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I tried to watch some of that yesterday when I noticed it was being live-streamed in the news, and I couldn't get through more than one minute of it.

But it's interesting how they're trying to claim that the impeachment trial is unconstitutional because Trump is no long in office. So according to their argument, I guess they believe that a "lame duck president" should be able to do whatever he pleases without ever having to worry about being held accountable for it.
None of this nonsense matters, just a waste of time and money.

Get a grip.

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Re: Trump - post Presidency thread

Whoop-whoop! Schadenfreude dance continues...

Georgia Prosecutors Open Criminal Investigation of Trump Call
Fulton County prosecutors have initiated a criminal investigation into former President Donald J. Trumpís January phone call to the Georgia secretary of state asking him to ďfindĒ votes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/10/u...gtype=Homepage
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None of this nonsense matters, just a waste of time and money.

Get a grip.

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Get a grip on what, Tom? On reality?

Can you please elaborate? How exactly is it that I do not have a "grip" on reality?
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Get a grip on what, Tom? On reality?

Can you please elaborate? How exactly is it that I do not have a "grip" on reality?


You got a groan. Some people are so predictable.

I'm surprised nobody asked you if you watch CNN...
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It really boggles my mind that Trump sympathizers or supporters say that his second impeachment doesn't matter. It does matter...

Just imagine what they would be doing if Obama had called for Antifa to attack the capitol. There must be consequences and he must not be able to run for the presidency again.
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Get a grip on what, Tom? On reality?

Can you please elaborate? How exactly is it that I do not have a "grip" on reality?
Do you know what, Iíve been stuck in confinement in the Zurich city since over a year. I donít have any of my normal routine of exercise/sport or social contacts, and itís really hard. Especially as this is prognosed to be a very hard winter. The last winter about 11 years ago of minus 11c was hard enough, and this week is prognosed to be about the same.

I welcome all and any schadenfreude about dickhead Trump.
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You got a groan. Some people are so predictable.

I'm surprised nobody asked you if you watch CNN...
With some people, when they give you a groan, you can only take it as a compliment.
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Re: Trump - post Presidency thread

US politics is a very strange animal. The electoral collage to protect the small states, when thatís exactly what the Senate is intended to do. 2/4/6 year elector cycles with term limits for the 4 year, but not for the 2 or 6 years.

The people voting for everybody (Senators used to be appointed by the states) and apparently many voting differently.

As we are now doing a post-mortem of Trump they are gearing up for an election in less than two years time when all the 2 years, 1/3 of the 6 years, but not the 4 years will be up for reelection.

Give me a break, please. Just let them get on with their silly games and donít involve me in it. And yes, I know I can hide this thread, but Iím worried that even more threads will pop up. Canít we keep quiet about this until at least mid-2022?
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With some people, when they give you a groan, you can only take it as a compliment.
It's the same when they try so hard to gaslight you. It makes you wonder why are they so insecure that they can't accept that other people simply have different opinions...Or an opinion at all.

Anyway, this thread is already old...
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Old 10.02.2021, 17:58
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Do you know what, Iíve been stuck in confinement in the Zurich city since over a year. I donít have any of my normal routine of exercise/sport or social contacts, and itís really hard. Especially as this is prognosed to be a very hard winter. The last winter about 11 years ago of minus 11c was hard enough, and this week is prognosed to be about the same.

I welcome all and any schadenfreude about dickhead Trump.
Hang in there... Spring will be here soon. x. At least there will be sunlight to accompany the cold weather that is coming. Some sunlight will be nice...
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Give me a break, please. Just let them get on with their silly games and donít involve me in it. And yes, I know I can hide this thread, but Iím worried that even more threads will pop up. Canít we keep quiet about this until at least mid-2022?
Well, to Americans, it is nice to be able to talk about it with fellow countrymen & women who have to be involved in it, because it is our home country and our vote counts. We should be informed every step of the way until it is time to vote...

Sorry our country sucks so much sometimes.
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Old 10.02.2021, 19:34
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None of this nonsense matters, just a waste of time and money.

Get a grip.

Tom
A report on the news yesterday implied something along these lines. There's no chance that Trump will be convicted, due to the Republican numbers. Once he gets off, he could use that to say that he was innocent all along and that it was a fake charge
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But Trumps lawyers have got everything under control:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/09/u...rnd/index.html
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A report on the news yesterday implied something along these lines. There's no chance that Trump will be convicted, due to the Republican numbers. Once he gets off, he could use that to say that he was innocent all along and that it was a fake charge
I said this from the beginning, it's so clear that this will happen but no one seems to care though.
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Old 10.02.2021, 22:19
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But Trumps lawyers have got everything under control:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/09/u...rnd/index.html
Nothing to do with Trumps lawyers, but amusing all the same.
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US politics is a very strange animal. The electoral collage to protect the small states, when thatís exactly what the Senate is intended to do. 2/4/6 year elector cycles with term limits for the 4 year, but not for the 2 or 6 years.
I agree it's a strange animal. To clarify:

Members of the U.S. House of Representatives serve two year terms. All 435 seats are up for election every two years. Representatives can serve an unlimited number of terms.

Members of the U.S. Senate serve six year terms. These terms are staggered such that states don't elect two senators in the same year. Roughly 1/3 of the Senate is up for election each time there's a general election (i.e. every two years). Senators can also serve an unlimited number of terms.

There are no four year terms in Congress.

The president serves a four year term and is term limited to two terms in a lifetime, whether consecutive or not. Yet a vice president can serve unlimited four year terms.
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A report on the news yesterday implied something along these lines. There's no chance that Trump will be convicted, due to the Republican numbers. Once he gets off, he could use that to say that he was innocent all along and that it was a fake charge
So a President shouldn't be held accountable by being impeached as long as long as the Senate would not vote against him?

Members of the GOP not being willing to vote against Trump doesn't mean that Trump isn't guilty. It only means that the GOP lacks the integrity required to vote against Trump. But many of us already knew that.
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Presidential term limits were instituted as the 22nd amendment (ratified 1951), after FDR was elected to 4 terms. He died in office early into his 4th term.

However, a VP could become President early in a term of office due to succession and go on to be elected for two more terms, serving nearly 3 terms.
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Powerful testimony from the impeachment trial yesterday...

Office Eugene Goodman continues to show what a true hero he is:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...curity-footage
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However, a VP could become President early in a term of office due to succession and go on to be elected for two more terms, serving nearly 3 terms.
If the VP replaces the POTUS, the term counts if sworn in during the first two years.

Harris could be inaugurated January 20, 2023, and be elected twice in addition to that. But she could only be elected once if sworn in during Biden's first two years.

So, Harris (anybody, for that matter) could be POTUS for up to ten years, but not more.
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