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The Texit referendum thread: Dont mess with Texas

Looks like Texas wants to join the "exit" party.

AUSTIN, Texas On Tuesday, Texas Rep. Kyle Biedermann (R-Fredericksburg) filed House Bill 1359, otherwise known as the Texas Independence Referendum Act. If passed, it would allow Texans to vote on whether the Texas Legislature should create a joint interim committee to develop a plan for achieving Texas independence.
According to Biedermann, the bill is not a resolution to allow for immediate independence. Instead, it would give power to the people via referendum to allow the right to discuss, debate and vote on creating a path toward independence
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Texas succeeding from the union is something that has been ongoing since I can remember, however its only ever been a small fringe voice. That voice is a little bit louder these days. I still dont think it has a chance in hell, but then again this is Texas we are talking about so who knows what will happen.
IF, and this is a big "if", Texas does succeed, it could open the doors for other midwestern states to join them. Are the days of states being united over?
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Old 31.01.2021, 08:32
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Looks like Texas wants to join the "exit" party.

AUSTIN, Texas On Tuesday, Texas Rep. Kyle Biedermann (R-Fredericksburg) filed House Bill 1359, otherwise known as the Texas Independence Referendum Act. If passed, it would allow Texans to vote on whether the Texas Legislature should create a joint interim committee to develop a plan for achieving Texas independence.
According to Biedermann, the bill is not a resolution to allow for immediate independence. Instead, it would give power to the people via referendum to allow the right to discuss, debate and vote on creating a path toward independence
.

https://www.13newsnow.com/mobile/art...b-b130879f1711


Texas succeeding from the union is something that has been ongoing since I can remember, however its only ever been a small fringe voice. That voice is a little bit louder these days. I still dont think it has a chance in hell, but then again this is Texas we are talking about so who knows what will happen.
IF, and this is a big "if", Texas does succeed, it could open the doors for other midwestern states to join them. Are the days of states being united over?
I could see the coasts splitting or North from South, but Texas itself? Cash, border politics, oil..import could kill them. But if so, Crenshaw for president.
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I could see the coasts splitting or North from South, but Texas itself? Cash, border politics, oil..import could kill them. But if so, Crenshaw for president.
Silicon Valley just relocated to Silicon Hills (Austin), so that will complicate things even further. Texas has the oil, and the ports to support the entire midwest. Most of these midwestern states (Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, etc) already view themselves as smaller versions of Texas. Or at least they look up to Texas.
I do believe if Texas does succeed a few states will join them. The so called bread basket flyover states.
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How many electoral collage votes would the Republicans lose?

Not gonna happen.
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Silicon Valley just relocated to Silicon Hills (Austin), so that will complicate things even further. Texas has the oil, and the ports to support the entire midwest. Most of these midwestern states (Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, etc) already view themselves as smaller versions of Texas. Or at least they look up to Texas.
I don't blame them.

The US will never let Texas even prep the conditions, though. Dems will focus on campaigning there, me thinks, now when elections are off the list.
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How many electoral collage votes would the Republicans lose?

Not gonna happen.
Under normal circumstances I would agree but if we are to believe the media then it seems we are already on the brink of another civil war. If that is the case (I hope not) then those votes become irrelevant. Is this another case of the boy who cried wolf? They have been crying wolf since I was a kid, eventually the wolf may actually show up. Like I said, this is Texas, they have always been that way.
I dont know how much public support this really has as it seems most Texans are too concerned with "Don't Californicate my Texas" or "you come as refugees not as missionaries" as they deal with the massive influx of Californians escaping what some call "Commiefornia". Which in itself could be the catalyst to succeed. They might be afraid Texas turns blue.
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Re: The Texit referendum thread: Dont mess with Texas

Texas will become a victim of its own success. Liberals will continue moving to Texas for jobs/cost of living benefits yet will continue to vote for the same silly policies that made their own states unlivable. It's the great paradox of our times haha.
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Re: The Texit referendum thread: Dont mess with Texas

Some would argue that Texas is an occupied country and actually belongs to Mexico.
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Some would argue that Texas is an occupied country and actually belongs to Mexico.
And the whole US belongs to Native Americans.
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And the whole US belongs to Native Americans.
And the whole of Europe belongs to the Romans.

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Under normal circumstances I would agree but if we are to believe the media then it seems we are already on the brink of another civil war. If that is the case (I hope not) then those votes become irrelevant.
I don't believe in the civil war scenario myself. Or at least things will have to get a lot worse before people even contemplate that. People living in relative comfort have too much to lose and would on the whole rather sacrifice liberty than risk losing their real or perceived luxuries. Poor countries have armed revolutions. Rich countries try to do things along the legal path, and just sit it out if they can't.

But that aside, the dems have been making quite a lot of noise about doing away with the electoral college. Of course that is more difficult than it may sound. But if they do, or even if that option is genuinely on the table, all arguments about the GOP desperately needing the Texan votes in the electoral college fall flat.
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I could see the coasts splitting or North from South, but Texas itself? Cash, border politics, oil..import could kill them. But if so, Crenshaw for president.
Texas has a pretty strong economy. Quite a few big corporations are based there. There is a lot of research and tech stuff, especially in the Austin area (even Apple does some stuff there). And medical stuff mostly in the Houston area. Then there is oil, mining, loads of agriculture, major ports. Plus of course tourism. Texas has an amazing coastline for example.

And all this is uplifted and amplified by low levels of taxation and regulation and the Texan can-do attitude. I believe an independent Texas would be entirely viable.

It might be more the rest of the US that has a problem without Texas. For example Fort Worth is a major hub for freight trains and a significant chunk of rail freight from the south east and into places like California hub through that one mega-yard in Texas. Similarly much of the mid west depends on Texan ports for imports and exports.
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According to Biedermann, the bill is not a resolution to allow for immediate independence. Instead, it would give power to the people via referendum to allow the right to discuss, debate and vote on creating a path toward independence......
They are now not allowed to discuss and debate it?
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Some would argue that Texas is an occupied country and actually belongs to Mexico.
I would counter that and say that Mexico actually belongs to Spain.

And Spain actually belongs to Austria.

And Austria actually belongs to a small village in the Aargau.

Therefore Texas is Swiss.
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Old 31.01.2021, 13:37
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Celts!
Neanderthals were there before.

or Dinosaurs before that.
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Neanderthals were there before.

or Dinosaurs before that.
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I would counter that and say that Mexico actually belongs to Spain.

And Spain actually belongs to Austria.

And Austria actually belongs to a small village in the Aargau.

Therefore Texas is Swiss.
I will be on a look-out for the Texan accent today. Texan look? Is there?

US is sexier with Texas on board. What would happen with the rest? Academia? Travel industry? Jazz?
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I will be on a look-out for the Texan accent today. Texan look? Is there?
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Looks like Texas wants to join the "exit" party.

AUSTIN, Texas On Tuesday, Texas Rep. Kyle Biedermann (R-Fredericksburg) filed House Bill 1359, otherwise known as the Texas Independence Referendum Act. If passed, it would allow Texans to vote on whether the Texas Legislature should create a joint interim committee to develop a plan for achieving Texas independence.
According to Biedermann, the bill is not a resolution to allow for immediate independence. Instead, it would give power to the people via referendum to allow the right to discuss, debate and vote on creating a path toward independence
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https://www.13newsnow.com/mobile/art...b-b130879f1711


Texas succeeding from the union is something that has been ongoing since I can remember, however its only ever been a small fringe voice. That voice is a little bit louder these days. I still dont think it has a chance in hell, but then again this is Texas we are talking about so who knows what will happen.
IF, and this is a big "if", Texas does succeed, it could open the doors for other midwestern states to join them. Are the days of states being united over?
It sounds like Gersau all over again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gersau
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