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Old 27.01.2021, 23:05
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Sorry but it is bit confusing now. You merged it with a 5 year old thread

People were political virgins back then, the landscape has changed a lot post Trump.

Anyway no big deal

Not at all. I took this before and ended up in pretty much the same place.
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Old 27.01.2021, 23:36
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Re: Your Political Compass Test (3Min.)

…I feel that I should be on yellow spot, but some of question about religion, traditions and parenting brought me more to the centre...
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Old 27.01.2021, 23:39
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…I feel that I should be on yellow spot, but some of question about religion, traditions and parenting brought me more to the centre...
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Old 28.01.2021, 00:21
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Re: Your Political Compass Test (3Min.)

For a contemporary Swiss version that gives personalised advice to voters, see smartvote.ch. It seems one now needs a login. In its early days, it was very accessible. I got maximum points for wanting to protect the environment, which gives me a bias to the left in less detailed systems, though IMHO it‘s a different story. Can‘t be bothered to create a login now. In all other dimensions, I‘m probably a wimp anyway.

In general I find such coordinate systems oversimplified, even Smartvote. One dimension that never crops up is the degree of - how to put it? reactivity, volatility, volubility? What Yeats meant when he said „the best lack all conviction, while the worst/are full of passionate intensity“. With the current pandemic, and not only there, those on both extremes of the political spectrum seem to be reacting straight from their amygdala a lot of the time, all fight/fight/freeze reactions.
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Old 28.01.2021, 10:37
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Re: Your Political Compass Test (3Min.)

I've become more libertarian since 4 years ago

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Old 28.01.2021, 10:45
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Not at all. I took this before and ended up in pretty much the same place.

I took it many years ago too (I am guessing 6-10years ago maybe) on a politics forum, I was a lot more to the left back then. Anyway our lives don't depend on EF threads, merged or non merged
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Old 28.01.2021, 10:52
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Re: Your Political Compass Test (3Min.)

Looking at the scores, could it be that the red, blue and purple boxes only exist in the US?
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Old 28.01.2021, 14:29
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Re: Your Political Compass Test (3Min.)

I'm virtually in the middle of the green box (-5.38, -4.62) and so a poster child in EF mediocrity. My feeling is that I've become more left-wing and libertarian as I've got older. (I'm an extreme champagne socialist...)
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Old 28.01.2021, 14:35
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Re: Your Political Compass Test (3Min.)

Is this some kind of new dating platform?
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Looking at the scores, could it be that the red, blue and purple boxes only exist in the US?
It is difficult to imagine anyone sane giving some of the available answers, even when they are heavily loaded...

but given the number of Americans who still voted for Trump second time around I guess anything is possible there.
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Old 28.01.2021, 14:51
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Is this some kind of new dating platform?
Yes, and you are hot if you end up in the upper left quadrant. Pol Pot hot.
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Old 28.01.2021, 16:23
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…I feel that I should be on yellow spot, but some of question about religion, traditions and parenting brought me more to the centre...
Tbh I don't understand how one can be in the far bottom left corner.

To be that left wing you really need a big controlling powerful state which is anti -libertarian.
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Old 28.01.2021, 17:49
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Tbh I don't understand how one can be in the far bottom left corner.

To be that left wing you really need a big controlling powerful state which is anti -libertarian.
The scale is off in a big way. I consider myself a fiscally conservative, socially liberal person. So rather in the sense of European classic liberal parties.
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Old 28.01.2021, 18:38
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Re: Your Political Compass Test (3Min.)

Y'all just a bunch of boomers
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Old 28.01.2021, 22:07
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Tbh I don't understand how one can be in the far bottom left corner.

To be that left wing you really need a big controlling powerful state which is anti -libertarian.
...is called anarchism...
…Anarchism is a political philosophy and movement that is sceptical of authority and rejects all involuntary, coercive forms of hierarchy. Anarchism calls for the abolition of the state, which it holds to be undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful. It is usually described alongside libertarian Marxism as the libertarian wing (libertarian socialism) of the socialist movement and as having a historical association with anti-capitalism and socialism.
The history of anarchism goes back to prehistory, when humans arguably lived in anarchistic societies long before the establishment of formal states, realms or empires...
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Old 28.01.2021, 22:12
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...is called anarchism...
…Anarchism is a political philosophy and movement that is sceptical of authority and rejects all involuntary, coercive forms of hierarchy. Anarchism calls for the abolition of the state, which it holds to be undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful. It is usually described alongside libertarian Marxism as the libertarian wing (libertarian socialism) of the socialist movement and as having a historical association with anti-capitalism and socialism.
The history of anarchism goes back to prehistory, when humans arguably lived in anarchistic societies long before the establishment of formal states, realms or empires...
This is the bit I don't understand. How do you in reality create a left wing redistributionist society without a big authoritarian state to force ("coerce" if you like) the rich to make an involuntary payment to the poor? It might be possible on a microscale in some sort of voluntary commune, but on a macro scale it just doesn't work in any way. If I'm a billionaire who doesn't want to hand over my cash what's your answer?

My problem with left wing anarchism thus runs deeper that simply disagreeing with it - it doesn't seem to be logically consistent and I can't envisage what it'd look like. In reality you have to compromise on the leftness or the libertarian-ness. All the other corners could work (arguably not well depending on your perspective but they could at least exist).

If there is no authority setting rules (or at least a very light touch authority) you are really in a situation more like the libertarian right anarcho-capitalism.

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Old 28.01.2021, 22:53
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Oh, dear, I'm a leftie!:

Your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.92



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That's about mine, too, perhaps a notch more to the right as I recall. Can't be bothered to redo it as a lot of relatively recently emerged topics are missing, including all the Critical idiocies theories.
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This is the bit I don't understand. How do you in reality create a left wing redistributionist society without a big authoritarian state to force ("coerce" if you like) the rich to make an involuntary payment to the poor? It might be possible on a microscale in some sort of voluntary commune, but on a macro scale it just doesn't work in any way. If I'm a billionaire who doesn't want to hand over my cash what's your answer?
I guess it depends on what you get in return, how it's sold, and what you define as redistributionist society. I wouldn't call Western European countries oppressive, yet their tax rate is easily 50%, probably significantly higher for many. Do you feel oppressed by Switzerland's 40% fiscal rate?

Once you're in the top range of Pavlov's pyramid relative wealth becomes the measure, and if your peers are taxed (held back) more or less the same the relative position doesn't change much.

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If there is no authority setting rules (or at least a very light touch authority) you are really in a situation more like the libertarian right anarcho-capitalism.
If there is no authority setting the rules, or the authority isn't strong/stable enough, some powerhungry do-no-good will sweep in, trying to destroy the authority and kill the competitors in the process while filling the void. In other words there will be civil war until a new king has established a stable position.
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Old 28.01.2021, 23:25
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Tbh I don't understand how one can be in the far bottom left corner.

To be that left wing you really need a big controlling powerful state which is anti -libertarian.
I guess that‘s why we‘re all stoners.
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Old 28.01.2021, 23:33
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I've become more libertarian since 4 years ago

When I first did this test, I was bang in the middle. Now (10 or more years later) I'm somewhat more left than you, but slightly less libertarian. I thought the adage was that if you're not a socialist when you're young, you have no heart, and if you're not a conservative when you're old, you've no head.

Ghandi, hey - what a fascist.
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Old 28.01.2021, 23:38
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Re: Your Political Compass Test (3Min.)

Has Clifton done his?
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