very little, more to do with the price of twitter
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14.12.2022, 14:11
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| | Re: Cancel Culture | Quote: | |  | | | Did you ever consider that there might be a logical explanation for that? Here's an interesting article that explains why: https://theconversation.com/whats-be...l-reads-161962
It explains that transgender youth and gender dysphoria have existed for a very long time, but due to the rise of the internet, transgender youth have been able to connect with one another and that has helped them to become more comfortable with coming forward about it. It has also become something that is no longer treated as or considered a mental illness but instead has become something that more and more parents and doctors have accepted, which has led to more transgender kids being comfortable with no longer trying to hide or suppress their identity as being transgender. | | | | | There is a logical explanation, however it's not the one that you're pushing.
The reason there are more trans youth is combination factors, a junk ideology being pushed onto kids from a young age (including on the internet), exploitation autistic and vulnerable children, homophobic parents who can't accept that their children might be gay, doctors on the make, social services and civil servants who don't want to be accused of being a "transphobe" and worst of all, group think.
When the rise in trans youth and gender ideology is held up to any sort of scrutiny it falls apart completely. It's exactly for this reason that Mermaids childrens trans charity is now under investigation in the UK and the Tavistock trans clinic in England is closing.
Mermaids: Commission opens inquiry into transgender charity https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63837761
NHS to close Tavistock child gender identity clinic https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62335665
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14.12.2022, 14:26
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| | Re: Cancel Culture | Quote: | |  | | | There is a logical explanation, however it's not the one that you're pushing.
The reason there are more trans youth is combination factors, a junk ideology being pushed onto kids from a young age (including on the internet), exploitation autistic and vulnerable children, homophobic parents who can't accept that their children might be gay, doctors on the make, social services and civil servants who don't want to be accused of being a "transphobe" and worst of all, group think.
When the rise in trans youth and gender ideology is held up to any sort of scrutiny it falls apart completely. It's exactly for this reason that Mermaids childrens trans charity is now under investigation in the UK and the Tavistock trans clinic in England is closing.
Mermaids: Commission opens inquiry into transgender charity https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63837761
NHS to close Tavistock child gender identity clinic https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62335665 | | | | | More Apophenia, there is no logical link between your comments and the links you quoted but luckily there are Apophenia treatments.
The Tavistock child gender identity clinic will be replaced by multiple new clinics due to unacceptable waiting times according to the link you provided.
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14.12.2022, 14:51
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An update on Mr. Musk's loans to buy twitter.
Banks say they cannot sell Mr. Musk's debt to investors now because they estimate they won't get even 60 cents for the dollar of debt. Thus, for the current quarter they'll put the loans in the accounting "book" as 80 or 90 cents a dollar even without any transaction happening, so 10-20% loss.
Full story here https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclu...000025246.html
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14.12.2022, 15:23
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| | Re: Cancel Culture | Quote: | |  | | | Irrelevant. The longer you wait the bigger the issue gets.
and what does that have to do with the price of fish? | | | | | Thanks for your update Ursula | The following 3 users would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
14.12.2022, 15:24
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| | Re: Cancel Culture | Quote: | |  | | | An update on Mr. Musk's loans to buy twitter.
Banks say they cannot sell Mr. Musk's debt to investors now because they estimate they won't get even 60 cents for the dollar of debt. Thus, for the current quarter they'll put the loans in the accounting "book" as 80 or 90 cents a dollar even without any transaction happening, so 10-20% loss.
Full story here https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclu...000025246.html
Banks are literally playing if you don't sell you don't lose  | | | | | The only surprise in here is that Credit Suisse is not part of the lenders consortium.
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14.12.2022, 15:39
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@elonjet was free-speeched, RIP https://twitter.com/elonjet | The following 3 users would like to thank Axa for this useful post: | | 
14.12.2022, 16:22
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i wonder why the same people who were asking "why it so hard to just make people simply feel comfortable with the tiniest of gestures?" have not asked elu the same when he said he wouldn't agree with some of the more absurd pronouns like "xir/xer"?
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| | Re: Cancel Culture | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Mr Free-Speech also nixxed a vid of him being booed for 10 mins on-stage. | Quote: | |  | | | i wonder why the same people who were asking "why it so hard to just make people simply feel comfortable with the tiniest of gestures?" have not asked elu the same when he said he wouldn't agree with some of the more absurd pronouns like "xir/xer"? | | | | | Maybe because he posted enough considered and thoughtful information to give context. Why are you so bothered about it anyway?
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14.12.2022, 16:36
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| | Re: Cancel Culture | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | Mr Free-Speech also nixxed a vid of him being booed for 10 mins on-stage. | | | | | Another broken Elon promise | Quote: |  | | | Elon Musk@elonmusk
My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk
1:30 AM · Nov 7, 2022 | | | | | @elonjet is also visible on Instagram and Facebook which have much larger audiences than Twitter.
This is tracking Elon Musk's Private Jet(N628TS) with a bot using public ADS-B data so banning something using publically available data is sort of stupid.
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| | Re: Cancel Culture | Quote: | |  | | | Maybe because he posted enough considered and thoughtful information to give context. Why are you so bothered about it anyway? | | | | | it seems to me that if you belive that people should be using others pronouns then you would also believe they should be used even when someone wants to be called "xer/xie".
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| | Re: Cancel Culture | Quote: | |  | | | it seems to me that if you belive that people should be using others pronouns then you would also believe they should be used even when someone wants to be called "xer/xie". | | | | | I don't have a clue what that sentence means. Maybe just drop it now, eh? I think the dead horse you are flogging has turned into an confused mush.
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| | Re: Cancel Culture | Quote: | |  | | | I don't have a clue what that sentence means. Maybe just drop it now, eh? I think the dead horse you are flogging has turned into an confused mush. | | | | | its not that confusing. you were questioning other people who disagree with pronouns: "Presumably you want to keep your own pronoun and be referred to as such so why can’t you afford others the same courtesy?"
I'm just asking do you think this also applies to the situation described by elu where someone wants to be called "xir/xer"? and if not, why not?
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| | Re: Cancel Culture | Quote: | |  | | | Thanks for your update Ursula  | | | | | Coming from one of the people who keep arguing against "misgendering". Talk about refuting yourself.
You just demonstrated that you're an utter hypocrit.
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Just stop using pronouns and refer to people by their name.
Problem eliminated!
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| | Re: Cancel Culture | Quote: | |  | | | Just stop using pronouns and refer to people by their name.
Problem eliminated!
Tom | | | | | Or nickname...
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