Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Off-Topic > Off-Topic > International affairs/politics  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10.01.2021, 02:42
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Zurich
Posts: 789
Groaned at 72 Times in 48 Posts
Thanked 1,840 Times in 705 Posts
terrifisch has a reputation beyond reputeterrifisch has a reputation beyond reputeterrifisch has a reputation beyond reputeterrifisch has a reputation beyond reputeterrifisch has a reputation beyond reputeterrifisch has a reputation beyond repute
Cancel Culture

And so, with Facebook, Twitter deleting Trump... What are your thoughts about the media censoring those who can contribute?

I never voted for Trump in either election; I am decidedly not a fan. That said, I am worried about media censorship; now it looks as though Google and Apple are following suit in barring some sites from using their platform. Anyone else concerned about this?
Reply With Quote
The following 12 users would like to thank terrifisch for this useful post:
The following 2 users groan at terrifisch for this post:
  #2  
Old 10.01.2021, 03:50
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: German speaking part
Posts: 16
Groaned at 4 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 20 Times in 11 Posts
Filmliebhaber has no particular reputation at present
Re: Cancel Culture

It started in spring, when Yahoo stopped the possibility to make comments..


Those comments were great but they did not want people to tell the truth, otherwise it would be still allowed.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Filmliebhaber for this useful post:
  #3  
Old 10.01.2021, 03:54
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Zurich
Posts: 789
Groaned at 72 Times in 48 Posts
Thanked 1,840 Times in 705 Posts
terrifisch has a reputation beyond reputeterrifisch has a reputation beyond reputeterrifisch has a reputation beyond reputeterrifisch has a reputation beyond reputeterrifisch has a reputation beyond reputeterrifisch has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

Quote:
View Post
It started in spring, when Yahoo stopped the possibility to make comments..


Those comments were great but they did not want people to tell the truth, otherwise it would be still allowed.
YouTube as well which is why Joe Rogan switched to Spotify (okay ...to be fair, Joe received an amazing contract from Spotify but he also said he was concerned about censorship re: YouTube).
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank terrifisch for this useful post:
  #4  
Old 10.01.2021, 07:42
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Nyon
Posts: 4,448
Groaned at 217 Times in 159 Posts
Thanked 6,102 Times in 2,846 Posts
bowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

Inciting a crime, is a crime. And not protected by the first amendment.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10.01.2021, 08:09
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Zurich
Posts: 13,087
Groaned at 1,124 Times in 765 Posts
Thanked 18,744 Times in 7,278 Posts
Chuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

Quote:
View Post
And so, with Facebook, Twitter deleting Trump... What are your thoughts about the media censoring those who can contribute?

I never voted for Trump in either election; I am decidedly not a fan. That said, I am worried about media censorship; now it looks as though Google and Apple are following suit in barring some sites from using their platform. Anyone else concerned about this?
Another day, another: "I don't understand what is actually happening so I am going to resort to childish conspiracy theories" thread. Donald Trump isn't being censored for fun, he is being censored because he is a man in the most powerful position in the world who is actively and knowingly spreading lies, misinformation, hate speech, subversion of democracy and incitement for people to do violence that are negatively influencing millions of ignorant and impressionable people.

It never ceases to amaze me how people can't figure out such basic and downright obvious things for themselves.

Last edited by Chuff; 10.01.2021 at 08:54.
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users groan at Chuff for this post:
  #6  
Old 10.01.2021, 08:35
BasP72's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Adliswil (close to Zurich)
Posts: 1,923
Groaned at 82 Times in 40 Posts
Thanked 1,777 Times in 848 Posts
BasP72 has a reputation beyond reputeBasP72 has a reputation beyond reputeBasP72 has a reputation beyond reputeBasP72 has a reputation beyond reputeBasP72 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

Quote:
View Post
Inciting a crime, is a crime. And not protected by the first amendment.
The whole Trump thing, I mean, whether or not it is a crime is decided in the future.

The US indepence war started out as a crime (in British eyes), but because of the outcome it is now judged to be a war of independence. At the time the signers of the declaration of independence were criminals, but because of history's outcome are the founding fathers.

If invading Peloci's office had brought voter fraud to light with Trump being the rightfull election winner, who would be the criminal then ?
Reply With Quote
The following 6 users would like to thank BasP72 for this useful post:
The following 6 users groan at BasP72 for this post:
  #7  
Old 10.01.2021, 08:42
Pancakes's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Zurich-ish
Posts: 4,388
Groaned at 251 Times in 177 Posts
Thanked 9,022 Times in 3,408 Posts
Pancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

I think that before anyone can come to an educated opinion in that regard, they need to first educate themselves about the ways the Internet and social media are used to indoctrinate and recruit terrorists and Jihadists and white supremacists, etc., including the fact that these groups often use social media to prey upon and radicalize teenagers.

To simply say that "censorship is bad" is failing to recognize the problem in the first place.
Reply With Quote
The following 8 users would like to thank Pancakes for this useful post:
  #8  
Old 10.01.2021, 08:49
araqyl's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Zurich, West-side
Posts: 2,033
Groaned at 7 Times in 6 Posts
Thanked 1,169 Times in 628 Posts
araqyl has a reputation beyond reputearaqyl has a reputation beyond reputearaqyl has a reputation beyond reputearaqyl has a reputation beyond reputearaqyl has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

Quote:
View Post
Inciting a crime, is a crime. And not protected by the first amendment.
Exactly - and many governments around the world have threatened online service providers with severe penalties if they allow their platforms to be used in criminal acts.
So it's self-preservation, as well as seeking to prevent crimes being committed on their platform - not censorship.

Quote:
View Post
Another day, another: "I don't understand what is actually happening so I am going to resort to childish conspiracy theories" thread. Donald Trump isn't being censored for fun, he is being censored because he is a man in the most powerful position in the world who is actively and knowingly spreading lies, misinformation, hate speech, subversion of democracy and incitement for people to do violence that are negatively influencing millions of ignorant and impressionable people.

It never ceases to amaze me how people can't figure out such basic and downright obvious things for themselves.
This.
If you can prevent a crime by blocking an online social media account, it's a no-brainer: you block the account.

Quote:
View Post
I think that before anyone can come to an educated opinion in that regard, they need to first educate themselves about the ways the Internet and social media are used to indoctrinate and recruit terrorists and Jihadists and white supremacists, etc., including the fact that these groups often use social media to prey upon and radicalize teenagers.

To simply say that "censorship is bad" is failing to recognize the problem in the first place.
The internet is great for this sort of recruitment, as you can just leave bait dangling virtually forever, and the recruits will come to you ... then you hit them with the hard lies once you have them hooked.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank araqyl for this useful post:
  #9  
Old 10.01.2021, 09:16
Pancakes's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Zurich-ish
Posts: 4,388
Groaned at 251 Times in 177 Posts
Thanked 9,022 Times in 3,408 Posts
Pancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

Quote:
View Post
The whole Trump thing, I mean, whether or not it is a crime is decided in the future.

The US indepence war started out as a crime (in British eyes), but because of the outcome it is now judged to be a war of independence. At the time the signers of the declaration of independence were criminals, but because of history's outcome are the founding fathers.

If invading Peloci's office had brought voter fraud to light with Trump being the rightfull election winner, who would be the criminal then ?
But that didn't happen. So stop trying to sugar-coat it and instead, please start trying to see it for what it is.

There is no excuse for what those rioters did, and what they did is called "terrorism" by definition -- "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims" -- regardless of whether or not you or anyone else is willing to admit it.
Reply With Quote
The following 7 users would like to thank Pancakes for this useful post:
  #10  
Old 10.01.2021, 09:22
John_H's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Up above Nyon
Posts: 3,963
Groaned at 116 Times in 70 Posts
Thanked 5,335 Times in 2,064 Posts
John_H has a reputation beyond reputeJohn_H has a reputation beyond reputeJohn_H has a reputation beyond reputeJohn_H has a reputation beyond reputeJohn_H has a reputation beyond reputeJohn_H has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

Would be interesting to know how much social media has made from trump and his 100m online followers over the last 4 years.

Social media is about discussion and the more divisive that it, the more people it attracts .. The platforms would have loved it and raked in millions in both money and new subscribers. But when it no longer fits, just pull the plug.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank John_H for this useful post:
  #11  
Old 10.01.2021, 09:32
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Kt Zurich
Posts: 714
Groaned at 21 Times in 15 Posts
Thanked 2,483 Times in 875 Posts
ennui has a reputation beyond reputeennui has a reputation beyond reputeennui has a reputation beyond reputeennui has a reputation beyond reputeennui has a reputation beyond reputeennui has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

I saw this explanation on Twitter, and it makes sense to me....

Imagine Twitter (etc) is a baker and Trump is a gay themed wedding cake. The baker can refuse to make the cake. Likewise, social media can expel a disruptive presence if that presence goes against their rules for behavior. Social media has behavior standards set by the platform. Like banning here.

Another thought - it’s illegal to scream “fire” in a crowded movie theatre when there is none.

Trump bears some responsibility for incitement. He encouraged it. He’s been encouraging these behaviors over time, whipping up the audience at his rallies. I think the group dynamic was such that there were certain bad actors who wanted to rage and a lot of people were caught up in the mob thing.


Having said all this, I do have a vague discomfort at cutting off Trump -or anyone- forever. But for sure, he needs to be quiet for a while, imho.

One motivation for this action right now is that with the change in administration and control of the congress, social media platforms are probably reassessing their positions.
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank ennui for this useful post:
  #12  
Old 10.01.2021, 09:32
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Zurich
Posts: 8,170
Groaned at 293 Times in 222 Posts
Thanked 18,597 Times in 6,498 Posts
k_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

Quote:
View Post
And so, with Facebook, Twitter deleting Trump... What are your thoughts about the media censoring those who can contribute?

I never voted for Trump in either election; I am decidedly not a fan. That said, I am worried about media censorship; now it looks as though Google and Apple are following suit in barring some sites from using their platform. Anyone else concerned about this?
Rats leaving the sinking ship. They gave him a platform all these years, probably earned good money and now turning their back. I'd say that it's a little late.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank k_and_e for this useful post:
  #13  
Old 10.01.2021, 09:33
Tom1234's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kanton Luzern
Posts: 15,445
Groaned at 502 Times in 402 Posts
Thanked 22,469 Times in 9,130 Posts
Tom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

MusicChick - it's noteworthy that you thanked all those posts that appeared to be against any form of social media censorship - so basically you feel there should be no moderation by moderators.

And yet you willingly volunteer to be, and act as a moderator on this forum.

Doesn't that strike you as a bit hypocritical?

Or, is it one rule for some and another for the select few? comrade?
Reply With Quote
The following 15 users would like to thank Tom1234 for this useful post:
The following 4 users groan at Tom1234 for this post:
  #14  
Old 10.01.2021, 09:36
Pancakes's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Zurich-ish
Posts: 4,388
Groaned at 251 Times in 177 Posts
Thanked 9,022 Times in 3,408 Posts
Pancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

^^^ Yeah, I wonder if someone suddenly came on this forum and started constantly posting violent, racist or Jihadist stuff over and over or how they wanted to kill another member of the EF if they would be banned.
Reply With Quote
The following 6 users would like to thank Pancakes for this useful post:
  #15  
Old 10.01.2021, 09:37
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Zurich
Posts: 13,087
Groaned at 1,124 Times in 765 Posts
Thanked 18,744 Times in 7,278 Posts
Chuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

Quote:
View Post
Would be interesting to know how much social media has made from trump and his 100m online followers over the last 4 years.

Social media is about discussion and the more divisive that it, the more people it attracts .. The platforms would have loved it and raked in millions in both money and new subscribers. But when it no longer fits, just pull the plug.
This is a bit of an oversimplification (I am being generous with my wording here), John. The main things that have changed in the last 4 years are:
  • Trump stepped up his rhetoric and became more dangerous and unpredictable as time progressed.
  • Scrutiny over social media use and the effects of its abuse has very rightly been increased during this time.
  • The political landscape is not the same as it was 4 years ago and understanding of the dangers of unfettered use of social media are now better understood.

Things have to, and are, changing. I say again that anyone who can't understand why people in positions of such political power and political, with access to hundreds of millions of impressionable people on social media platforms, cannot be allowed to pathologically lie and engage in hate speech without any restrictions, must have some cognitive issues. it just doesn't get any more obvious.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank Chuff for this useful post:
  #16  
Old 10.01.2021, 09:39
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: ZH
Posts: 7,742
Groaned at 77 Times in 63 Posts
Thanked 11,471 Times in 4,658 Posts
doropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

Facebook, Twitter, Youtube and all the others, and The Local which owns this forum are for-profit businesses. As such, they set what they provide, und which conditions, and explicitly reserve, for themselves, the right to stop providing.

By signing up, one agrees to their Terms and Conditions. Typically, those include not using the platform to do crime, promote crime or to encourage others to become criminal. Whoever breaches those, risks being excluded.

Moreover, those Terms and Conditions often contain a clause saying, more or less, that the user agrees to the fact that the platform can, at their sole discretion whenever they decide to, block posts or delete profiles. It's not as if users have a right to use the platform at all. None of us does. And there is certainly no right to post any which content a user chooses, without regard to the consequences.
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank doropfiz for this useful post:
  #17  
Old 10.01.2021, 09:46
MusicChick's Avatar
modified, reprogrammed and doctored˛
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: La Cote
Posts: 16,826
Groaned at 361 Times in 248 Posts
Thanked 19,341 Times in 10,098 Posts
MusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

Quote:
View Post
It started in spring, when Yahoo stopped the possibility to make comments..


Those comments were great but they did not want people to tell the truth, otherwise it would be still allowed.
Right. I don't think that all the uncomfortable truth potentially "recruits jihadists".

This idea of grown ups who need to be shielded from data that somebody elses controls...because there are "impressionable, feeble minds out there"? How have we survived the last 20 years of such dangerous internet world? Looks like people need to be more exposed to reality, not less, if their 1st reflex is to get their opponent cancelled. Will it take another 10 years before people mature out of groupthink? Can they get together without being policed?

You push people to dissent and undeground, you know nothing anymore about their priorities, you lose traceability, you create sanitized world where people are no longer trusted and they are reported and cancelled. Apple, Google, You tube, FB, reddit, Twitter are losing big time on this - in the long run. It might be a fake wonderful world with zero credibility. PC policies that everybody likes because they make everyone feel moral, are totally abused, but being even more PC isn't gong to fix this abuse. China is one big PC group think, are people happy and free? People not needing to be validated in the make believe PC world will fix the abuse that PC thinking creates. Make space for others, tolerate other opinions.

Quote:
View Post
The whole Trump thing, I mean, whether or not it is a crime is decided in the future.

The US indepence war started out as a crime (in British eyes), but because of the outcome it is now judged to be a war of independence. At the time the signers of the declaration of independence were criminals, but because of history's outcome are the founding fathers.

If invading Peloci's office had brought voter fraud to light with Trump being the rightfull election winner, who would be the criminal then ?
Absolutely.

If DT is pushed out by extreme measures of biased media and people who cannot stand opposing views, it stinks. It will create far bigger conflict and a long one.

Let's tread carefully when people label their opponents trolls and liars instead of focusing on the issues in debates. These opponents do not deserve to be (perma)banned just because people get irritated that there is somebody with consistent view that differs.

Thanks, terri - this is a good thread.
__________________
"L'homme ne peut pas remplacer son coeur avec sa tete, ni sa tete avec ses mains." J.H. Pestalozzi

“The only difference between a rut and a grave is a matter of depth.” S.P. Cadman

"Imagination is more important than knowledge." A. Einstein

Last edited by MusicChick; 10.01.2021 at 10:04.
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank MusicChick for this useful post:
The following 2 users groan at MusicChick for this post:
  #18  
Old 10.01.2021, 09:52
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Kt Zurich
Posts: 714
Groaned at 21 Times in 15 Posts
Thanked 2,483 Times in 875 Posts
ennui has a reputation beyond reputeennui has a reputation beyond reputeennui has a reputation beyond reputeennui has a reputation beyond reputeennui has a reputation beyond reputeennui has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

Quote:
View Post
If DT is pushed out by extreme measures of biased media and people who cannot stand opposing views, it stinks. It will create far bigger conflict and a long one.

Let's tread carefully when people label their opponents trolls and liars instead of focusing on the issues in debates. These opponents do not deserve to be (perma)banned just because people get irritated that there is somebody with consistent view that differs.
Yeah ok, but you’re conflating “opposing views” with encouraging violence. It goes beyond irritation. If it leads to death, injury, and commission of illegal acts it is beyond a difference of opinion. I feel you’re making DT into a victim of bias. He is not.
Reply With Quote
The following 13 users would like to thank ennui for this useful post:
  #19  
Old 10.01.2021, 09:52
John_H's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Up above Nyon
Posts: 3,963
Groaned at 116 Times in 70 Posts
Thanked 5,335 Times in 2,064 Posts
John_H has a reputation beyond reputeJohn_H has a reputation beyond reputeJohn_H has a reputation beyond reputeJohn_H has a reputation beyond reputeJohn_H has a reputation beyond reputeJohn_H has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

Quote:
View Post
This is a bit of an oversimplification (I am being generous with my wording here), John. The main things that have changed in the last 4 years are:
  • Trump stepped up his rhetoric and became more dangerous and unpredictable as time progressed.
    Scrutiny over social media use and the effects of its abuse has very rightly been increased.
  • The political landscape is not the same as it was 4 years ago and understanding of the dangers of unfettered use of social media are now better understood. Things have to, and are, changing.

I say again that anyone who can't understand something so obvious such as why people in positions of such power and influence, with access to hundreds of millions of impressionable people on social media platforms, cannot be allowed to pathologically lie and engage in hate speech without any restrictions, must have some cognitive issues.
We've seen quite a purge here in social media land over the past week..

At best we can hope it's for good and ethical reasons, to try to assist with some calm while due process takes place in crazy USA.. To help prevent people stirring up trouble etc.. Maybe it's that simple.

However it's gone very far, from London LBC radio being taken off youtube, to the parler app being dropped from the play store to literally thousands of people having twitter suspended or tweets deleted for agreeing with or supporting trump.

All the while there are other terrorist organisations on there, supporters of them, leaders of countries like Iran tweeting and laughing at the situation. a vast ocean of highly questionable material which goes unchecked.

Stirring up hate or violence on any platform isn't good.. but is it better that big tech get to decide what's good and what's not, they decide to allow Red but censor Blue, they allow the Right to tweet but suspend the accounts of the Left.

Big tech created this monster and made a fortune from it, big tech knows what's best for you and me and they are close to controlling how people vote, at least in terms of controlling the narrative that you are allowed to see.
Reply With Quote
The following 6 users would like to thank John_H for this useful post:
  #20  
Old 10.01.2021, 09:53
Pancakes's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Zurich-ish
Posts: 4,388
Groaned at 251 Times in 177 Posts
Thanked 9,022 Times in 3,408 Posts
Pancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond reputePancakes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cancel Culture

Quote:
View Post
Right. I don't think that all the uncomfortable truth potentially "recruits jihadists". This potentuality again is a matter of an opinion.

This idea of grown ups who need to be shielded from data that somebody elses controls...because there are "impressionable, feeble minds out there"? How have we survived the last 20 years of such dangerous internet world? Looks like people need to be more exposed to reality, not less. If their 1st reflex is to get their opponent cancelled. Will it take another 10 years before people mature out of groupthink? Can get together without being policed?

You push people in dissent and undeground, you know nothing anymore, you lose traceability, you create sanitized world where people are no longer trusted and they are reported and cancelled. Apple, Google, You tube, reddit, Twitter are losing big time on this - in the long run. PC policies that everybody likes because they make everyone feel moral, are totally abused, but being even more PC isn't gong to fix this abuse. China is one big PC group think, are people happy and free? People not needing to be validated in the make believe PC world will fix the abuse that PC thinking creates. Make space for others, tolerate other opinions.



Absolutely.

If DT is pushed out by extreme measures of biased media and people who cannot stand opposing views, it stinks. It will create far bigger conflict and a long one.

Let's tread carefully when people label their opponents trolls and liars instead of focusing on the issues in debates. These opponents do not deserve to be (perma)banned just because people get irritated that there is somebody with consistent view that differs.
It's interesting when you talk about people needing to be more tolerant of opposing views when you yourself treat people who do not support Trump here differently from those who do. You have also very clearly demonstrated in the past that you moderate with your personal biases.

If there was a group on Facebook that consisted of thousands or millions of people discussing their plot to assassinate Trump, would you feel that that group should not be removed from social media?
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank Pancakes for this useful post:
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cancel Swiss flight or wait for them to cancel? ormesome Transportation/driving 135 21.09.2020 14:50
Cancel car importation AdrienBe Transportation/driving 0 06.03.2017 11:46
Liability Insurance - how to cancel? ju_zimmermann Insurance 2 10.03.2014 15:05
Modern western culture superior to any other culture ever? scribble International affairs/politics 134 07.02.2011 19:30
Cancel Swisscom subscription Duncheg TV/internet/telephone 1 09.09.2010 21:52


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 12:07.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0