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Old 02.02.2021, 18:56
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RIP Captain Sir Tom Moore

Just reported on the BBC, he died from C19.
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Old 02.02.2021, 18:58
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Sir Tom Moore RIP

Contracted the virus and has passed away. RIP.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-...herts-55881753

He inspired thousands to follow in his footsteps to raise money to support health care workers around the world.
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Old 02.02.2021, 18:59
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Re: RIP Captain Sir Tom Moore

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Just reported on the BBC, he died from C19.
RIP. Very sad.

I think this is one of those occasions where a very elderly person was dying and Covid contracted in hospital took them away a bit faster.

My sister (lecturer and senior hospital pharmacist) said she would be very surprised if a 100 year old survived pneumonia without the Covid. That's probably why he didn't have the vaccine.
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Old 02.02.2021, 19:17
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RIP. Very sad.

I think this is one of those occasions where a very elderly person was dying and Covid contracted in hospital took them away a bit faster.

My sister (lecturer and senior hospital pharmacist) said she would be very surprised if a 100 year old survived pneumonia without the Covid. That's probably why he didn't have the vaccine.
This is exactly what happened to my 93 year old uncle.
He had a fall, contracted Covid in hospital and subsequently died from pneumonia.

Sir Tom had been suffering from pneumonia for several weeks and therefore couldn’t have the Covid vaccine. It’s unclear where how he actually contracted Covid.

RIP Sir Tom, you were an inspiration.

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Old 02.02.2021, 19:19
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RIP. Very sad.

I think this is one of those occasions where a very elderly person was dying and Covid contracted in hospital took them away a bit faster.

My sister (lecturer and senior hospital pharmacist) said she would be very surprised if a 100 year old survived pneumonia without the Covid. That's probably why he didn't have the vaccine.
Not quite sure where you get the idea he contracted it in hospital.

"Capt Sir Tom tested positive for Covid-19 last week. He had not had the vaccine."

"The 100-year-old, who raised almost £33m for NHS charities, was taken to Bedford Hospital after requiring help with his breathing on Sunday."
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Re: RIP Captain Sir Tom Moore

very sad, yes. although, realistically, how long was he going last?

(groans awash...)
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Old 02.02.2021, 19:36
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very sad, yes. although, realistically, how long was he going last?

(groans awash...)
Seeing that "candy bomber" Gail Halvorsen (100) survived C19, Sir Tom still could have had a couple of years.
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Just reported on the BBC, he died from C19.
But leaves behind a great piece of history that he created during a pandemic - can’t really think of a better time and legacy to go when my time is up
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What a legend, RIP Captain.
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Old 02.02.2021, 23:22
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Re: RIP Captain Sir Tom Moore

UK tabloids demanding a state funeral for Capt. Tom. I wonder if they will demand each of the frontline NHS workers who died of Covid get a state funeral? It would sure make up for the Thursday clap falling by the wayside.
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…back in first lockdown I asked my elder son to draw something, when I come back from work in evening, found Captain Tom on the fridge...
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Re: RIP Captain Sir Tom Moore

He was an inspiration, but raises a few questions

Why did British Airways gift him and family a holiday to Barbados in January, when we were not allowed to travel

If he had Covid why were family at his bedside, are they now self isolating for 10 days and will miss funeral

just think the rules seem to change depending who you are, should be more consideration for the other 100 000 that have died and the families that didn't get to see them or attend funerals
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Re: RIP Captain Sir Tom Moore

He possibly became a victim of his own success. British hospitals are dangerous places. I would suppose his family were allowed to visit because they knew he'd be a goner. The policies have changed somewhat over the course of the pandemic and not necessarily for the better.
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yes, probably isolating. No exception made for him (as far as I know) - family is generally allowed in to say goodbye now.

Why would they miss the funeral? They will surely just arrange it for after their isolation is over - no requirement to have cremation / interment within X days of death (assuming he was Christian / non-denominational...I know some other faiths have different approaches).

Or are the funeral homes so overloaded that cremation / interment is required immediately?
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He was an inspiration, but raises a few questions

Why did British Airways gift him and family a holiday to Barbados in January, when we were not allowed to travel

If he had Covid why were family at his bedside, are they now self isolating for 10 days and will miss funeral

just think the rules seem to change depending who you are, should be more consideration for the other 100 000 that have died and the families that didn't get to see them or attend funerals
They went on holiday in early December, which whilst not exactly an ideal time to travel was before the travel bans came in.




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yes, probably isolating. No exception made for him (as far as I know) - family is generally allowed in to say goodbye now.

Why would they miss the funeral? They will surely just arrange it for after their isolation is over - no requirement to have cremation / interment within X days of death (assuming he was Christian / non-denominational...I know some other faiths have different approaches).

Or are the funeral homes so overloaded that cremation / interment is required immediately?
Yep, that’s pretty much standard procedure these days.

My cousins were called and asked if they wanted to go in to see my aunt and uncle (who died within a couple of days of each other in different hospitals) when it was clear that they weren’t going to recover and had a short time left.
They saw both of them on different days so I’m not sure how the isolation thing worked but none of them actually caught Covid.

Funerals are taking a while in the UK these days do they’d be lucky to have one within 10 days anyway. My aunt and uncle’s funeral was almost 6 weeks after they died but there were Christmas and New year holidays in the middle of that.

Up to 30 people are allowed to attend funerals and most places have video links in place for people to watch who can be there.
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He was an inspiration, but raises a few questions

Why did British Airways gift him and family a holiday to Barbados in January, when we were not allowed to travel

If he had Covid why were family at his bedside, are they now self isolating for 10 days and will miss funeral

just think the rules seem to change depending who you are, should be more consideration for the other 100 000 that have died and the families that didn't get to see them or attend funerals


He actually went to Barbados in mid-December. The only family at his bedside, were the ones he lived with, and therefore they had already been in contact before he deteriorated and was taken to hospital, his other daughter was on FaceTime. I assume they will delay a funeral until they are out of isolation.
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Matt Hancock calls for a statue of Captain Sir Tom.

Nigel Farage announces he will protect the statue from BLM activists
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Matt Hancock calls for a statue of Captain Sir Tom.

Nigel Farage announces he will protect the statue from BLM activists
Why would he have to be protected? What a nice man.
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UK tabloids demanding a state funeral for Capt. Tom. I wonder if they will demand each of the frontline NHS workers who died of Covid get a state funeral? It would sure make up for the Thursday clap falling by the wayside.
Very sad news about Captain Tom, he was an inspiration - but as for statues & state funerals - What about
Bob Geldoff ? and his worldwide Band Aid concert of the 1980's, to raise awareness and funds for the Ethiopian
famine in 1983-1985. That was a phernomenal achievement as well, surely Bob Geldoff
( sometimes styled Sir Bob Geldoff because of his KBE ) deserves a statue as well ?
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