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Marjorie Taylor Greene

I don't want to detract from the Biden thread. Aside from the inauguration and Gamestop, MTG is in the news everywhere now. I have to say i am completely fascinated as well as aghast when I read about her. But how is she still or how did she even get to congress?



"As CNN, the Washington Post, POLITICO and a score of other outlets have reported, Greene is a shambles of a human being. She subscribes to or has promoted an awful bunch of irrational and absurd ideas and positions, so irrational and absurd that you’d be doing her a favor by calling them merely “fringe.” She has trafficked in false QAnon claims of a global pedophilic-satanic cabal involving top Democrats and Hollywood celebrities; she “liked” a comment suggesting the Parkland school massacre was a “false flag” operation and asserted much the same about the Sandy Hook killings; she appeared to support the execution of Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi (also accusing Pelosi of treason); suggested the Las Vegas shooting was part of a plot to abolish the Second Amendment; claimed the 2020 presidential election was stolen; and asserted the 2018 midterms, in which Democrats took the House, represented “an Islamic invasion of our government.”

On Jan. 21, shortly after Joe Biden took the oath, Greene filed, as she had promised, articles of impeachment against him. Her articles of impeachment won’t go anywhere, but they gave us a pocket preview of her flagpole-sitting skills."

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Re: Marjorie Taylor Greene

To be honest, I think she's a delusional narcissist who is clearly addicted to attention in the media and from her supporters (which she essentially 'borrows' from Trump). She said something recently that really threw up a red flag in terms of her narcissism -- something about her "support base," but I can't seem to remember what the quote was exactly. If I can find it again, I'll post it below. But the one thing about narcissists is that they crave and seek attention and validation, and so that's what it's all about for them.

I think that's a huge problem in politics right now -- people who are in it more for the attention and fame than anything else. I think Marjorie Taylor Greene is also also a good example of the Dunning-Kruger effect, which itself is closely associated with the belief in conspiracy theories.
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Old 01.02.2021, 16:35
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Re: Marjorie Taylor Greene

Batshit crazy.

There is no hope for "healing", reconcilliation or any form of common sense cooperation with these people. These people need to be defeated politically. And this is exactly why the Dems need stay electable for moderates and independents, and not go into fantasy world themselves.
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Re: Marjorie Taylor Greene

I guess we don't want her gain relevance on Google, not searching her name
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But how is she still or how did she even get to congress?
I think I said this in another thread, in the context of "Trump himself is not the problem". She got to Congress because there's a ton of people in the US (i.e. some tens of millions) that support their message: ultra conservative, very religious, guns promoters...and probably quite racist.
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Re: Marjorie Taylor Greene

Interestingly, the press release issued by Greene detailing the allegations in her articles of impeachment seems to have been taken down from her website, and links to it from other websites are broken. Clearly a major hack by Antifa.
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Re: Marjorie Taylor Greene

all of the above comments, she is definately dangerous, narcissistic, bs crazy etc etc.


interesting point fm politico :
"Some people are saying maybe Nancy Pelosi will throw her out of Congress, Sterling said, referring to the House speaker.

“The Democrats would never throw her out. They want her to be the definition of what a Republican is. They’re gonna give her every opportunity to speak and be heard and look crazy"


well she does seem to just go on and on...or is she just filling the void cos trump has no social media now?


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I guess we don't want her gain relevance on Google, not searching her name

do yourself a favour, you do not want to google her...
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Re: Marjorie Taylor Greene

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I don't want to detract from the Biden thread. Aside from the inauguration and Gamestop, MTG is in the news everywhere now. I have to say i am completely fascinated as well as aghast when I read about her. But how is she still or how did she even get to congress?



"As CNN, the Washington Post, POLITICO and a score of other outlets have reported, Greene is a shambles of a human being. She subscribes to or has promoted an awful bunch of irrational and absurd ideas and positions, so irrational and absurd that you’d be doing her a favor by calling them merely “fringe.” She has trafficked in false QAnon claims of a global pedophilic-satanic cabal involving top Democrats and Hollywood celebrities; she “liked” a comment suggesting the Parkland school massacre was a “false flag” operation and asserted much the same about the Sandy Hook killings; she appeared to support the execution of Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi (also accusing Pelosi of treason); suggested the Las Vegas shooting was part of a plot to abolish the Second Amendment; claimed the 2020 presidential election was stolen; and asserted the 2018 midterms, in which Democrats took the House, represented “an Islamic invasion of our government.”

On Jan. 21, shortly after Joe Biden took the oath, Greene filed, as she had promised, articles of impeachment against him. Her articles of impeachment won’t go anywhere, but they gave us a pocket preview of her flagpole-sitting skills."

https://www.politico.com/
Don't know her but what you quote sounds like Trump. How did he get into the white house?
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Re: Marjorie Taylor Greene

A difficult choice, by my favorite is her assertion that the California forest fires were caused by a Jewish-sponsored space laser.
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A difficult choice, by my favorite is her assertion that the California forest fires were caused by a Jewish-sponsored space laser.
Imagine people like her having the nuclear codes. Or this trigger-happy brain clone of hers from Colorado, Bobert or whatever he name was.
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Imagine people like her having the nuclear codes. Or this trigger-happy brain clone of hers from Colorado, Bobert or whatever he name was.
Boebert. Don't get me started on her. She's another QAnon nutter, with the bar-owning gun-toting as the icing on the cake.
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Re: Marjorie Taylor Greene

Looks like she's run afoul of Mitch McConnell.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/01/p...rty/index.html

I don't have much sympathy for him as he tries to right the sinking ship of the GOP.
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I think I said this in another thread, in the context of "Trump himself is not the problem". She got to Congress because there's a ton of people in the US (i.e. some tens of millions) that support their message: ultra conservative, very religious, guns promoters...and probably quite racist.
This.

A large number of conservative voters are poorly educated, community isolated, gun-loving and racist...nothing new, it's a product handed down through generations. On the flip side, they are tired of governments of both flavours not delivering on promises.

People like Trump and MTG tell these folk what they want to here, and they will loyally follow anyone that does. It is the militant side of Trump's base that principled GOP fear, as the Capitol riot quite rightly justified.
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Re: Marjorie Taylor Greene

...and to top that crapcake she is a part of the House Education and Labor Committee. What's next, QAnon chapter in SAT? Hopefully, the House will manage to contaminate the issue and remove her from there.
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\Hopefully, the House will manage to contaminate the issue and remove her from there.
I, too, have that hope - but I fear it may be futile.

It increasingly looks like Marjorie Taylor Greene and her ilk are becoming a driving force in today's Republican party.

Rather than call out Greene, a good chunk of the House Republican Conference is busy trying to oust Liz Cheney, the number three Republican and a principled moderate (ish), from leadership because she voted for impeachment.

Adam Kinzinger, another moderate principled Republican who recently launched a 'Country First' movement to try to pull the party away from "the poisonous conspiracies and lies" will likely get primaried.

Trump may (or may not) be gone, but he opened Pandora's Box. Now all the vile things that some once only privately thought, such as the Qanon nonsense, are perfectly OK to say out loud - and act upon. These new politician like Greene, Bobert, Cawthorn, are revelling in the mud - and bringing in the money.

And then we have the far more dangerous new breed, such as Josh Hawley, authoritarians happy to use the crazy wave to ride into power.

Greene is utterly shameless - and her district, and wider 'Q-Republican' fans, love her for it. If by some miracle the House votes to censure her, she will wear that like a badge - and the money will keep rolling in.

Much of this new shamelessness, by the way, can be traced back to the 'owning the libs' narrative that has become a primary motivation for so many. It does not matter what crazy thing is said, it does not matter how vile or offensive, as long as it 'makes liberals cry'. For far too many, this matters far more than keeping the country running.

For some, perhaps many, this started out as a bit of a joke - social media trolls only in it for the lulz. Well, those chickens have well and truly come home to roost, as the crazy is now a major force in US politics.

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I often look to my red state outlaws as a weather vane as to 'whither USA?'. A few are caught up in the Q crazy - but they were always fringe and so easy to dismiss.

More worryingly are the 'tribal Republicans', the up-til-2016 moderate sensible folks who were born and raised in the Republican party. Being republican, defined in their minds, and family lore, by Eisenhower and Reagan (yeah I know those are two very different things), is central to their identity.

They will vote Republican even if these new Republican politicians espouse the exact opposite of the 'family, faith, fiscal responsibility' mantra they hold dear. They cannot see that today's Repubicans like Greene - heck like Mitchell, Graham, Cruz - are not the Republican party they were taught to love. They cannot possibly let go of that label, Republican is their tribe. So they go along with whatever is ascendant within the party.

These Republicans, all intrinsically moderate, will vote for a Greene, Bobert, Cawthorn - and more worryingly a Hawley - no matter what such politicians say or do.

And that scares the bejebus out of me.

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Rather than call out Greene, a good chunk of the House Republican Conference is busy trying to oust Liz Cheney, the number three Republican and a principled moderate (ish), from leadership because she voted for impeachment.

Interesting regarding what you said about liz cheney. Mcconnell is condemning MTG (what Motorschweitz posted above) but in turn he is also
defending Liz Cheney.


"Rep. Liz Cheney, under fire from former President Donald Trump and his staunchest defenders, is picking up support from some influential Republicans as her allies close ranks and resist the effort to oust her from the third-ranking spot in House GOP leadership.On Monday, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell was the latest Republican to give her a boost, saying in a statement to CNN that she had "the courage" to act on her convictions in the aftermath of her vote to impeach Trump last month on a charge he incited the deadly insurrection that ransacked Capitol Hill on January 6.
"Liz Cheney is a leader with deep convictions and the courage to act on them," McConnell said. "She is an important leader in our party and in our nation. I am grateful for her service and look forward to continuing to work with her on the crucial issues facing our nation."



https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/01/p...ell/index.html
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Adam Kinzinger, another moderate principled Republican who recently launched a 'Country First' movement to try to pull the party away from "the poisonous conspiracies and lies" will likely get primaried.
I wish he was a genuine effort to smooth out the hardest differences and inspire constructive cooperation. I don't buy a single bit he says, the cliches, the marketing..I tried hard. He is only campaigning for himself, an opportunist. Not dumb but disingenuous and it's obvious.
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Interesting regarding what you said about liz cheney. Mcconnell is condemning MTG (what Motorschweitz posted above) but in turn he is also
defending Liz Cheney.


"Rep. Liz Cheney, under fire from former President Donald Trump and his staunchest defenders, is picking up support from some influential Republicans as her allies close ranks and resist the effort to oust her from the third-ranking spot in House GOP leadership.On Monday, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell was the latest Republican to give her a boost, saying in a statement to CNN that she had "the courage" to act on her convictions in the aftermath of her vote to impeach Trump last month on a charge he incited the deadly insurrection that ransacked Capitol Hill on January 6.
"Liz Cheney is a leader with deep convictions and the courage to act on them," McConnell said. "She is an important leader in our party and in our nation. I am grateful for her service and look forward to continuing to work with her on the crucial issues facing our nation."



https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/01/p...ell/index.html
It is largely because of McConnell and other Senate invertebrates that the US is where it is. Trump should have been convicted at his first impeachment but no, they set him free, empowered to commence the Big Lie and seal the fate of the GOP as a party of cult.

The only GOP Senator who will be judged kindly by history in all this will be Romney...he has been a Senator of principle without waiver through the rise of Trumpism.
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Interesting regarding what you said about liz cheney. Mcconnell is condemning MTG (what Motorschweitz posted above) but in turn he is also
defending Liz Cheney.
It looks like Mitch is starting to realise, as so many have throughout history, that all too often there comes a point when one can't control the monster one helped to make.

He is finally waking up to the fact that he could soon be facing a fight for who controls the reins of the Republican party.

Will he and by extension the Republican establishment win, or will the re-energized Trumpist/Qanon wing win?

Words I never, ever, thought I'd utter: In this battle, I hope Mitch wins.

And that illustrates how completely messed up things stand today.
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Can only assume the GOP punch bowl is still spiked.
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