Sure. Until someone exercises their "freedom of speech" against you personally. Then I'm sure you won't stand there impotently tutting if they are suggesting to a huge readership that you should be stripped naked, covered in shit and paraded through the town. But hey, it's all "free speech", right..?

Amnesty International are a pretty good arbiter on the subject. Their view is clear - freedom of speech, which they see as a fundamental right, does not include freedom to spread hate speech or incitement.

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/free-spee...on-human-right

And who are the people who define hate speech? The stanford people obviously paid huge attention to detail and even put "blackbox on their list of "forbidden" words.

The same people apparently were oblivious to the fact that rephrasing "Karen" to "demanding or entitled white" woman might be considered racist? Or might give the impression that they measure with double standarts?

This is actually the critical point. For those that don’t believe in freedom of speech, who should be the ones to regulate it?

Everyone is a freedom of speech warrior from behind their keyboards and particularly on anonymous internet fora. And when it concerns someone or some group they really don't care about or they too are also having negative views/hate about.
Edit: you don't have to love this Meghan woman to see that Jeremy Clarkson episode is absolutely disgusting and shouldn't be allowed to multiply and perpetuate on the internet.

Clarkson's a bore trying to be relevant. Best ignored. All the same, Harry and Meghan are probably raising a glass to him, as he has validated what they've been saying about the British media.

It doesn't look as if misogyny counts as a hate crime in English law.

Maybe practice what you preach..?

Also probably more worried* and "paranoid" about their need to "protection" and security. More docuseries to follow?
*and rightly so.

Kind of to every action there's a reaction even though some folks don't like that.

i think what he said was rather silly but the whole things seems pretty overblown to be honest. if he'd said the same thing about a man no one would probably kick up such a fuss about it.

Hmmmm. Some interesting viewpoints…

John Cleese
@JohnCleese

I seldom experience 'cellular rage', probably
because I was brought up properly, and so
do not work as a journalist for Rupert Murdoch

But when I do, the rage is aimed at Rupert Murdoch, who has done more harm to the moral tone of my country than anyone else in my lifetime

Brian Cathcart
@BrianCathcart

Of course Clarkson's 'apology' is insincere. He has done this kind of thing before and learned nothing, because he just doesn't care. Nor do his employers, the Sun and the Murdoch organisation. They look down on us all as trash, to be insulted and abused for their entertainment.

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“one of the good guys”

Did the word “misogyny” come up on this page?

I'm trying to work out what the single most irritating part of this whole outrage Clarkson circus is.

Is it the willful misrepresentation of what clearly is a joke? Is it the absurd nation that he was inciting violence? The ridiculous claims he is being racist and misogynistic?

Anyone who has ever watched an episode of Top Gear, or his farming show, or read one of his newspaper columns would see straight away that this is his style. He uses hyperbole, satire, absurd exaggeration. He once said on early evening TV that strikers should be shot in front of their families. In fact, anyone with two brain cells to rub together would realise it wasn't meant to be taken seriously. Comedians pretending not to understand jokes has to be pretty close to the top.

I think however it is the shameless hypocrisy that hits top spot though. MPs wrote a joint letter to the Sun yesterday demanding action in part against "violence against women". One of the signatories of the list was Claudia Webb, who was literally convicted in a court of law for threatening to acid attack another woman.

Cancel culture degrades us all.

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Thou/Thee

Have to say I admire your inexhaustible tenacity of trying to find some kind of silver lining and justification for someone hellbent on inflicting depraved public humiliation on another person.

It is what a degree from the University of Glavset teaches them.

Well, not really, although he was a bit "edgy" even back then in the Top Gear times, but it was all in good spirit, funny.

Frankly I don't know what happened to him since then..

He's always been like that, he hasn't changed, just people's ability to take a joke without being offended. Jokes about Gordon Brown, George Michael etc.

I guess the problem is that people who don't like Jeremy Clarkson don't watch him, so they don't get his humour. People who like him, do. The problem is the people who don't like him want to stop others watching and enjoying him.

From 2008



From 2011

I didn't see anything remotely humours in his latest column.

So he has aways behaved badly including assault and the fact that this was accepted in the past is your defence of his current behaviour and it's acceptance going forward.

Tony, you need to get in to your head that what was acceptable and tolerated in the past has come to an end.

You can also say that Meghan is blamed for everything the two people in this couple have done or said even when it was actually Prince Harry the one who said/has done/did. He actually said he feels sorry for Harry.....he doesn't want to see him "shamed", mind.

If that is not misogyny.....(and perhaps other things too), I don't know what it is.

Do you really find it so difficult to see the difference between calling someone a looney and saying that one shouldn't have a vaccine as it is dangerous (even if has been shown that not having the vaccine is more dangerous)?


As for bigot:

a person who is unreasonably attached to a belief...


That mate, is you not me. Your belief (and this isn't directed at all Christians, just the evangelical fundamentalists) is putting the western world, especially womens' rights) back one hundred years.

So get off your high horse and act in a slightly more humble fashion (as your bible says you should).