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27.02.2021, 22:01
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| | Leaked document: BBC, Reuters participated in covert Propaganda
Operation Mocking bird was never cancled, it just spread, like a virus.
"The UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) have sponsored Reuters and the BBC to conduct a series of covert programs aimed at promoting regime change inside Russia and undermining its government across Eastern Europe and Central Asia, according to a series of leaked documents." https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/20/r...russian-media/
Jimmy Dore is one of the few people who can name names when CIA shows up on CNN, MSNBC etc, posing as "experts". He is also a progessive which is why the Dems attack him on a daily basis. The snake is eating itself.
So that begs the question: Is this just the tip of the iceberg? Reuters have removed ALL commenting on all media. (ahem)
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27.02.2021, 22:28
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| | Re: Leaked document: BBC, Reuters participated in covert Propaganda | Quote: | |  | | | So that begs the question: Is this just the tip of the iceberg? | | | | | Nope. It's complete twadle from beginning to end. Now I've thoroughly rebutted that, perhaps we can concentrate on important things.
So, what do you think about chemtrails?
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27.02.2021, 22:52
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| | Re: Leaked document: BBC, Reuters participated in covert Propaganda | Quote: | |  | | | Nope. It's complete twadle from beginning to end. Now I've thoroughly rebutted that, perhaps we can concentrate on important things.
So, what do you think about chemtrails? | | | | | You know you are absoluteley right. Who could imagine them ever doing such a thing? Even when you have former heads of departments (CIA) admitting such tactics?
Exhaust fumes covering the atmoshere is surely a good thing? | This user would like to thank California Dreamer for this useful post: | | 
28.02.2021, 07:46
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What now, California Dreamer? | 
28.02.2021, 08:17
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28.02.2021, 08:34
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| | Re: Leaked document: BBC, Reuters participated in covert Propaganda
What's wrong with changing regimes in Russia?
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28.02.2021, 08:45
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Conspiracy Theory on Sunday morning? I thought those shenanigans only belonged to Friday banter, just before folks were able to leave the office for the freaking weekend. | The following 2 users would like to thank jacek for this useful post: | | 
28.02.2021, 08:45
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| | Re: Leaked document: BBC, Reuters participated in covert Propaganda | Quote: | |  | | | What's wrong with changing regimes in Russia? | | | | | Shouldn't it happen organically, from the Russian people themselves?
I think the point here is to show that western media is involved in propaganda. If they are doing it in Russia then what stops them from doing the same elsewhere or even to their own people?
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28.02.2021, 08:47
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| | Re: Leaked document: BBC, Reuters participated in covert Propaganda | Quote: | |  | | | Conspiracy Theory on Sunday morning? I thought those shenanigans only belonged to Friday banter, just before folks were able to leave the office for the freaking weekend.  | | | | | Conspiracy yes. Theory no.
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28.02.2021, 08:48
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| | Re: Leaked document: BBC, Reuters participated in covert Propaganda | Quote: | |  | | | I think the point here is to show that western media is involved in propaganda. If they are doing it in Russia then what stops them from doing the same elsewhere or even to their own people? | | | | | Rupert Murdoch might be able to shed light on this one... | The following 4 users would like to thank greenmount for this useful post: | | 
28.02.2021, 08:58
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| | Re: Leaked document: BBC, Reuters participated in covert Propaganda | Quote: | |  | | | Shouldn't it happen organically, from the Russian people themselves?
I think the point here is to show that western media is involved in propaganda. If they are doing it in Russia then what stops them from doing the same elsewhere or even to their own people? | | | | | But that's known. That's simply "market research and development", no? The abuse of local dissent and senility of old commie leaders in order to expand the Western market? People always knew this.
But positioning it as a conspiracy, is like blaming Starbux and McDs for globalization. Expansion is their definition. Blame the customers. Blame the satelite countries who were bullied into submission and who needed some stimulus and help. Local state secret police had orders to not squish the revolution too much. Putin is different now, he knows better.
I think the minute our own place starts making the right consumer choices that disable this "conspiracy" in the 1st place, then we can start figuring stuff out for the better. But business strategies seem to rule - it's like ordering from Wish instead of buying locally. I think economy is linked to all revolutions. My musician friends are as freelancers pretty screwed at the moment, they will not consume locally. Alibaba it is, wherever the guy himself ended up.
So - before you say CIA, say consumerism. And not selectively, but everywhere. Media just parasited on the market merge between the West and occupied EEs.
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28.02.2021, 20:01
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| | Re: Leaked document: BBC, Reuters participated in covert Propaganda | Quote: | |  | | | I think that media, at all, is primarily about writing whatever sells, or else about presenting the perspective of whomsoever will pay for having that message pushed. In that sense, media = manipulation.
So no, nothing stops "them" from doing the same elsewhere, and in fact, that's how the media works. The opinion that we hear/read is either the chief editor's judgment of what will sell the most copies, or garner the most clicks or views, etc. (and thereby make the most money through advertising), or else it is what the editor has been told to write, by whomever pays, directly or indirectly, to have the news slanted (= make propaganda) to go their way. | | | | | True. But journalism can be responsible and a dignified profession too.
Albeit more often than not is exactly the opposite.
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