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Old 02.02.2021, 13:34
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Interesting regarding what you said about liz cheney. Mcconnell is condemning MTG (what Motorschweitz posted above) but in turn he is also
defending Liz Cheney.


"Rep. Liz Cheney, under fire from former President Donald Trump and his staunchest defenders, is picking up support from some influential Republicans as her allies close ranks and resist the effort to oust her from the third-ranking spot in House GOP leadership.On Monday, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell was the latest Republican to give her a boost, saying in a statement to CNN that she had "the courage" to act on her convictions in the aftermath of her vote to impeach Trump last month on a charge he incited the deadly insurrection that ransacked Capitol Hill on January 6.
"Liz Cheney is a leader with deep convictions and the courage to act on them," McConnell said. "She is an important leader in our party and in our nation. I am grateful for her service and look forward to continuing to work with her on the crucial issues facing our nation."



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As much as many on the left hate McConnell and have tried to paint him as another Trumpster, he really isn't. He just made the Faustian deal to use Trump to get what he wants and then try and rid himself of Trump, cleanly. Looks like it's backfiring on him. I've got Trumpster relatives in the US, and they are calling him "B*tch Mitch" now.

I don't think he realized the extent of the disquiet in the traditional Republican base that Trump tapped into and woke up. Now the cat's out of the bag and the GOP is ripping itself apart. Kinda sad for everyone. A strong, principled opposition party is important, no matter who has the power.
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Old 02.02.2021, 21:33
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To be honest, I think she's a delusional narcissist who is clearly addicted to attention in the media and from her supporters (which she essentially 'borrows' from Trump). She said something recently that really threw up a red flag in terms of her narcissism -- something about her "support base," but I can't seem to remember what the quote was exactly. If I can find it again, I'll post it below. But the one thing about narcissists is that they crave and seek attention and validation, and so that's what it's all about for them.
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She sounds like a proper Trump fan.

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I don't want to detract from the Biden thread. Aside from the inauguration and Gamestop, MTG is in the news everywhere now. I have to say i am completely fascinated as well as aghast when I read about her. But how is she still or how did she even get to congress?
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Old 02.02.2021, 21:45
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He just made the Faustian deal to use Trump to get what he wants and then try and rid himself of Trump, cleanly.
Which cost lives, reduced the reputation of the USA and lead to an insurrection. He has got a lot to answer for.

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I don't think he realized the extent of the disquiet in the traditional Republican base that Trump tapped into and woke up.
Of course he know what was going on, it's part of the job to keep in touch with the local part so you know what is going.

You may be naive in you approach, but he is not, he is a very seasoned politician, leader of his party. And he knew very well what was going on and the risks, but he choose to put his self interests and those of his party before country.

If he had any integrity and respected his oath, he be working night and day to defend democracy not trying to faciiltate the rehabilitation of those that carried out these acts.
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If he had any integrity and respected his oath, he be working night and day to defend democracy
The same as I feel about Hairy Nancy and her ilk.

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Old 02.02.2021, 22:28
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Can only assume the GOP punch bowl is still spiked.
I'd like to think that people like Marjorie Taylor Greene must be huffin' paint, but I think they're just naturally stupid.
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Old 02.02.2021, 22:31
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I'd like to think that people like Marjorie Taylor Greene must be huffin' paint, but I think they're just naturally stupid.
She's from Georgia, what do you expect?

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Old 02.02.2021, 22:52
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She's from Georgia, what do you expect?

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Well, she certainly does have something very "ignorant hillbilly" about her.
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Old 02.02.2021, 23:08
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She's from Georgia, what do you expect?

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As Bill Maher said on Friday, how is she not a teacher from Florida who f---s her students?

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Old 03.02.2021, 12:06
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The universe has found balance with the right wing version of AOC.
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Old 03.02.2021, 12:42
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The universe has found balance with the right wing version of AOC.
I disagree with almost any political proposal of AOC, but I don't think she believes in Jewish space lasers.

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Old 03.02.2021, 13:26
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For at least a decade or so, the US demographics have been moving against the GOP in favour of the Dems. Logically such a party needs to adapt it's appeal to attract more voters by either leaning a bit more to the centre or turning down the volume on things like religion, pro life and taking down Obamacare.

But no, the dark money behind the GOP has more ideological aims (such as reducing the size and influence of government and taxation) and forced the GOP into suppressive desperation. The last card they had was the race card, and Trump new how to play it. With that he won the 2016 election.

What they didn't expect was that Trump would become the GOP. The fact that die-hard, principled GOP members who stand up to Trumpians get labelled RINOs shows the very definition of a Republican is at risk of shifting far to the right.

A split party? Don't rule it out.
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Well, she certainly does have something very "ignorant hillbilly" about her.
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A split party? Don't rule it out.
I agree -- but much as there are also divergences of opinion and policy within the Democratic party, a divided GOP would surely mean the end of conservative governments for a very long time to come. I doubt the Dems would be crazy enough to throw away the chance to dominate the electoral landscape for decades by allowing factional disagreements to split them, too.
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Old 03.02.2021, 21:48
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Apparently, the house will vote to see if she’ll be removed from her committee assignments.

So we’ll see......
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Re: Marjorie Taylor Greene

Trump's shoes are hard to fill but I'm sure the media is hoping she'll sell as many papers as Trump did. Our addiction to the ludicrous needs to be fed.
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Apparently, the house will vote to see if she’ll be removed from her committee assignments.

So we’ll see......
Whilst agreeing with the consensus that she's a complete fruitcake that's a very dangerous precedent.

The people who should be determining who is too crazy for the role should the electorate. Expect the Rs to oust one or more left wing democrats in retaliation when they have the chance. Not sure the US needed another point of partisanship.

All she'd do on the committee is spout some crazy nonsense and be ignored. This is / was unnecessary.
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Whilst agreeing with the consensus that she's a complete fruitcake that's a very dangerous precedent.

The people who should be determining who is too crazy for the role should the electorate. Expect the Rs to oust one or more left wing democrats in retaliation when they have the chance. Not sure the US needed another point of partisanship.

All she'd do on the committee is spout some crazy nonsense and be ignored. This is / was unnecessary.
Her electorate voted for Greene to represent them in the House. They can't, and therefore didn't, appoint her to any committees. The decision rests firstly with the House Republicans (who have just stated that they will not relieve her of her positions, despite McCarthy claiming to vehemently decry and disavow Greene's past statements), then with the House as a whole (effectively, the Democrats, as they control it).

And indeed, the Republicans have already threatened to remove a Democrat from a committee, but there is no Democrat anywhere near comparable to Greene with regard to batshit-craziness.

That said, I agree: partisanship is required. That's why the smart option would have been for the GOP to take the moral high road and remove Greene.
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There is Ocasio.

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Trump's shoes are hard to fill but I'm sure the media is hoping she'll sell as many papers as Trump did. Our addiction to the ludicrous needs to be fed.
I agree with this in soo many ways. At the same time, though, for myself... I have felt absolutely exhausted by the ludicrousness of the past four years.

It is like a huge breath of fresh air right now. Or like having a painful wisdom tooth finally removed.
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There is Ocasio.

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She has radical policy ideas that you and many others don't agree with. Greene (or should I say Taylor?) has no apparent policy ideas, just conspiracy theories.

Personally, I think space lasers and staged school shootings are way further up the batshit-craziness scale than subsidized healthcare for all.
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